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    Drogba Vs Henry

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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:00 pm

    S4P wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    S4P wrote:Drogba's assets:

    Pace
    Power
    Finishing (lately)
    Defensively excellent
    Dominant in the air
    Can go past players
    Can use either foot
    Fantastic instincts
    Brilliant at setting other players up (though not quite as good as Henry) Rubbish - he's better than Henry in that respect.

    Henry's assets:

    Pace
    Finishing are you serious ?!?
    Can use either foot
    Brilliant instincts
    Brilliant at playing others in
    Can go past players with ease
    If he has space to push and run


    I love the way that people talk about Drogba as if he's only been a good player from August onwards - this is his 4th very good season in a row.

    Drogba's ability to motivate others has been overlooked too.

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    Drogba without question.

    What do u base that on? uefa cup final when Ayala had him in his pockets all evening?

    He completely raped Jose Mourinho's Porto team (and Liverpool and Newcastle - although Newcastle's defence was of course very shaky)

    I was responding to this from pierre:

    Ask yourself honestly - you've got the cup final to end all cup final's approaching, everything at stake and you're up against the world best defenders playing in a very tight system - who would you pick ?

    henry has raped better teams than porto and newcastle in europe.
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    Post by L r d Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:52 pm

    Owen Thomas wrote:he's certainly not in the top 5 best players in the world.

    This is how I started out... But then AGooner spent 3 days debating it with me and insulting Riquelme.

    There's so few Arsenal fans who are willing to accept that opinion that you have to come across as anti-Henry half the time to support your own views.

    Pandev > Henry.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:58 pm

    Robbie Keane > Henry.

    Keane has a 100% strike-rate in Knockout games in the World Cup - beat that! Razz
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:10 pm

    although i love to see henry getting beat down in this tread i think some of you guys are being too hard on the man
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    Post by S4P Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:19 pm

    It's true though, what some of the posters are saying.

    As good as Henry is, he often needs a lot of space to really spark.

    Drogba, as you've seen, is brilliant even in the narrowest of spaces.
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    Post by Guest Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:21 pm

    I'll give it to drogba at the end of the season but not yet.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:28 pm

    Hahaha this thread is getting funnier Laugh please guys continue posting.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:39 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFKBIuP0-Pk

    The song in the complimation is class! Very Happy
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    Post by COTR Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:35 pm

    S4P wrote:It's true though, what some of the posters are saying.

    As good as Henry is, he often needs a lot of space to really spark.

    Drogba, as you've seen, is brilliant even in the narrowest of spaces.
    yes but give him a wide open space and too much time and he'll often end up looking like a clown.. this is the difference Wink
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:05 am

    Agooner wrote:Hahaha this thread is getting funnier Laugh please guys continue posting.


    You see, the sign of a desperate argument is when the arguer resorts to implying that they are above all of this, even though their comment adds nothing to the discussion.


    On aerial ability alone I'd give it to Drogba. But aside from that, there's the small issue of Drogba's World Cup being epitomised by this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDhOzDdxphE
    and Henry's being epitomised by this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuazzL28bxc

    Henry played in two finals this year, and went missing in both of them.
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    Post by L r d Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:59 am

    He wasnt good in the world cup, but he was very good in the final saint.
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    Post by Rosicky Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:02 am

    well 19 votes for henry and 8 for droggers, tells u all u need to kno Wink
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    Post by A & K Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:21 am

    Henry eventhough right now Drogba>Henry, but not for long
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:58 am

    kingrosicky wrote:well 19 votes for henry and 8 for droggers, tells u all u need to kno Wink

    Yet again, the Arsenal stat machines leap to Henry's defence.

    Tell me, what did you make of the shameful and spiteful dive by Henry to try to get Puyol sent off on the biggest football stage of all? You see, the very best players don't do such things in the biggest games. Henry cared more about revenge than about setting a good example as one of the most high-profile players, or about the rules.

    This is, to me, a far worse offence that Zidane's headbutt, because it is so dishonest.


    lrd wrote:He wasnt good in the world cup, but he was very good in the final saint.

    I don't remember him doing very much in the final after Zidane got sent off. Maybe we were 'watching different games'...
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    Post by A & K Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:16 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:Robbie Keane > Henry.

