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    Post by bluenine Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:10 pm

    We have had 27 votes, and the results are as follows:

    Goalkeepers:
    Player - Votes - Percentage Votes

    1. Buffon - 23 - (85%)
    2. Cech - 21 - (78%)
    3. Cassillas - 13 - (48%)

    Defenders:
    1 Zambrotta - 20 - (74%)
    2 Alves - 19 - (70%)
    3 Chivu - 17 - (63%)
    4 Nesta - 14 - (52%)
    5 Ferdinand - 13 - (48%)
    6 Gallas - 12 - (44%)
    7 Terry - 11 - (41%)
    8 Lahm - 10 - (37%)

    Midfielders:
    1. Kaka - 26 - (96%)
    2. Ronaldinho - 26 - (96%)
    3. C Ronaldo - 22 - (81%)
    4. Eissen - 20 - (74%)
    5. Messi - 15 - (56%)
    6. Totti - 13 - (48%)
    6. Cambiasso - 13 - (48%)

    Strikers:
    1 Drogba - 23 - (85%)
    2 Eto'o - 22 - (81%)
    3 Villa - 11 - (41%)
    3 Ibrahimovic - 11 - (41%)
    3 Henry - 11 (41%)


    Interesting stuff, eh? I think one thing we all will agree. There are more than 23 "world class" players out there... there is no way players like Toni, Gerrard, J Zanetti are not world class!!
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:15 pm

    Look at the midfielders though. Essien and Cambiasso are the only one's who can play defensively at all.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:18 pm

    and most of those "midfielders" are forwards imo.
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    Post by bluenine Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:57 pm

    Yeah, but I guess you will not get a perfect complimentary sqaud from a vote...

    I guess what I wanted to prove is that the notion of defining "world class" as players who will make a world squad of 23 is a bit silly, coz surely there are more "world class" players in the world than that.

    Parks lives wrote:Look at the midfielders though. Essien and Cambiasso are the only one's who can play defensively at all.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:13 pm

    How on Earth did Demy de Zeeuw not make the final cut ?!

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    Post by DD Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:18 pm

    No Lampard or Cannavaro!? Yikes

    Current WPOTY and recent 2nd WPOTY. That must count for something...
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    Post by Deano Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:19 pm

    I think that looks fair enough to be honest.

    Toni should be in there, over Ibrahimovic IMO.
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    Post by Ä Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:32 pm

    the list is completely ridiculous

    a total farce

    if it really reflects the combined knowledge of all posters on this board, we should close down all football sections immediately and concentrate on the Off-Topic category

    DREADFUL, DREADFUL stuff

    if you fruitcakes want to learn about football, study EVERY word Puro and Pirlo write; learn their posts by heart

    otherwise, you are DOOMED affraid
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    Post by DD Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:44 pm

    Hush Otto. At least you had Lahm in there. No Dutchies. Sad

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    Post by Ä Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:52 pm

    @DD

    I should be more diplomatic, but the level of ignorance on this board, despite everybody on here being exposed to posters from all over the world, is CRIMINAL

    it's like being on a FILM MB that produces a Top 10 Films of all time list looking like this

    1. Love Actually
    2. Goal
    3. Charlie's Angels
    4. Never Been Kissed
    5. Resident Evil 2
    6. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
    7. Missioni Impossible
    8. You've got Mail
    9. Be Cool
    10. Aliens vs Predator
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    Post by Deano Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:57 pm

    Other than Lahm there are no German players who are better than the ones in the list above. Once you learn this Otto you will no longer live in delusion.
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    Post by DD Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:59 pm

    Armageddon would top that list anyday of the week. Top film. ok


    I enjoyed RE2 though... sort of Embarassed
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    Post by S4P Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:04 pm

    How on earth Dinho can receive as many votes as Kaka is beyond me Whistle Wink
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    Post by Rosicky Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:04 pm

    come on then otto, you give us you're squad of 23 then....
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:11 pm

    S4P2 wrote:How on earth Dinho can receive as many votes as Kaka is beyond me Whistle Wink

    I think pretty much everyone included both Swarpy - in a squad of 23 it's hardly an "either/or" situation ok

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    Post by lampiao007 Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:33 pm

    Otto der Schweinehund wrote:@DD

    I should be more diplomatic, but the level of ignorance on this board, despite everybody on here being exposed to posters from all over the world, is CRIMINAL

    it's like being on a FILM MB that produces a Top 10 Films of all time list looking like this

    1. Love Actually
    2. Goal
    3. Charlie's Angels
    4. Never Been Kissed
    5. Resident Evil 2
    6. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
    7. Missioni Impossible
    8. You've got Mail
    9. Be Cool
    10. Aliens vs Predator

    What? No Titanic? FIX i say......
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:36 pm

    It sinks.

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    Post by NCFC Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:53 pm

    Drogba with a higher percentage than Eto'o! Very surprised. Amazing how much progress can be made in one season.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:20 pm

    I'd have Zanetti ahead of Lahm and Gerrard should also have a place in midfield.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:29 pm

    First you all vote and then you are blaming yourself for voting these guys.... strange scratch
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:22 pm

    Otto der Schweinehund wrote:the list is completely ridiculous

    a total farce

    if it really reflects the combined knowledge of all posters on this board, we should close down all football sections immediately and concentrate on the Off-Topic category

    DREADFUL, DREADFUL stuff

    if you fruitcakes want to learn about football, study EVERY word Puro and Pirlo write; learn their posts by heart

    otherwise, you are DOOMED affraid
    lol..I thought the same thing! only 1 french in the list and the worst:Henry.

