Drogba Vs Henry

Fair play saints. Henry's actions on the football pitch have sometimes been a disgrace as have Didiers.

COTR wrote:

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Kevin wrote:
he dove to try and get Puyol sent off. Correct. But are we really, seriously using Henrys sportsmanship as an example that Drogba is better than him.
Drogba being a player who has not only dove on countless occasions but admitted to do so so he can trick the ref. The player who continously falls over from innocuous challenges to waste time. The player who was getting booed from his own fans due to his antics. That says quite a lot doesnt it? Pot. Kettle.Black.

Hardly. Drogba dives - almost all players dive, including Henry. Henry used the world's biggest football stage to try to get revenge for his own inability to finish in the CL final. Huge difference. One is merely cheating like most/all top players cheat. The other is a ridiculously arrogant and stupid type of cheating. Only Henry and a handful of others are as sly and snide.

saints come on here. Ive honestly never seen such a ridiculously bias argument from someone who quite clearly has a lot of common sense.

COTR, you might as well just admit that you support Arsenal. It's obvious to everyone here. Calling my argument 'biased' is a childish tactic.

henry was actually fouled by puyol so it was not a dive.

No, they went shoulder to shoulder, Henry didn't even have to go down, he flung himself down with one eye on the ref and pretended to have a fractured nostril in an obvious attempt at revenge for the CL final (when he played poorly, so only has himself to blame).

where he went wrong was clutching his face. ive no problem with you showing disgust at this but to try to differentiate from drogba who recently put in one of the worst displays of sportmanship you are ever likely to see throughout a whole half against barca only makes you sound ridiculous im afraid

Drogba has never done anything as cowardly, pathetic and snide. For a player who was being booed by his own fans last season to come out this year and outperform Henry, Shevchenko, Rooney, Crouch, Saha and all the other forwards in the league shows a lot more character than Henry has EVER shown.

And Henry was crap at Juve...

Drogba did ask for a transfer request before returining and out performing all those strikers but id hate for that to get in the way of your argument...

COTR, you might as well just admit that you support Arsenal. It's obvious to everyone here. Calling my argument 'biased' is a childish tactic.

not looking an argument saints but I don't even think I need to expand on the fact that you criticise all things arsenal.

it's pretty clear I support liverpool. calling me an arsenal supporter is surely a 'childish tactic'.

No, they went shoulder to shoulder, Henry didn't even have to go down, he flung himself down with one eye on the ref and pretended to have a fractured nostril in an obvious attempt at revenge for the CL final (when he played poorly, so only has himself to blame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGfyV_mgUk

not having that im afraid. henry is running at full speed, puyol clearly runs across the front of him and checks his run. much like anyone running at full speed and then suddenly getting stopped you are likely to fall down.. the clutching the face is the only thing you have in your favour with this incident.

Drogba has never done anything as cowardly, pathetic and snide. For a player who was being booed by his own fans last season to come out this year and outperform Henry, Shevchenko, Rooney, Crouch, Saha and all the other forwards in the league shows a lot more character than Henry has EVER shown.

And Henry was crap at Juve...

only more examples of the bias I was talking about... how about we say 'oh and drogba was crap at chelsea for a year or two and was even being booed by his own fans because of his 'cowardly, pathetic and snide' behaviour. Or have you another theory on why he was being booed.

yes drogba has outperformed henry but henry has consistently outperformed dorgba for the past 2 years in the league. where is the room for this important little bit of information in your debate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wNm0K2N_eQ

now just watch these clips and plz try rationally to say that henry's incident is worse than even any of drogba's on here.

COTR wrote:

COTR, you might as well just admit that you support Arsenal. It's obvious to everyone here. Calling my argument 'biased' is a childish tactic.

not looking an argument saints but I don't even think I need to expand on the fact that you criticise all things arsenal.

it's pretty clear I support liverpool. calling me an arsenal supporter is surely a 'childish tactic'.

