James Milner New England Man

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Wed May 12, 2010 1:46 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:I remember being laughed at when I wrote that he was England's best player at the U21 Euros last year, and one to look out for.

Skills and passing are great, but football is about running, stamina and spirit, too. When will the so called 'purists' ever understand that? 'Pure' football without any kind of physical exercise is called Pro Evolution Soccer 2010.

To be fair people are going over the top here.

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Post n°124

Re: James Milner New England Man

by EM Seleção e Selecção Wed May 12, 2010 3:01 pm

Kimbo wrote:

blutgraetsche wrote:I remember being laughed at when I wrote that he was England's best player at the U21 Euros last year, and one to look out for.

Skills and passing are great, but football is about running, stamina and spirit, too. When will the so called 'purists' ever understand that? 'Pure' football without any kind of physical exercise is called Pro Evolution Soccer 2010.

To be fair people are going over the top here.

About Milner?

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Post n°125

Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Wed May 12, 2010 3:24 pm

Could i be talking about Milner? In thread about Milner? Replying to a post about Milner? No, i was talking about Ruel Fox ofcourse.

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Post n°126

Re: James Milner New England Man

by EM Seleção e Selecção Wed May 12, 2010 3:28 pm

Kimbo wrote:Could i be talking about Milner? In thread about Milner? Replying to a post about Milner? No, i was talking about Ruel Fox ofcourse.

I am just waiting for someone to explain why is there a big thread dedicated to Milner?

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Wed May 12, 2010 3:32 pm

Because he has had his best season and he plays for Villa who are seen as the footballing equivalent of a lovable Beagle dog, so it doesn't conflict with any agendas.

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Post n°128

Re: James Milner New England Man

by EM Seleção e Selecção Wed May 12, 2010 3:34 pm

Kimbo wrote:Because he has had his best season and he plays for Villa who are seen as the footballing equivalent of a lovable Beagle dog, so it doesn't conflict with any agendas.

the words Villa(the club) and Football should not be able to spoken in the same sentence.

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Post n°129

Re: James Milner New England Man

by debaser Wed May 12, 2010 3:38 pm

EM La Liga wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Because he has had his best season and he plays for Villa who are seen as the footballing equivalent of a lovable Beagle dog, so it doesn't conflict with any agendas.

the words Villa(the club) and Football should not be able to spoken in the same sentence.

I look forward to the words 'Portugal' and 'Embarrassing Early Exit for Cheats' to being used in the same sentence.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by EM Seleção e Selecção Wed May 12, 2010 3:46 pm

debaser wrote:

EM La Liga wrote:

Kimbo wrote:Because he has had his best season and he plays for Villa who are seen as the footballing equivalent of a lovable Beagle dog, so it doesn't conflict with any agendas.

the words Villa(the club) and Football should not be able to spoken in the same sentence.

I look forward to the words 'Portugal' and 'Embarrassing Early Exit for Cheats' to being used in the same sentence.

The only thing I am looking forward to is Portugal(There is no way in hell Portugal can become WC)sending England home as per usual. santa

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by debaser Wed May 12, 2010 3:49 pm

What combination of diving, injuries, red cards, lucky long range punts and penalties do you plan to use this time? rendeer

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Tweesus Wed May 12, 2010 3:59 pm

We can't face Portugal until the semis....

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Post n°133

Re: James Milner New England Man

by Luis Wed May 12, 2010 4:00 pm

It's a bit stupid how it's all been arranged IMO, should be draws after every round.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Tweesus Wed May 12, 2010 4:04 pm

Luis wrote:It's a bit stupid how it's all been arranged IMO, should be draws after every round.

Not entirely sure how the seeding works but I think they do it this way so that you don't have teams travelling over ridiculous distances between games between the groups, knock outs and quarters.

Agree it would be more interesting to make it random but we've avoided Brazil and Spain until the semis this way Very Happy

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by debaser Wed May 12, 2010 4:06 pm

Luis wrote:It's a bit stupid how it's all been arranged IMO, should be draws after every round.

They can't really because they have to space out the dates so one country doesn't get several days more rest than their opponents.

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Post n°136

Re: James Milner New England Man

by Brian2468 Thu May 13, 2010 2:00 am

I like the notion as we write Capello is working with his squad and is relishing the opportunity of using Milner at right CM and placing Lampard on the left side where he seems to play often with Chelsea knowing that Milner has the energy to cover both sides he may let lampard get up there and do what he does better than any player in an England shirt making the best final pass inside the penalty area finding a goal scorer. Biggrin

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu May 13, 2010 8:48 am

debaser wrote:What combination of diving, injuries, red cards, lucky long range punts and penalties do you plan to use this time?

The usual plan pass,pass,pass make your players chase shadows then it will lead to your defenders going back so deep(Terry marshalls your defence right? Laugh

) they are literally on top of your goalkeeper.

This normally leads to England being pinned back into their own half but this time it will be different there is a killer touch i.e Euro 2000(given a two goal lead and all)

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Brian2468 Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:10 pm

Funny how some people negatively felt about Milner.

Just to add my two pence. Gareth Barry is the single most important player in the England team. He is the link between attack and defence. He is the player Capello has built his team. If he is injured we only have Carrick as a replacement, i.e. we are fucked.

James Milner has never played the holding role, so like a typical english supporter we are going to stick him there in the middle of a world cup.

Its a good thing Capello is the Manager.

Subject: Re: James Milner New England Man Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:19 am
Milner has 0 chance of being a starting player, but yes he can be a utility player on the bench, like Dyer was, and Sinclair, Barmby etc. I don't think it's really worth getting overexcited about. Adam Johnson is probably a more exciting prospect.

