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    Ronaldo to break Cole & Shearer Record ?

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    Post by The Pröfessör Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:05 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:Pro Evo has come up with a good way of classing players...

    C.Ronaldo = WF (Wing forward) IMO.

    Lampard = AMF

    Van Persie = SS (2nd Striker)

    ok

    everywhere else in the world apart from england( where midfielders like lampard are judged on goals), people expect more goals from the wingers than all the other midfielders. Take barca for eg. no one expect deco to score more than messi or dinho
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:08 pm

    its not so much what their real position is but where they play.
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    messi plays on the right of eto soo that is way more attacking then deco pull strings together.questions is does ronaldo play on the right side of the midfield or is he allowed to further up the field and play as right winger like messi plays.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:23 pm

    Messi is a SS IMO, same for Dinho - they just operate on different sides of the pitch.

    Barca Play a wierd 4-3-3... It's almost as if all of the front 3 are 2nd strikers.

    ----------------------------DM
    -----------------------CM------CM
    ------------------SS-----------------SS
    ----------------------------SS
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    Post by fcb Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:34 pm

    TeamSpirit™ wrote:Messi is a SS IMO, same for Dinho - they just operate on different sides of the pitch.

    Barca Play a wierd 4-3-3... It's almost as if all of the front 3 are 2nd strikers.

    ----------------------------DM
    -----------------------CM------CM
    ------------------SS-----------------SS
    ----------------------------SS

    Well, Etoo is a lead striker, just not a target man/poacher because he too rotates around and drops deep. He's very dynamic.

    And even our midfield is a bit weird...it's kind of a 1-1-1:

    -------------Edmilson----------------
    ----------Xavi------------------------
    --------------------Deco-------------
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:23 pm

    Cristiano Ronaldo is now only one goal away from equaling Frank Lampard's record for 'most goals from midfield' in a Premiership season ..

    Goals from midfield so far this season

    Ronaldo (Man Utd) - 15
    Lampard (Chelsea) - 10
    Barry (Aston Villa) - 8
    Gilberto (Arsenal) - 7
    Arteta (Everton) - 6
    Pedersen (Blackburn) - 6
    Cahill (Everton) - 5
    Scholes (Man Utd) - 5
    Barton (Man City) - 5
    Young (A.Villa/Watford) - 4
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:29 pm

    kas wrote:
    TeamSpirit™ wrote:Messi is a SS IMO, same for Dinho - they just operate on different sides of the pitch.

    Barca Play a wierd 4-3-3... It's almost as if all of the front 3 are 2nd strikers.

    ----------------------------DM
    -----------------------CM------CM
    ------------------SS-----------------SS
    ----------------------------SS

    Well, Etoo is a lead striker, just not a target man/poacher because he too rotates around and drops deep. He's very dynamic.

    And even our midfield is a bit weird...it's kind of a 1-1-1:

    -------------Edmilson----------------
    ----------Xavi------------------------
    --------------------Deco-------------

    I know - I usually play as Barca on Pro Evo, and I always have to rejig the positions in midfield to make it broader.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:30 pm

    Ronaldo is still a forward IMO - though if Lampard is the record holder, I suppose I'll let him off.
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:08 pm

    i think it is very good for a player to score this many goals when you are not a striker but i dont consider it be better then lampards record since i think he had to do alot more work defensive and the fact that chelsea are not really a attacking team.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:10 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i think it is very good for a player to score this many goals when you are not a striker but i dont consider it be better then lampards record since i think he had to do alot more work defensive and the fact that chelsea are not really a attacking team.

    Makelele and Essien/Tiago did all the defensive work. Lampard had a slave in Drogba as well feeding him goals.
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:10 pm

    How many PK's has Ronaldo taken this season.

    Also didnt Fergie and Ronnie have a 200 bet that Ronnie could score 15 goals..?
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:11 pm

    Parky ^
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    Post by L r d Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:11 pm

    Target Man wrote:How many PK's has Ronaldo taken this season.

    Also didnt Fergie and Ronnie have a 200 bet that Ronnie could score 15 goals..?

    lampard takes penalties aswell. he has got 2 i think in the league, but saha took 2 aswell.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:12 pm

    He's scored 3 penalties.

    It was £400 as well.
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:13 pm

    Parks lives wrote:He's scored 3 penalties.

    It was £400 as well.

    CHA CHING!!!!

    Ronaldo deserves every pennei although he doesnt need it...