    To be fair Otto i remember very well at the time they had problems to admit some players not playing in the EPL can have talent.With the WC they learnt the modesty and we must say they are now more "neutral and fair"..But of course they still have a lot to learn...Some players in the list are jokes <Ale>
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    Post by Since 1888 Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:34 pm

    Arnaud is beautiful wrote:
    Otto der Schweinehund wrote:the list is completely ridiculous

    a total farce

    if it really reflects the combined knowledge of all posters on this board, we should close down all football sections immediately and concentrate on the Off-Topic category

    DREADFUL, DREADFUL stuff

    if you fruitcakes want to learn about football, study EVERY word Puro and Pirlo write; learn their posts by heart

    otherwise, you are DOOMED affraid
    lol..I thought the same thing! only 1 french in the list and the worst:Henry.

    To be fair Otto i remember very well at the time they had problems to admit some players not playing in the EPL can have talent.With the WC they learnt the modesty and we must say they are now more "neutral and fair"..But of course they still have a lot to learn...Some players in the list are jokes <Ale>

    Gallas is what nationality? And who are the joke names according to you?

    And why isnt Cisse there?!!!! Morons!
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    Post by Rosicky Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:58 pm

    Since 1888 wrote:

    Gallas is what nationality?

    lol! ok
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:21 pm

    I'm surprised Messi made the list to be honest
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    Post by bluenine Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:21 pm

    The stuff that I find quite shocking:

    Cannavaro - WPOTY, Ballon D'Or winner, best defender of the WC, etc could not make it over Gallas/Terry. Its ridiculous.

    Zanetti, there is no explanation, except that people get too swayed by few current performances.... Alves getting the second highest number of votes, there is no way he makes the list over Zanetti.

    Can't complain about the midfield, but players like gerrard, ballack, stankovic, nedved, etc are also world class in my book. Hence I DON'T agree with only calling these players world class.

    Toni, he should ve made it, and is easily world class. As is Ronaldo, Adriano, Crespo, Rooney, Shevchenko, Tevez, etc - again, you cannot just call 23 players world class.


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    Post by bluenine Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:26 pm

    The top 20 defenders, look how low Zanetti, Lucio and Cannavaro are Shocked

    1 Zambrotta 20
    2 Alves 19
    3 Chivu 17
    4 Nesta 14
    5 Ferdinand 13
    6 Gallas 12
    7 Terry 11
    8 Lahm 10
    9 Sagnol 8
    9 Carvalho 8
    11 Puyol 7
    11 Miguel 7
    11 Alex 7
    14 J Zanetti 5
    15 Hienze 4
    16 Stam 3
    16 Vidic 3
    16 Oddo 3
    16 Marquez 3
    16 Materazzi 3
    16 Lucio 3
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:27 pm

    Bluenine.

    Cannavaro's has played like a donkey ass in spain tho.
    He only got the WPOR because he played well at the WC.

    Otherwise, i'd rather play with 10 men Smile
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    Post by Hardrada Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:28 pm

    I don't see how Zanetti deserves a place really. He's achieved a lot less than, say, Gary Neville - and people would laugh if he were included in the list.

    Cannavaro's emission is hardly shocking either. Carvalho is a better player and didn't get in.

    Toni I agree should be there. I wouldnt say any of "Ronaldo, Adriano, Crespo, Rooney, Tevez" are currently world class. Shevchenko has a much better shout than those.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:30 pm

    bluenine wrote:The stuff that I find quite shocking:

    Cannavaro - WPOTY, Ballon D'Or winner, best defender of the WC, etc could not make it over Gallas/Terry. Its ridiculous.

    Zanetti, there is no explanation, except that people get too swayed by few current performances.... Alves getting the second highest number of votes, there is no way he makes the list over Zanetti.

    Can't complain about the midfield, but players like gerrard, ballack, stankovic, nedved, etc are also world class in my book. Hence I DON'T agree with only calling these players world class.

    Toni, he should ve made it, and is easily world class. As is Ronaldo, Adriano, Crespo, Rooney, Tevez, etc - again, you cannot just call 23 players world class.
    i dont think you can these players world class yet. rooney still has to prove that he can play well with pressure and tevez just arrived this season to europe and he is just now performing. also im not sure crespo currently is world class. and trust me alves is great and he has been since last season but the thing is he has been even better this season. i rate Zanetti but this season i dont think he has been better then alves.
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    Post by bluenine Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:32 pm

    Inter may have achieved less than ManU, but that does not make Neville a better player than Zanetti.

    Inter fans rate Zanetti at least equal to if not over Facchetti, he has been exceptional for Inter for over 10 years, and has been quite easily the best RB in the world during this period, only Cafu and Thuram coming close IMO.

    Hardrada wrote:I don't see how Zanetti deserves a place really. He's achieved a lot less than, say, Gary Neville - and people would laugh if he were included in the list.

    Cannavaro's emission is hardly shocking either. Carvalho is a better player and didn't get in.

    Toni I agree should be there. I wouldnt say any of "Ronaldo, Adriano, Crespo, Rooney, Tevez" are currently world class. Shevchenko has a much better shout than those.

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