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    Post by COTR Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:17 pm

    Nearly broke alonso's ankle there

    Dirty fuckers
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    Post by COTR Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:17 pm

    Should have been down to 9 men
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:18 pm

    Their South American temperament is getting the better of Chile.

    2-0 HT
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    Post by bluenine Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:18 pm

    kas wrote:Stunning goals by Spain, esp. the 2nd one.

    Yes it was the same guy who should have got a yellow anyway. No way was this a foul, I think it was accidental as he was clearly looking the other way. I don't think it makes any difference to the match though, at 2-0 it's game over.

    I am not so sure... a man down is a HUGE disadvantage, specially if goal difference can decide qualification....

    The red card has ruined the game IMO, coz both the goals were against the run of play... Chile were doing well till then... now they don't stand a chance, and depend on Honduras getting some points off the Swiss...


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    Post by L r dd Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:19 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:Their South American temperament is getting the better of Chile.

    2-0 HT

    Why are all South Americans so angry scratch
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:20 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    kas wrote:Stunning goals by Spain, esp. the 2nd one.

    Yes it was the same guy who should have got a yellow anyway. No way was this a foul, I think it was accidental as he was clearly looking the other way. I don't think it makes any difference to the match though, at 2-0 it's game over.

    I am not so sure... a man down is a HUGE disadvantage, specially f goal difference can decide qualification....

    Sure it does
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:21 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Their South American temperament is getting the better of Chile.

    2-0 HT

    Why are all South Americans so angry scratch

    Because we're sick of getting robbed by Euro shites Smile
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:21 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Why are all South Americans so angry scratch

    Dunno. Europe had their big party some sixty years ago, now they can chill a bit.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:22 pm

    Even if it had been intentional, I'm sure most Spanish fans would be pleased to see Torres getting a kicking !

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    Post by fcb Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:27 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    kas wrote:Stunning goals by Spain, esp. the 2nd one.

    Yes it was the same guy who should have got a yellow anyway. No way was this a foul, I think it was accidental as he was clearly looking the other way. I don't think it makes any difference to the match though, at 2-0 it's game over.

    I am not so sure... a man down is a HUGE disadvantage, specially if goal difference can decide qualification....

    The red card has ruined the game IMO, coz both the goals were against the run of play... Chile were doing well till then... now they don't stand a chance, and depend on Honduras getting some points off the Swiss...


    Actually, you're right, I forgot that Chile are relying on goal difference. In that case it does make a difference.


    Don't agree with your 2nd point though. "Red card has ruined the game" is one of the most inaccurate and tired cliches in football.

    First off, a red card is to punish a player who is either playing dirty, or just incompetent at tackling, or cheating. So if someone is sent off, it doesn't ruin the game, it's a reflection that one team was inferior and/or unfair.

    Second, a lot of times it doesn't affect the result. For example, the red card came when the goal had already gone in...do you really see Chile scoring 2 or more goals even with 11 men?

    But yes, if we're just talking about qualification, then it does hurt Chile. Then again, I reckon the decisions have evened out because Ponce should have had 1 red and 2 orange cards by now.


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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:27 pm

    Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).
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    Post by COTR Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:28 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).

    How on earth did they gift Spain the second goal Bubu ?

    Sending off was correct, it just should have happened ten minutes earlier
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:29 pm

    kas wrote:Stunning goals by Spain, esp. the 2nd one.
    .

    scratch Scoring into an empty net is a stunning goal?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:31 pm

    KUYT #6 wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).

    How on earth did they gift Spain the second goal Bubu ?

    Sending off was correct, it just should have happened ten minutes earlier

    They gave the ball away in their own half. Suicidal.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:31 pm

    KUYT #6 wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).

    How on earth did they gift Spain the second goal Bubu ?

    Sending off was correct, it just should have happened ten minutes earlier

    Silly mistake by the defender who lost the ball.
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    Post by Barrilete Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:31 pm

    Well, nice game so far. IMO the ref is a bit too rigorous calling every play with some friction a foul but can't really say he is wrong, just too hasty to call fouls and give cards away.

    Too bad for Chile 'cause their style during the first 20 minutes is something that this Spain side isn't accustomed and even made them hoof the ball believe it or not. Shocked

    Two stupid defensive mistakes by Chile and it's 2-0. That's the way it is against top sides, you can't afford to make mistakes.

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    Post by COTR Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:32 pm

    Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
    KUYT #6 wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).

    How on earth did they gift Spain the second goal Bubu ?

    Sending off was correct, it just should have happened ten minutes earlier

    Silly mistake by the defender who lost the ball.

    This happens 100 times in every game.

    What happened after does not
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    Post by Barrilete Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:33 pm

    Ohh, also Villa's goal was Palermo-esque Very Happy
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:33 pm

    Barrilete wrote:Well, nice game so far. IMO the ref is a bit too rigorous calling every play with some friction a foul but can't really say he is wrong, just too hasty to call fouls and give cards away.

    Too bad for Chile 'cause their style during the first 20 minutes is something that this Spain side isn't accustomed and even made them hoof the ball believe it or not. Shocked

    Two stupid defensive mistakes by Chile and it's 2-0. That's the way it is against top sides, you can't afford to make mistakes.


    Out of interest, do you wish Bielsa had another chance with Argentina at the WC?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:34 pm

    KUYT #6 wrote:
    Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:
    KUYT #6 wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Spain unimpressive, this performance is "typically Italian" but it won't be described that way.

    Chile have lost their heads, and there was always the possiblity they would be a bit naive (they gifted Spain both their goals). Sending off was not correct IMO (accidental).

    How on earth did they gift Spain the second goal Bubu ?

    Sending off was correct, it just should have happened ten minutes earlier

    Silly mistake by the defender who lost the ball.

    This happens 100 times in every game.

    What happened after does not

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    Post by L r dd Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:34 pm

    Fuck sake Chile are making Spain look like England even with 10 men
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    Post by L r dd Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:35 pm

    Oh shit what a goal
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:35 pm

    What a goal! Brilliant! 2-1!

    Looked better than it was, deflected shot.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:35 pm

    Ha! Camera's are decieving
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    Post by COTR Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:36 pm

    Huggggeeeeeee deflection

    Spain will have to wake up again
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:36 pm

    Jammy bastards
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:36 pm

    Switzerland need to win 2-0 now if it stays like this?
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:37 pm

    Looks like a Swiss defender broke his jaw Sad
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    Post by Barrilete Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:37 pm

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Barrilete wrote:Well, nice game so far. IMO the ref is a bit too rigorous calling every play with some friction a foul but can't really say he is wrong, just too hasty to call fouls and give cards away.

    Too bad for Chile 'cause their style during the first 20 minutes is something that this Spain side isn't accustomed and even made them hoof the ball believe it or not. Shocked

    Two stupid defensive mistakes by Chile and it's 2-0. That's the way it is against top sides, you can't afford to make mistakes.


    Out of interest, do you wish Bielsa had another chance with Argentina at the WC?

    not really, but i do like the guy very much.

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    Great goal by Chile...man the swiss really don't deserve to go through
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    Post by Antarion Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:37 pm

    Antarion wrote:Game over


    I said game over Grr
    Why won't they hear?

    Good for the game Smile

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