    Just hope yesterday's dive doesnt become frequent people will just use it to discredit him of some class performances. Great assist for Scholes ok
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    Post by COTR Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:16 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i think it is very good for a player to score this many goals when you are not a striker but i dont consider it be better then lampards record since i think he had to do alot more work defensive and the fact that chelsea are not really a attacking team.
    chelsea set up their team specifically for flump and drogba. very rarely do you see a well worked team goal from them and they score a very minimal variety of goals

    - header from drogba/terry from set piece

    - rocket out of nothing from flump/drogba

    -scrappy goal from drogba after the ball is launched into the box at him

    the whole team is designed to give drogba and lampard a free reign on goal. lampard is one of the worst contributors to a midfield in terms of general all round play I think i have ever seen at the top level. A comparison between ronaldo and lampard is equally as disgusting as a comparison between gerrard and lampard Wink
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    Post by Cesc Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:24 pm

    Yeah it was £400.

    Ronaldo has actually won the bet twice before in the previous two seasons. He has not claimed the money though.

    I only seen bits of the game yesterday. Decided to go to O'Neills with a few friends not thinking that it would be full of Welsh and Irish Rugby fans. They only had a small screen for the football. Bloody tiny thing.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:25 pm

    @ Cesc

    This is the first season in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals for Manchester United.
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    Post by Cesc Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:26 pm

    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Cesc

    This is the first season in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals for Manchester United.
    The goal target was smaller in those seasons. Wink

    I'll try to dig out the article.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:26 pm

    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Cesc

    This is the first season in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals for Manchester United.

    Yeah but I think Cesc is saying last year his bet with Fergie was for a lower target, I think it was 10.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:27 pm

    Cesc wrote:
    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Cesc

    This is the first season in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals for Manchester United.
    The goal target was smaller in those seasons. Wink

    I'll try to dig out the article.

    Ah i see ..

    Isn't Rio on a similar bet/target?
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:27 pm

    It was 15 commentator said it in the Arse Vs Man Ure game
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    Post by L r d Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:28 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Hendrik Krol wrote:@ Cesc

    This is the first season in which Ronaldo has scored 15 goals for Manchester United.

    Yeah but I think Cesc is saying last year his bet with Fergie was for a lower target, I think it was 10.

    It was but he didnt score 10 either time. it was 100 pound ronaldo lost 200 pound ronaldo lost now 400 he won Biggrin
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:30 pm

    COTR wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i think it is very good for a player to score this many goals when you are not a striker but i dont consider it be better then lampards record since i think he had to do alot more work defensive and the fact that chelsea are not really a attacking team.
    chelsea set up their team specifically for flump and drogba. very rarely do you see a well worked team goal from them and they score a very minimal variety of goals

    - header from drogba/terry from set piece

    - rocket out of nothing from flump/drogba

    -scrappy goal from drogba after the ball is launched into the box at him

    the whole team is designed to give drogba and lampard a free reign on goal. lampard is one of the worst contributors to a midfield in terms of general all round play I think i have ever seen at the top level. A comparison between ronaldo and lampard is equally as disgusting as a comparison between gerrard and lampard Wink
    well that is how you see it. but i think he does alot for the team both offensive and defensive while ronaldo has way more free role in a way more attacking team.again im not saying ronaldos record isnt good becaus i think it is great but i think more of lampards.
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    Post by Cesc Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:31 pm

    I think Rio is on a similar bet with 5 goals.

    If memory serves me correctly he mentioned it after scoring vs Liverpool.

    Doesn't he have 3 goals this season.
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    Post by TM Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:31 pm

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=tottenham-0%2D4-man-utd%26method=full%26objectid=18576036%26siteid=94762-name_page.html

    Twas 15.
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    Post by Machiavel Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:34 pm

    Cesc wrote:I think Rio is on a similar bet with 5 goals.

    If memory serves me correctly he mentioned it after scoring vs Liverpool.

    Doesn't he have 3 goals this season.

    Nemanja 'Drago' Vidic has 3 Very Happy

    I think Rio has only 1 goal this season ..
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    Post by L r d Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:34 pm

    Yeah this season, but previous been 10
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    Post by S4P Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:58 pm

    And yet Lampard makes more passes, more (legal) tackles, more interceptions than his England companion.

    Like Jose said, "Lamps can do anything".

    @ COTR

    How many well-worked goals do you see from Liverpool (especially when Crouch is playing)?

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    Post by L r d Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:00 am

    S4P wrote:And yet Lampard makes more passes, more (legal) tackles, more interceptions than his England companion.

    Like Jose said, "Lamps can do anything".

    @ COTR

    How many well-worked goals do you see from Liverpool (especially when Crouch is playing)?

    Wink

    How about his goal on Tuesday?
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:07 am

    plenty SP


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wod2GnTZPJU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEDbYWsG_Jc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giEh6dwunio

    Enjoy Wink


    P.S we all know that lamps can do very little.. no point quoting jose on this Smile.

    even cesc said today 'lampard is a good player but you often don't see him for most of a game as he often goes missing'. stating the obvious really


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