I like that Schweinsteiger was converted to a central player.

Beckham, Schneider, Karpin were all very good but they were late 90's early 00's players - you need pace that they and Schweini haven't got to play in a wide position now.

I wish we would do this with Downing who is a very decent passer but lacks pace.

Milner may not of set the world on fire what is clear the players potential is there and many cannot see.

With the WC over can anyone still not see Milner playing a roll in a future England middle ? Maybe not.

After what I have seen Milner and another young ball playing youngster would be a good change going forward. Ale

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:30 pm

I'm sorry, what the gibbons is this all about? Has the situation changed? Has Milner done something amazing that i've missed? I still see him as a squad player.

I don't think Pigclimber and Milner are all that similar, the pig has a better physical presence and is better technically. There are still many players i would pick ahead of him in CM. <Ale>

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Post n°140

Re: James Milner New England Man

by Brian2468 Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:47 pm

Kimbo wrote:I'm sorry, what the gibbons is this all about? Has the situation changed? Has Milner done something amazing that i've missed? I still see him as a squad player.

I don't think Pigclimber and Milner are all that similar, the pig has a better physical presence and is better technically. There are still many players i would pick ahead of him in CM.

He was a starter Bucko!!!!!! Wink

Kimbo right now England are not lucky enough to pick excellent talent we lack it in most areas. For now Milner is a better young player t at least start off with going forward If he keeps playing in the Middle.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:55 pm

2 good crosses in 2 games, so what? Plus he was playing on the wing, not in the middle like you want him to.

Anyway, i'm not sure why you think a point has been proven, we're at the same point in this debate as we were when this thread was started. You say England doesn't have the talent. Do you actually believe that? Are you writing off Rodwell, Huddlestone, O'Hara etc?

You're a strange egg Brian. <Ale>

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Post n°142

Re: James Milner New England Man

by Khadrim Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:56 pm

Kimbo wrote:2 good crosses in 2 games, so what? Plus he was playing on the wing, not in the middle like you want him to.

Anyway, i'm not sure why you think a point has been proven, we're at the same point in this debate as we were when this thread was started.

You say England doesn't have the talent. Do you actually believe that? Are you writing off Rodwell, Huddlestone, O'Hara etc?

~~Huddlestone~~ Cattermole

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:00 pm

Khadrim wrote:

Kimbo wrote:2 good crosses in 2 games, so what? Plus he was playing on the wing, not in the middle like you want him to.

Anyway, i'm not sure why you think a point has been proven, we're at the same point in this debate as we were when this thread was started.

You say England doesn't have the talent. Do you actually believe that? Are you writing off Rodwell, Huddlestone, O'Hara etc?

~~Huddlestone~~ Cattermole

Cattermole wouldn't last 5 minutes in international football, he plays like Gattuso in an alcoholic rage. I still remember him launching himself at Beye and breaking his ankle, Beye was in a totally innocuous position around the halfway line and Cattermole was simply looking to take him out.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Sheffield gunner Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:03 pm

Cattermole is precisely the sort of footballer this country needs to move away from encouraging. Who needs ability or intelligence when you can run around enthusiastically booting more talented players into the air? Rolling Eyes

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Khadrim Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:07 pm

Sheffield gunner wrote:Cattermole is precisely the sort of footballer this country needs to move away from encouraging. Who needs ability or intelligence when you can run around enthusiastically booting more talented players into the air?

Whilst I won't dispute his willingness to lunge in at people it is a myth he can't play football. Also name me one other alternative to Hargreaves in the destroyer role. I can only think of Muamba pale

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Brian2468 Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm

Kimbo wrote:2 good crosses in 2 games, so what? Plus he was playing on the wing, not in the middle like you want him to.

Anyway, i'm not sure why you think a point has been proven, we're at the same point in this debate as we were when this thread was started. You say England doesn't have the talent. Do you actually believe that? Are you writing off Rodwell, Huddlestone, O'Hara etc?

You're a strange egg Brian.

There is talent there like you most coaches and clubs they write them off before they get a start.

Milner in the England side acted the same way Hargreaves did as a fringe player with the EPL stars running the house when he started up. If you watch the games even his teammates treated Milner that way an outsider. A big reason England are crap.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Kimbo Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:14 pm

Khadrim wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Cattermole is precisely the sort of footballer this country needs to move away from encouraging. Who needs ability or intelligence when you can run around enthusiastically booting more talented players into the air?

Whilst I won't dispute his willingness to lunge in at people it is a myth he can't play football. Also name me one other alternative to Hargreaves in the destroyer role. I can only think of Muamba

O'Hara and Reo-Coker are better.

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Tom Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:19 pm

Kimbo wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Cattermole is precisely the sort of footballer this country needs to move away from encouraging. Who needs ability or intelligence when you can run around enthusiastically booting more talented players into the air?

Whilst I won't dispute his willingness to lunge in at people it is a myth he can't play football. Also name me one other alternative to Hargreaves in the destroyer role. I can only think of Muamba

O'Hara and Reo-Coker are better.

O'Hara's Irish is he not?

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Re: James Milner New England Man

by Brian2468 Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:21 pm

MaloudaOntheDanceFloor wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:Cattermole is precisely the sort of footballer this country needs to move away from encouraging. Who needs ability or intelligence when you can run around enthusiastically booting more talented players into the air?

Whilst I won't dispute his willingness to lunge in at people it is a myth he can't play football. Also name me one other alternative to Hargreaves in the destroyer role. I can only think of Muamba

O'Hara and Reo-Coker are better.

O'Hara's Irish is he not?

Thats what I though he was.