You never have a bad word to say about Arsenal. Just admit it, there's no reason to feel embarrassed...

saintgoingmarching wrote:

COTR wrote:

COTR, you might as well just admit that you support Arsenal. It's obvious to everyone here. Calling my argument 'biased' is a childish tactic.

not looking an argument saints but I don't even think I need to expand on the fact that you criticise all things arsenal.

it's pretty clear I support liverpool. calling me an arsenal supporter is surely a 'childish tactic'.

You never have a bad word to say about Arsenal. Just admit it, there's no reason to feel embarrassed...

embarrassed..

saints you are above the playground tactics so ill leave it at that

Your psychological condition is a river in Egypt.

saintgoingmarching wrote:Your psychological condition is a river in Egypt.

haha saints. it is ok to lose a debate you know.

unless of course you do want to tell me now what the difference between this playacting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wNm0K2N_eQ

and henry's is...

A river in Egypt...

saintgoingmarching wrote:A river in Egypt...

Irony

Henry couldn't do this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o98QAth9j6A&mode=related&search=

Henry has scored some goals that are alright though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtslrKwtGXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLYVpuPwLAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7pcBb2bMw
etc.

@ saints

This is just one of the reasons why i just laughed at this thread earlier:

His ratio (goals/games) in Europe isn't particularly impressive, thus indicating that his position of 4th in the all time list is primarily due to playing lots and lots of games rather than because he's particularly prolific.

check your stats! u moron. not the first time u have said this and i don't know how many times i have to correct u before u finally allow it to sink in properly.

Check the bbc site: he has scored 43 goals in 86 european matches for arsenal. A similar stats to the likes of raul and sheva. Remember that!

Before u go on about his international record, i have to tell u he has a similar record to shearer and Owen( none regarded as failures on the international stage) since his move to arsenal. Remember that!
Oh he also has most goals and assists for the french national team in 2006 with 8 goals and 4 assists.

Agooner wrote:@ saints

This is just one of the reasons why i just laughed at this thread earlier:

His ratio (goals/games) in Europe isn't particularly impressive, thus indicating that his position of 4th in the all time list is primarily due to playing lots and lots of games rather than because he's particularly prolific.

check your stats!

Since they're all that matters to Arsenal...

u moron. not the first time u have said this and i don't know how many times i have to correct u before u finally allow it to sink in properly.

Boring.

Check the bbc site: he has scored 43 goals in 86 european matches for arsenal. A similar stats to the likes of raul and sheva. Remember that!

Raul's been crap for two seasons though, and scored the vast majority of his goals in considerably fewer games than Henry. And of course he's won the CL. As I've said before, over the last 10 years I'd take Raul, Shevchenko and Crespo over Henry.

Before u go on about his international record, i have to tell u he has a similar record to shearer and Owen( none regarded as failures on the international stage) since his move to arsenal. Remember that!

I will. I'll remember that you put Henry on a par with Shearer and Owen. Good to see an Arsenal fan with some sense.

Oh he also has most goals and assists for the french national team in 2006 with 8 goals and 4 assists.

Still had a poor World Cup (surprise surprise) and played poorly in the biggest game of his club's season.

lrd wrote:He wasnt good in the world cup, but he was very good in the final saint.

I don't remember him doing very much in the final after Zidane got sent off. Maybe we were 'watching different games'...[/quote]

Didnt Zidane get sent off with 10 minutes left, of extra time

Infact wasnt Henry taken off before Zidane was sent off, i guess we were watching different games

l r d wrote:Infact wasnt Henry taken off before Zidane was sent off, i guess we were watching different games

Yep, that'd explain why he didn't do much after Zidane went - he was sat on the bench...

Henry = better striker, better player, better finisher, more skillful, scores a lot of great goals. A lesser version of Ronaldo (the real one).

Drogba = better target man, big, strong and works hard, holds the ball up and knocks it down for lampard, scores a few great goals. A better version of Heskey.

110% wrote:Henry = better striker, better player, better finisher, more skillful, scores a lot of great goals. A lesser version of Ronaldo (the real one).