    Keane has a 100% strike-rate in Knockout games in the World Cup - beat that! Razz

    Yes, right Evil or Very Mad
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    Post by Kevin Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:43 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    kingrosicky wrote:well 19 votes for henry and 8 for droggers, tells u all u need to kno Wink

    Yet again, the Arsenal stat machines leap to Henry's defence.

    Tell me, what did you make of the shameful and spiteful dive by Henry to try to get Puyol sent off on the biggest football stage of all? You see, the very best players don't do such things in the biggest games. Henry cared more about revenge than about setting a good example as one of the most high-profile players, or about the rules.
    This is, to me, a far worse offence that Zidane's headbutt, because it is so dishonest.


    lrd wrote:He wasnt good in the world cup, but he was very good in the final saint.

    I don't remember him doing very much in the final after Zidane got sent off. Maybe we were 'watching different games'...

    he dove to try and get Puyol sent off. Correct. But are we really, seriously using Henrys sportsmanship as an example that Drogba is better than him.
    Drogba being a player who has not only dove on countless occasions but admitted to do so so he can trick the ref. The player who continously falls over from innocuous challenges to waste time. The player who was getting booed from his own fans due to his antics. That says quite a lot doesnt it? Pot. Kettle.Black.
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    Post by Kevin Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:44 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:Robbie Keane > Henry.

    Keane has a 100% strike-rate in Knockout games in the World Cup - beat that! Razz

    Typical spurs fan, using statistics to back up their point. Wink
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:51 pm

    Kevin wrote:
    he dove to try and get Puyol sent off. Correct. But are we really, seriously using Henrys sportsmanship as an example that Drogba is better than him.
    Drogba being a player who has not only dove on countless occasions but admitted to do so so he can trick the ref. The player who continously falls over from innocuous challenges to waste time. The player who was getting booed from his own fans due to his antics. That says quite a lot doesnt it? Pot. Kettle.Black.


    Hardly. Drogba dives - almost all players dive, including Henry. Henry used the world's biggest football stage to try to get revenge for his own inability to finish in the CL final. Huge difference. One is merely cheating like most/all top players cheat. The other is a ridiculously arrogant and stupid type of cheating. Only Henry and a handful of others are as sly and snide.
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    Post by waft the Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:26 pm

    Robbie Keane is a better player than henry. Far better, in fact. When will people demand footballers are brought back into the game to save it from the atheletes that have been killing it for a decade?
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:41 pm

    waft the hapless youth wrote:Robbie Keane is a better player than henry. Far better, in fact. When will people demand footballers are brought back into the game to save it from the atheletes that have been killing it for a decade?

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    Post by The Pröfessör Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:43 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    kingrosicky wrote:well 19 votes for henry and 8 for droggers, tells u all u need to kno Wink

    Yet again, the Arsenal stat machines leap to Henry's defence.

    Tell me, what did you make of the shameful and spiteful dive by Henry to try to get Puyol sent off on the biggest football stage of all? You see, the very best players don't do such things in the biggest games. Henry cared more about revenge than about setting a good example as one of the most high-profile players, or about the rules.

    This is, to me, a far worse offence that Zidane's headbutt, because it is so dishonest.


    lrd wrote:He wasnt good in the world cup, but he was very good in the final saint.

    I don't remember him doing very much in the final after Zidane got sent off. Maybe we were 'watching different games'...


    gary lineker. cameroun.


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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:45 pm

    Lineker never dived!
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:48 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Lineker never dived!

    yes he's english.

    "English never dive". ok
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    Post by waft the Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:51 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    waft the hapless youth wrote:Robbie Keane is a better player than henry. Far better, in fact. When will people demand footballers are brought back into the game to save it from the atheletes that have been killing it for a decade?

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    Post by Parks lives Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:53 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Lineker never dived!

    yes he's english.

    "English never dive". ok

    No nothing to do with the nationality or I would of moaned about Owen as well (even though he did go down easily).

    Lineker though, didn't dive.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:54 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:Lineker never dived!

    yes he's english.

