blutgraetsche wrote:I wouldn't say that I "support" Bayern though. But it's true that many Germans want to see German clubs do well in Europe, even rival clubs. At the end of the day, it's to the benefit of the league and hence their own clubs, as those UEFA coefficient points determine the number of CL and EL places the league has.
Another reason, probably the more important one, is mentality. In Germany, clubs are of course important, but there is a sense of "responsibility" for the bigger picture, for German football as a whole, the national team in particular, which has a very important standing, in contrast to England, for example, where the league is a lot more powerful and important and couldn't care less about their national team.
I'm not just a Werder supporter, I also support the national team and hence have a strong interest in German internationals doing well. Bayern tend to hoard a good number of the best ones, unfortunately. I'd like to see them spread more evenly amongst Bundesliga clubs, but what can you do, that's modern football.
I understand, and it makes sense. But it doesn't happen in Brazil. Here, your club comes high above the national team and national football. If Atlético play against Bayern in December, all their Brazilian rivals will support Bayern for sure.
If a local team from São Paulo, for instance, is playing against a foreign team and the foreign team scores in a Libertadores game, you hear firecracks in the sky as if a local team had scored (firecracks of the rivals, obviously).
When Corinthians played against Boca last year in the final, many rival groups met in bars to watch the game and cheer for Boca.
If you ask Brazilian football fans to choose between their club winning Libertadores (or even the Brazilian league) and Brazil winning the WC, I'm sure the great majoroty would choose the club (me included).