WC2010 Round of 16 - Spain vs. Portugal

CQ= What an idiot but I expected this!

Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

kas wrote:

stinger wrote:

Six wrote:

kas wrote:Xabi Alonso is a big doubt for the game, so it may become a blessing in disguise for Spain if Del Bosque doesn't force him and plays Cesc instead.

Well, apparently he's going to play Javi Martinez instead so..

Bad news for Portugal too - Deco is expected to be in starting line-up, after his minor hip injury.

That could be a match-losing decision from Queiroz. He'll potentially ruin Portugal's tactic of sitting deep then countering at speed, because he's just not fit enough for the modern game anymore.

He'll try to win the midfield, that's what i think. This could well be the first game of the wc to end on penalties.

If Portugal beat Spain tomorrow for me that's like winning the world cup.

EM Seleção e Selecção wrote:If Portugal beat Spain tomorrow for me that's like winning the world cup.

To me anything less than the semis is a bad WC.

Lusitan wrote:

EM Seleção e Selecção wrote:If Portugal beat Spain tomorrow for me that's like winning the world cup.

To me anything less than the semis is a bad WC.

Are you mad?

Being in the quarters and having the knowledge that England are out,Spain followed them quickly.

Noah and the Bale wrote:Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

They may also try too hard and get burned in the process. I doubt it, but it could well happen

lampiao007 wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

They may also try too hard and get burned in the process. I doubt it, but it could well happen

Spain try hard ?

Unlikely

They are yet to break sweat in this WC and are yet to even receive a yellow card.

It's a tough game to call. Much will depend who he replaces Alonso with.

lampiao007 wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

They may also try too hard and get burned in the process. I doubt it, but it could well happen

KUYT #6 wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

They may also try too hard and get burned in the process. I doubt it, but it could well happen

Spain try hard ?

Unlikely

They are yet to break sweat in this WC and are yet to even receive a yellow card.

It's a tough game to call. Much will depend who he replaces Alonso with.

Switzerland?

KUYT #6 wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:

Noah and the Bale wrote:Looking forward to this tie very much

Spain will want revenge for Portugal dumping them out of Euro2004 I expect.

And I think they will do it.

They may also try too hard and get burned in the process. I doubt it, but it could well happen

Spain try hard ?

Unlikely

They are yet to break sweat in this WC and are yet to even receive a yellow card.

It's a tough game to call. Much will depend who he replaces Alonso with.

No matter how many times you say this, it doesn't make it true.

Whatever happens, as a neutral I hope both sides show what they can do with the ball. Plenty of talent on both teams, would be a shame if it is marred by play acting and diving, which both sides are capable of too.

I'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction:

Spain 3 Portugal 1

Sounds very good prediction. It all depends of who scores 1st

Portugal went out of the group, so nothing to loose now. They are not favorites for anything, and the underdog tag always suited us nicely.

That and Spain has not beaten Portugal on a competitive match in 30 years may prove to be a burden to Nuestros Hermanos

We play and defend like a team we could just win this.

We will get chances on the counter attack if Superman plays like he did against the Koreans(looked for a better placed team mate instead of shooting)we could score a few but what's the chances of that happening.


Superman is going to be coming up against Spain so expect alot of tricks in the wrong areas and alot of shooting but I hope its the Superman who puts the team before his own personal glory.

lampiao007 wrote:Sounds very good prediction. It all depends of who scores 1st

Portugal went out of the group, so nothing to loose now. They are not favorites for anything, and the underdog tag always suited us nicely.

That and Spain has not beaten Portugal on a competitive match in 30 years may prove to be a burden to Nuestros Hermanos

I'll stick to my 0-0 FT prediction, with lot's of fight on the midfield and quite a few cards......

Not what i wish but i do not believe CQ will play to win. He plays not to loose but i hope i'm wrong.

lampiao007 wrote:Sounds very good prediction. It all depends of who scores 1st

Portugal went out of the group, so nothing to loose now. They are not favorites for anything, and the underdog tag always suited us nicely.

That and Spain has not beaten Portugal on a competitive match in 30 years may prove to be a burden to Nuestros Hermanos

Portugal have a very real chance if they play like they did against North Korea.

