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    Drogba Vs Henry

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    Total Votes: 45
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    Post by GR Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:25 pm

    Keano Is God wrote:should we have a poll?
    at peak who was better- scholes or gerrard?

    fine go ahead... do one in 606 if u can so we see more votes
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:26 pm

    The Grim Reaper wrote:
    Keano Is God wrote:should we have a poll?
    at peak who was better- scholes or gerrard?

    fine go ahead... do one in 606 if u can so we see more votes

    Are you serious?

    606 is full of ten year olds who probably can't even remember scholes at his peak
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    Post by Kevin Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:27 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:Kevin, football is after all about winning things.

    If we talk about all round games then Henry isn't as good as Drogba

    I know, it was a joke as arsenal fans are always accused of using statistics.
    Using goals to judge a striker by seems to be an interesting idea...
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    Post by GR Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:28 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:
    The Grim Reaper wrote:
    Keano Is God wrote:should we have a poll?
    at peak who was better- scholes or gerrard?

    fine go ahead... do one in 606 if u can so we see more votes

    Are you serious?

    606 is full of ten year olds who probably can't even remember scholes at his peak


    Its Saturday......kids are probably out shopping with their mums or in McDonalds - its a good time to start polls at this time of the day Laughing
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:30 pm

    You can run a poll here if you like - it'll end out A Liverpool V Man Utd War Very Happy
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    Post by Keano Is God Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:36 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:You can run a poll here if you like - it'll end out A Liverpool V Man Utd War Very Happy
    shouldnt have to be
    how about no liverpool or man u players allowed to vote?
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:38 pm

    Keano Is God wrote:
    Tweedledum wrote:You can run a poll here if you like - it'll end out A Liverpool V Man Utd War Very Happy
    shouldnt have to be
    how about no liverpool or man u players allowed to vote?

    There is no wat we could control that - I suppose you should read what people write and only take account of what the neutrals say ok
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    Post by Football Genius Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:49 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:Drogba, obviously. More all-round game (i.e. can actually score headers that aren't open goals, can actually go shoulder to shoulder with a centrehalf without howling like a ninny and diving to the ground, can actually have a good game without scoring a goal).


    Henry has been the most overrated player in this country for years. I heard a commentator on the radio say that he'd pay to watch Henry just running. I also remember Jonathan Pierce wanking off and saying 'only Henry would do such a thing' when he'd hit the bar from 20 yards, something I've seen almost every player in the Premiership do at some point.

    Henry is a one-dimensional player. Great on the deck in loads of space, but when it gets cramped, physical, when there's no space in behind the defence and so on, he's virtually useless Thats simply not true, just one example of this is the goal he scored against Manchester United from the edge of the box, where he had his back to the goal took the ball on the spin and volley'd it home

    Disagree almost entirely, what tripe. Top goalscorer of the English Premiership for the last 4 seasons, is the 4th all time leading goal scorer in the champions league with over 40 goals, an International goal scoring record of 1 in 2. And despite urban myth doesn't choke on big occassions, has scored against the likes of Manchester United, Inter Milan and Real Madrid.

    What more can a player do to prove himself...
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:11 pm

    Henry.
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    Post by Saintsar Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:12 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    saintgoingmarching wrote:Drogba, obviously. More all-round game (i.e. can actually score headers that aren't open goals, can actually go shoulder to shoulder with a centrehalf without howling like a ninny and diving to the ground, can actually have a good game without scoring a goal).


    Henry has been the most overrated player in this country for years. I heard a commentator on the radio say that he'd pay to watch Henry just running. I also remember Jonathan Pierce wanking off and saying 'only Henry would do such a thing' when he'd hit the bar from 20 yards, something I've seen almost every player in the Premiership do at some point.

    Henry is a one-dimensional player. Great on the deck in loads of space, but when it gets cramped, physical, when there's no space in behind the defence and so on, he's virtually useless Thats simply not true, just one example of this is the goal he scored against Manchester United from the edge of the box, where he had his back to the goal took the ball on the spin and volley'd it home

    Disagree almost entirely, what tripe.

    Doesn't refute a word I said.

    Top goalscorer of the English Premiership for the last 4 seasons,

    Like Shearer in his prime, yet I wouldn't call him as good as Drogba.

    is the 4th all time leading goal scorer in the champions league with over 40 goals, an International goal scoring record of 1 in 2. And despite urban myth doesn't choke on big occassions, has scored against the likes of Manchester United, Inter Milan and Real Madrid.

    Yet has played in three world cups without ever dominating the tournament. His ratio (goals/games) in Europe isn't particularly impressive, thus indicating that his position of 4th in the all time list is primarily due to playing lots and lots of games rather than because he's particularly prolific.

    What more can a player do to prove himself...

    1) Play well in games against teams who actually take him on - most Premiership teams are headless chickens, they rush up the field to 'get in the faces' of Arsenal, then when Arsenal move it forward they run back to their own goal, thus giving Henry loads of time and space. When teams sit deep and Henry actually has to dribble past them, he's nowhere near as effective. I could name 20 better dribblers than Henry off the top of my head.

