Ronaldo=Fabregas>>>>>>>Rooney, Robinho,

Rabbit wrote:@Ziltoid,

You know Z, one of the first things that came to mind when I was watching the game this afternoon and Rooney gave the penalty away was your post about him tracking back too much, coming too deep, trying to do everything and not sticking to his proper role.

Saying that, it wasn't a penalty, because it was a soft foul, the player wasn't in the area and even if he was the foul did not prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity.

The second one was classic Robinson. Why this guy is still playing for Spurs, let alone England, is a mystery to me.

Rez wrote:If Rooney didnt track back the player would have been through on goal, where was Lescott the left back and Joe Cole the left midfielder?

If they were playing in their proper positions, Rooney wouldnt have been in that situation. If the ref had done his job properly and given a freekick on the edge of the area (instead of a penalty) and everyone would be talking about how Rooney foiled a Russian goal scoring situation.

Rez wrote:

Rabbit wrote:@Ziltoid,

You know Z, one of the first things that came to mind when I was watching the game this afternoon and Rooney gave the penalty away was your post about him tracking back too much, coming too deep, trying to do everything and not sticking to his proper role.

Saying that, it wasn't a penalty, because it was a soft foul, the player wasn't in the area and even if he was the foul did not prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity.

The second one was classic Robinson. Why this guy is still playing for Spurs, let alone England, is a mystery to me.

If Rooney didnt track back the player would have been through on goal, where was Lescott the left back and Joe Cole the left midfielder?

If they were playing in their proper positions, Rooney wouldnt have been in that situation. If the ref had done his job properly and given a freekick on the edge of the area (instead of a penalty) and everyone would be talking about how Rooney foiled a Russian goal scoring situation.

Rabbit wrote:

Rez wrote:

Rabbit wrote:@Ziltoid,

You know Z, one of the first things that came to mind when I was watching the game this afternoon and Rooney gave the penalty away was your post about him tracking back too much, coming too deep, trying to do everything and not sticking to his proper role.

Saying that, it wasn't a penalty, because it was a soft foul, the player wasn't in the area and even if he was the foul did not prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity.

The second one was classic Robinson. Why this guy is still playing for Spurs, let alone England, is a mystery to me.

If Rooney didnt track back the player would have been through on goal, where was Lescott the left back and Joe Cole the left midfielder?

Who cares? A striker who cannot tackle shouldn't be on the edge of his own penalty area. If Rooney hadn't been there, maybe Lescott and Cole wouldn't have gone walkabout.

If they were playing in their proper positions, Rooney wouldnt have been in that situation. If the ref had done his job properly and given a freekick on the edge of the area (instead of a penalty) and everyone would be talking about how Rooney foiled a Russian goal scoring situation.

Come off it, it was a foul, he was in the wrong place. This is a fair criticism of him. He's not there to cover for Lescott's and Cole's defensive failings. In trying to do so, he was partly responsible for costing England the game. The player was hardly clean through on goal, there was no need to foul him at all.

S4P wrote:

Rez wrote:If Rooney didnt track back the player would have been through on goal, where was Lescott the left back and Joe Cole the left midfielder?

If they were playing in their proper positions, Rooney wouldnt have been in that situation. If the ref had done his job properly and given a freekick on the edge of the area (instead of a penalty) and everyone would be talking about how Rooney foiled a Russian goal scoring situation.

Looking at it again, it seems that both players were covering the CM area. You then have to ask 2 questions: 1) Where the f@ck were Gerrard & Barry? and 2) Why did they both need to cover the area? Surely it should have been J Cole (or Rooney) doing the covering.

Rez wrote:
Just watched the incident again and he was covering for Joe Cole who lost the ball further up field and was strolling back central of the pitch, just past the halfway line.

Rabbit wrote:Hold your horses, there's another way to blame Gerrard. Shortly before that goal, Gerrard lost the ball in the centre circle and simply turned and watched for a couple of seconds as the player who'd taken it off him raced away towards goal, before casually and reluctantly jogging back in a token effort to make up for his mistake.

Cole was simply following the example of the senior midfielder in the team.

rza wrote:This topic seems more interesting by the matchdays. Robinho who we all seriously doubted if he will get back to his best, seems to be on the form of his life.

As it stands, Cesc=Ronaldo=Robinho=>Rooney.

I wonder what this means for Ronaldo's chances of winning major awards in the future if things stay as they are? He will probably regret being owned by Kaka in those two matches, coz if Robinho plays like he did this past weekend then there's no way Ronaldo will win Ballon D'Or while playing in EPL.

I should have included Messi in this topic.

rza wrote:This topic seems more interesting by the matchdays. Robinho who we all seriously doubted if he will get back to his best, seems to be on the form of his life.

As it stands, Cesc=Ronaldo=Robinho=>Rooney.

I wonder what this means for Ronaldo's chances of winning major awards in the future if things stay as they are? He will probably regret being owned by Kaka in those two matches, coz if Robinho plays like he did this past weekend then there's no way Ronaldo will win Ballon D'Or while playing in EPL.

I should have included Messi in this topic.

rza wrote:This topic seems more interesting by the matchdays. Robinho who we all seriously doubted if he will get back to his best, seems to be on the form of his life.

As it stands, Cesc=Ronaldo=Robinho=>Rooney.

I wonder what this means for Ronaldo's chances of winning major awards in the future if things stay as they are? He will probably regret being owned by Kaka in those two matches, coz if Robinho plays like he did this past weekend then there's no way Ronaldo will win Ballon D'Or while playing in EPL.

I should have included Messi in this topic.

Calidad wrote:In terms of ability Robinho is head and shoulders over the other three.

Tweedle wrote:Robinho has never impressed me that much. Haven't seen much of him this season, so maybe that's changed, but he always used to frustrate me.

Tweedle wrote:

rza wrote:This topic seems more interesting by the matchdays. Robinho who we all seriously doubted if he will get back to his best, seems to be on the form of his life.

As it stands, Cesc=Ronaldo=Robinho=>Rooney.

I wonder what this means for Ronaldo's chances of winning major awards in the future if things stay as they are? He will probably regret being owned by Kaka in those two matches, coz if Robinho plays like he did this past weekend then there's no way Ronaldo will win Ballon D'Or while playing in EPL.

I should have included Messi in this topic.

What the hell are you talking about?

THIS season, Rooney has been better than Ronaldo! He has something like 10 goals in 10 games (or 9 in 9, can't remember)

Robinho isn't ANYWHERE near the level of the other three.

Spankeltoe wrote:How many games is it since the Condom incident?

Rooney scored in both his CL games, both his International games and 5 in 5 league games.

Mexicanbecks wrote:

Spankeltoe wrote:How many games is it since the Condom incident?

Rooney scored in both his CL games, both his International games and 5 in 5 league games.

I think it's something like 6 goals and 4 assists in 8 games? i could be wrong, but its something very close to that

The Real Martin Troll wrote:Whats the condom incident?

shazlx wrote:

Calidad wrote:In terms of ability Robinho is head and shoulders over the other three.

Ability to what?
Pass? Rooney and cesc are better
Shoot? Rooney and cesc are better
Finish? Ronaldo and Rooney are better
Header? Ronaldo and Rooney are better
Control and midfield? cesc is better
Vision? probably equal to cesc and Rooney
Hold the ball up? Rooney and Ronaldo are better
Dribble? Close call with Ronaldo

Skill? yes robinho is better
Ball manipulation? yes Robinho is better

Diving? close with Ronaldo.