That statement might sound obvious, and also forgetting that Spain are a very different side to South Korea, but having watched Chile give Spain a fright the other night, if Portugal run at Spain like they did against the Koreans (who I'm still convinced aren't a bad side - Portugal just made them look bad), playing at that level of tempo and accuracy in the passing, you have every chance. Spain love to slow the game down and play it at their own pace from what I've seen of them. They looked vulnerable by Chile's speed and accuracy on the ball.

Incidentally, how big is this game in Portugal/Spain?

Do you view each other as respected rivals given the obvious close ties between the countries, or is there more needle / dislike thrown in there too?

Noah and the Bale wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:Sounds very good prediction. It all depends of who scores 1st

Portugal went out of the group, so nothing to loose now. They are not favorites for anything, and the underdog tag always suited us nicely.

That and Spain has not beaten Portugal on a competitive match in 30 years may prove to be a burden to Nuestros Hermanos

Portugal have a very real chance if they play like they did against North Korea.

That statement might sound obvious, and also forgetting that Spain are a very different side to South Korea, but having watched Chile give Spain a fright the other night, if Portugal run at Spain like they did against the Koreans (who I'm still convinced aren't a bad side - Portugal just made them look bad), playing at that level of tempo and accuracy in the passing, you have every chance. Spain love to slow the game down and play it at their own pace from what I've seen of them. They looked vulnerable by Chile's speed and accuracy on the ball.

Incidentally, how big is this game in Portugal/Spain?

Do you view each other as respected rivals given the obvious close ties between the countries, or is there more needle / dislike thrown in there too?

Let's say that a few centuries of fighting made it interesting...

But from your question one could think you were U.S.American...

I don't think their is a rivalry. TBH we get along with all of European neighbours.

ohhh, galera de Portugal, vou torcer por voces, mas se der 20 do primeiro tempo e eu ver aquela retranca miseravel que voces jogaram contra o Brasil eu mudo pra Espanha.


Portugal tem condições de brigar como iguais, tem time pra vencer e precisa de coragem. Time retranqueiro e covarde nao dá.

Juligen wrote:ohhh, galera de Portugal, vou torcer por voces, mas se der 20 do primeiro tempo e eu ver aquela retranca miseravel que voces jogaram contra o Brasil eu mudo pra Espanha.


Portugal tem condições de brigar como iguais, tem time pra vencer e precisa de coragem. Time retranqueiro e covarde nao dá.

LOL.. igual á retranca que vocês mostraram, e usaram também com o Chile, mas eu não mudei de canal, vi até ao fim e cada golo = 2 x

CQ e Dunga = mesma escola (Dunga tem é mais "mão de obra" disponível).


Mas ta certo, se não for nossa, será vossa.

Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

lampiao007 wrote:Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

Tinha de haver um lampião a meter o nome do clubinho de bairro no meio da conversa....

Mas que o Ramirez é bom, isso é...

Lusitan wrote:

Juligen wrote:ohhh, galera de Portugal, vou torcer por voces, mas se der 20 do primeiro tempo e eu ver aquela retranca miseravel que voces jogaram contra o Brasil eu mudo pra Espanha.


Portugal tem condições de brigar como iguais, tem time pra vencer e precisa de coragem. Time retranqueiro e covarde nao dá.

LOL.. igual á retranca que vocês mostraram, e usaram também com o Chile, mas eu não mudei de canal, vi até ao fim e cada golo = 2 x

CQ e Dunga = mesma escola (Dunga tem é mais "mão de obra" disponível).

fala sério lusitan.

Voces colocaram 10 jogadores atras, só tinham o Cristiano la na frente, a gente demora a marcar, mas pelo amor de Deus, quando foi a ultima vez que o Brasil colocou dez homens na defesa?????????????????

Hoje tinhamos Robinho, Fabiano e Kaka.

Tô dizendo, voces tem time pra ganhar. Oh Meireles é bom, ta fazendo uma boa copa, o Cristiano é estrela, se atacar voces levam perigo. Deixa o Deco na reserva, o Tiago tá melhor e boa sorte

Lusitan wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

Tinha de haver um lampião a meter o nome do clubinho de bairro no meio da conversa....

Mas que o Ramirez é bom, isso é...