    2) Dominate a World Cup - first one he didn't even make the final, second one he got sent off for a ridiculous challenge, third one he fannied about and cheated, including a shameful dive against the Spanish to try to get Puyol sent off as Henry was still bitter about the CL final.

    3) Be able to take losing with grace, rather than arrogant sulking.
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:34 pm

    Drogba.

    I think he's probably the only striker in the world with more attributes than Henry.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:35 pm

    Henry>Drogba
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:39 pm

    Messiah wrote:Drogba>Henry>Eto'o

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    Post by Football Genius Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:49 pm

    "Like Shearer in his prime, yet I wouldn't call him as good as Drogba."

    That statement lost you the arguement...

    You obviously have some intelligence Saints, but just re-read what you've written, then think about the critism's you've made of Henry then put those to Drogba, you've lacked objectivity in your arguement and reads more like 'Henry bashing'

    They are both strikers, strikers ultimately are judged on goals, Henry pisses all over Drogba in that department, despite Drogba's recent 'form'
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:51 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Messiah wrote:Drogba>Henry>Eto'o

    ok Wink

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    Post by robert Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:41 pm

    When Drogba plays like this for 4 seasons in a row then maybe I might just put him up to Henry's level, for now though, this poll is a joke.
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:57 pm

    So much bias in this its untrue.

    So far its Chelsea and Saints + a few other people with agendas (probably obi in a bit) verses everyone else
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:01 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:Like Shearer in his prime, yet I wouldn't call him as good as Drogba.
    Laugh Doh

    I thought this thread might be a joke. Drogba is in form, Henry isn't..... that's it. Give me an inform Henry over an inform Drogba anyday. And that's coming from an admirer of DD. Bubbly
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    Post by L r d Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:01 pm

    I voted Henry, however Drogba is much better
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    Post by Kevin Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:12 pm

    l r d wrote:I voted Henry, however Drogba is much better

    WTF...
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    Post by Football Genius Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:13 pm

    l r d wrote:I voted Henry, however Drogba is much better

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    Post by debaser Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:07 pm

    obviously both are great, in the top 5 in the world but henry has the edge for me - his goalscoring record speaks for itself. they'd make a killer partnership.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:09 pm

    Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh @ saints and lrd

    won't waste my time adding any thing to that.
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:16 pm

    Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry)

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:40 pm

    As much as I'd love to say Drogba, because I far prefer him - it's Chairwee - small pitch or not.

    I do believe that when both are past 30, Drogba will age far better. I think he's a better all-round player, but Onree has been the best player in the country for 3 or so seasons... though Drogba has been much better this season.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:19 pm

    S4P wrote:Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry) Rubbish - he's better than Henry in that respect.

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing are you serious ?!?
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
    If he has space to push and run


    I love the way that people talk about Drogba as if he's only been a good player from August onwards - this is his 4th very good season in a row.

    Drogba's ability to motivate others has been overlooked too.

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    Drogba without question.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:21 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    S4P wrote:Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry) Rubbish - he's better than Henry in that respect.

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing are you serious ?!?
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
    If he has space to push and run


    I love the way that people talk about Drogba as if he's only been a good player from August onwards - this is his 4th very good season in a row.

    Drogba's ability to motivate others has been overlooked too.

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    Drogba without question.

    What do u base that on? uefa cup final when Ayala had him in his pockets all evening?
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:26 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    S4P wrote:Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry) Rubbish - he's better than Henry in that respect.

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing are you serious ?!?
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
    If he has space to push and run


    I love the way that people talk about Drogba as if he's only been a good player from August onwards - this is his 4th very good season in a row.

    Drogba's ability to motivate others has been overlooked too.

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    Drogba without question.

    Agreed Pierre. Although I had to try and be fair when doing the comparisons. I said a long time ago, when Hansen, 90% of 606 and co were saying that Drogba is shit, that he is one of the best strikers in the world, and if he could add goals to his came, he'd be the best, no doubt.

    He just lacked composure in previous seasons at Chelsea. He'd create similar chances to the ones he makes for himself now, but sky them or miscontrol etc. This season he looks the perfect player.
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:27 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    S4P wrote:Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry) Rubbish - he's better than Henry in that respect.

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing are you serious ?!?
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
    If he has space to push and run


    I love the way that people talk about Drogba as if he's only been a good player from August onwards - this is his 4th very good season in a row.

    Drogba's ability to motivate others has been overlooked too.

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    Drogba without question.

    What do u base that on? uefa cup final when Ayala had him in his pockets all evening?

    He completely raped Jose Mourinho's Porto team (and Liverpool and Newcastle - although Newcastle's defence was of course very shaky)
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:52 pm

    I hate all the Henry bashing on this message board. Agendas. I agree Henry is overrated, he's certainly not in the top 5 best players in the world but you people make out like he isn't a top class player and that's not right.

    He has alot of talent. He's scored some really good goals in his career. As for his current form, big deal, every player goes through crappy phases.

    He would be in my top 10 Premiership players for sure (on talent).

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