Can't score headed goals. For a centreforward, this is a serious defect.

saintgoingmarching wrote:

110% wrote:Henry = better striker, better player, better finisher, more skillful, scores a lot of great goals. A lesser version of Ronaldo (the real one).

Can't score headed goals. For a centreforward, this is a serious defect.

Two this season.

Both open goals that I could have scored. I mean a proper header, where he's actually challenged for the ball and doesn't have a barn door to aim at. You know, like Shearer has spent his life scoring...

saintgoingmarching wrote:Both open goals that I could have scored. I mean a proper header, where he's actually challenged for the ball and doesn't have a barn door to aim at. You know, like Shearer has spent his life scoring...

But Shearer never had a particularly large amount of pace. Drogba often lacks a perfect first touch. Nearly every striker ever with the possible exception of Romario and Ronaldo and a few others in history have ahd a couple of poorer area in their game.

Ronaldo(Brazil) can't score for shit with his head, I don't hear people detracting from his class with that.

Shearer was quick enough before his knee injury.

Let's see if Drogba can be top league scorer for 2 or 3 seasons (and consistently get 20 goals a season) for 6 or 7 years. Then he'll be on a par with Henry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucVy8sqQBp4

He could barely get off the ground, the fat bastard.

Isn't it amazing that despite Ronaldo being out of shape and ridiculed for the entire world cup... Henry still couldn't out-score him...

The surrender monkey got 2 extra games aswell.

Shocking.

Crouch > Ronaldo > Shevchenko > Crespo > All

Kevin wrote:

saintgoingmarching wrote:Both open goals that I could have scored. I mean a proper header, where he's actually challenged for the ball and doesn't have a barn door to aim at. You know, like Shearer has spent his life scoring...

But Shearer never had a particularly large amount of pace. Drogba often lacks a perfect first touch. Nearly every striker ever with the possible exception of Romario and Ronaldo and a few others in history have ahd a couple of poorer area in their game.

Like I say, I have no problem with people putting Henry in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Shearer.

robert wrote:Ronaldo(Brazil) can't score for shit with his head, I don't hear people detracting from his class with that.

That's because it isn't his most obvious failing. His most obvious failings are that he's a big chubby, has a dodgy knee and can have games where he does fuck all.

Of course, he's a lot stronger than Henry, more two footed, a better finisher, a better dribbler and works much more effectively in tight spaces.

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Agooner wrote:@ saints

This is just one of the reasons why i just laughed at this thread earlier:

His ratio (goals/games) in Europe isn't particularly impressive, thus indicating that his position of 4th in the all time list is primarily due to playing lots and lots of games rather than because he's particularly prolific.

check your stats!

Since they're all that matters to Arsenal...

u moron. not the first time u have said this and i don't know how many times i have to correct u before u finally allow it to sink in properly.

Boring.

Check the bbc site: he has scored 43 goals in 86 european matches for arsenal. A similar stats to the likes of raul and sheva. Remember that!

Raul's been crap for two seasons though, and scored the vast majority of his goals in considerably fewer games than Henry. And of course he's won the CL. As I've said before, over the last 10 years I'd take Raul, Shevchenko and Crespo over Henry.

Before u go on about his international record, i have to tell u he has a similar record to shearer and Owen( none regarded as failures on the international stage) since his move to arsenal. Remember that!

I will. I'll remember that you put Henry on a par with Shearer and Owen. Good to see an Arsenal fan with some sense.

Oh he also has most goals and assists for the french national team in 2006 with 8 goals and 4 assists.

Still had a poor World Cup (surprise surprise) and played poorly in the biggest game of his club's season.

Again u failed to check your stats , u ....

Ok let me just compare his stats to two of the most succesfull players in CL history:

Raul: 106 matches, 54 goals

Sheva: 81 matches, 42 goals

henry : 83 matches, 42 goals

As u can see above the goals per games ratio is virtually the same for all 3 players.

Btw I never put him in the same category as owen, i only used him as an example because people don't generally consider him a failure at international level despite having the same stats as henry. I could have also used sheva who has similar stats.