Por falar em clubinho, onde andava o M Fernandes?

Se ate o Tello e o Contreras tem lugar na selecao do Chile....

lampiao007 wrote:

Lusitan wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

Tinha de haver um lampião a meter o nome do clubinho de bairro no meio da conversa....

Mas que o Ramirez é bom, isso é...

Por falar em clubinho, onde andava o M Fernandes?

Se ate o Tello e o Contreras tem lugar na selecao do Chile....

Tava no banco a ser poupado para o Campeonato.
Percebe-se agora porque perderam....

Juligen wrote:

Lusitan wrote:

Juligen wrote:ohhh, galera de Portugal, vou torcer por voces, mas se der 20 do primeiro tempo e eu ver aquela retranca miseravel que voces jogaram contra o Brasil eu mudo pra Espanha.


Portugal tem condições de brigar como iguais, tem time pra vencer e precisa de coragem. Time retranqueiro e covarde nao dá.

LOL.. igual á retranca que vocês mostraram, e usaram também com o Chile, mas eu não mudei de canal, vi até ao fim e cada golo = 2 x

CQ e Dunga = mesma escola (Dunga tem é mais "mão de obra" disponível).

fala sério lusitan.

Voces colocaram 10 jogadores atras, só tinham o Cristiano la na frente, a gente demora a marcar, mas pelo amor de Deus, quando foi a ultima vez que o Brasil colocou dez homens na defesa?????????????????

Hoje tinhamos Robinho, Fabiano e Kaka.

Tô dizendo, voces tem time pra ganhar. Oh Meireles é bom, ta fazendo uma boa copa, o Cristiano é estrela, se atacar voces levam perigo. Deixa o Deco na reserva, o Tiago tá melhor e boa sorte

Concordo que a equipe tava defensiva, mas vocês não arriscaram nadinha, tavam tão defensivos quanto nós.

No entanto é verdade que o CQ enerva ao desperdiçar talento como o que la tem. Eu até penso que ele vai tentar defender ganhando a luta a meio-campo e este pode ser o primeiro jogo a penaltis. E isso vai ser frustrante, mais ainda do que foi o jogo com a Costa do Marfim, onde vimos que bastava acelerar e eles tremiam e o CQ teimou em não deixar a equipe soltar-se.

World Cup 2010: Fernando Torres turning into the Spanish Emile Heskey

The Spain forward is happy to create space and chances for his country's main striker rather than lead the attack

Sid Lowe
guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 June 2010 20.48 BST

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jun/28/world-cup-2010-fernando-torres-spain

Noah and the Bale wrote:Whatever happens, as a neutral I hope both sides show what they can do with the ball. Plenty of talent on both teams, would be a shame if it is marred by play acting and diving, which both sides are capable of too.

I'm going to stick my neck out and make a prediction:

Spain 3 Portugal 1

You mean this kind of shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-r__wG_RA

Lusitan wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

Tinha de haver um lampião a meter o nome do clubinho de bairro no meio da conversa....

Mas que o Ramirez é bom, isso é...

O Ramires sempre foi muito bom. O problema é que o Dunga achava que ele tinha que jogar mais avançado, quase como um meia. Ele é muito melhor jogando como segundo volante, pois marca bem, sabe sair jogando e ainda surpreende no ataque. Pena que está suspenso.

Formerly known as sheva7 wrote:

Lusitan wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:Com o Prof Pardal ao leme e o Lampadinha (Deco) provavelmente a titular, nao vai dar muito nao.

P.S - Gostou do jogo do Ramirez? O menino e bom de bola. Melhor contratacao do Benfica nos ultimos anos.

Tinha de haver um lampião a meter o nome do clubinho de bairro no meio da conversa....

Mas que o Ramirez é bom, isso é...

O Ramires sempre foi muito bom. O problema é que o Dunga achava que ele tinha que jogar mais avançado, quase como um meia. Ele é muito melhor jogando como segundo volante, pois marca bem, sabe sair jogando e ainda surpreende no ataque. Pena que está suspenso.

Es verdad que Ramires siempre fue buen jugador. Lo vi en Cruzeiro como enganchaba el juego por la banda derecha en Copa Libertadores. Muy buen jogador y puede crecer más.