    "English never dive". ok

    No nothing to do with the nationality or I would of moaned about Owen as well (even though he did go down easily).

    Lineker though, didn't dive.

    go and tell a cameroonian that or even an African
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    Post by Kevin Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:49 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    Kevin wrote:
    he dove to try and get Puyol sent off. Correct. But are we really, seriously using Henrys sportsmanship as an example that Drogba is better than him.
    Drogba being a player who has not only dove on countless occasions but admitted to do so so he can trick the ref. The player who continously falls over from innocuous challenges to waste time. The player who was getting booed from his own fans due to his antics. That says quite a lot doesnt it? Pot. Kettle.Black.


    Hardly. Drogba dives - almost all players dive, including Henry. Henry used the world's biggest football stage to try to get revenge for his own inability to finish in the CL final. Huge difference. One is merely cheating like most/all top players cheat. The other is a ridiculously arrogant and stupid type of cheating. Only Henry and a handful of others are as sly and snide.

    Cheating is cheating. You try and win an advantage by having one player sent off or by winning a penalty. Its still poor sportsmanship, i fail to see the difference. Ultimately, it is still the attempt at gaining an unfair advantage over the opponent.

    Reciculously arrogant...Drogba has spent the last two seasons saying that he is a better player than not only Henry but eto'o also. That is both arrogant and to hype yourself up like that is rediculous. Henry has never made any claims like that.
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    Post by Kevin Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:53 pm

    waft the hapless youth wrote:Robbie Keane is a better player than henry. Far better, in fact. When will people demand footballers are brought back into the game to save it from the atheletes that have been killing it for a decade?

    Henry has pace. yes of course but the way he beats players requires far more than just pace. I dont recall Cisse being able to beat p;ayers like Henry does. Surely he should get some praise for his ability to change direction quickly.

    Your point about better footballers is interesting. At playing a DB role behind the strikers, Robbie keane is a better player than Henry but then surely any attacking midfielder is better than a defender as they have far more skills. It doesnt make them a better footballer, not by a long shot.

    Surely people who can couple pace, with ball control like Henry and Robben should be congratulated for his ability.
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:57 pm

    Agooner wrote:


    gary lineker. cameroun.


    michael owen. argentina.

    Like I say, top professionals dive. Sad, but true.

    Henry used the highest profile tournament to cheat and disgrace himself while trying to get revenge against Puyol for what was actually his own shoddy performance (choke!) in the CL final.

    Kevin,

    Cheating is cheating. You try and win an advantage by having one player sent off or by winning a penalty. Its still poor sportsmanship, i fail to see the difference. Ultimately, it is still the attempt at gaining an unfair advantage over the opponent.

    Reciculously arrogant...Drogba has spent the last two seasons saying that he is a better player than not only Henry but eto'o also. That is both arrogant and to hype yourself up like that is rediculous. Henry has never made any claims like that.

    Didier is an idiot, we know that. Who cares what footballers say/are reported as saying? Actions speak louder, and Henry's actions on the football pitch are a fucking disgrace.
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    Post by COTR Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:58 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    Kevin wrote:
    he dove to try and get Puyol sent off. Correct. But are we really, seriously using Henrys sportsmanship as an example that Drogba is better than him.
    Drogba being a player who has not only dove on countless occasions but admitted to do so so he can trick the ref. The player who continously falls over from innocuous challenges to waste time. The player who was getting booed from his own fans due to his antics. That says quite a lot doesnt it? Pot. Kettle.Black.


    Hardly. Drogba dives - almost all players dive, including Henry. Henry used the world's biggest football stage to try to get revenge for his own inability to finish in the CL final. Huge difference. One is merely cheating like most/all top players cheat. The other is a ridiculously arrogant and stupid type of cheating. Only Henry and a handful of others are as sly and snide.
    saints come on here. Ive honestly never seen such a ridiculously bias argument from someone who quite clearly has a lot of common sense. henry was actually fouled by puyol so it was not a dive. where he went wrong was clutching his face. ive no problem with you showing disgust at this but to try to differentiate from drogba who recently put in one of the worst displays of sportmanship you are ever likely to see throughout a whole half against barca only makes you sound ridiculous im afraid

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