De Ja Vu Liverpool vs Chelsea Discussion

CT wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:So what should we say?

I don't know, what about about 4 / 5 posts making exactly the same point? We heard you the first time, it wasn't a good match, get over it.

More like, posting about how fantastic Gerrard was, and if someone diagrees telling to F-off. Should check your facts boyo.

S4P2 wrote:I don't know what's worse. The fact we couldn't score over 120 minutes, or the fact that 2 out of 3 players on £50,000 a week+ can't finish from 12 yards.

Bit of an oversimplification of taking penalties I feel. Players have always missed them because nobody is perfect

S4P2 wrote:Maybe I missed all these Gerrard bursts from midfield, carrying the ball forward, running at and beyond defenders.

Like I said, he was better than Lampard, but there were 5 other midfielders on the pitch who were better than Gerrard tonight.

you are expecting too much if you think gerrard can singlehandedly burst through chelsea's four man defensive shield, especially when outnumbered in midfield. his job tonight was to try to control the midfield and not get caught making too many forward runs ( the very thing people criticise him for ). he simply cannot win whereas masch is getting praise heaped on him for doing the same job

the double standards are shocking

Miss the point a bit about the quality of football. It wouldn't be so bad if the quality was garbage if both teams were going all out to win. But Chelsea were playing not to lose for a lot of the match

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:I don't know what's worse. The fact we couldn't score over 120 minutes, or the fact that 2 out of 3 players on £50,000 a week+ can't finish from 12 yards.

Bit of an oversimplification of taking penalties I feel. Players have always missed them because nobody is perfect

I know the pressure on the players is huge (certainly playing away from home), but you'd think that they would be capable of scoring from 12 yards, no matter who's in goal.

waft the hapless youth wrote:

CT wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:So what should we say?

I don't know, what about about 4 / 5 posts making exactly the same point? We heard you the first time, it wasn't a good match, get over it.

More like, posting about how fantastic Gerrard was, and if someone diagrees telling to F-off. Should check your facts boyo.

You read the 'f@ck off' in the wrong context. Have you never been in an argument where someone goes 'f@ck off, (add argument here)'? Wasn't meant to be offensive.

S4P2 wrote:

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:I don't know what's worse. The fact we couldn't score over 120 minutes, or the fact that 2 out of 3 players on £50,000 a week+ can't finish from 12 yards.

Bit of an oversimplification of taking penalties I feel. Players have always missed them because nobody is perfect

I know the pressure on the players is huge (certainly playing away from home), but you'd think that they would be capable of scoring from 12 yards, no matter who's in goal.

Then what would be the point of them if everybody scores

Congrats to Liverpool. I didn't care which team to go through because both are not my favourite teams and as excpected it was a $h!t game again...

Liverpool were the better team and had to win this at regular time! The goal of Kuyt was no way off side...

I predicted Liverpool to go through on penalties so it didn't came as a surprise...

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:I don't know what's worse. The fact we couldn't score over 120 minutes, or the fact that 2 out of 3 players on £50,000 a week+ can't finish from 12 yards.

Bit of an oversimplification of taking penalties I feel. Players have always missed them because nobody is perfect

I know the pressure on the players is huge (certainly playing away from home), but you'd think that they would be capable of scoring from 12 yards, no matter who's in goal.

Then what would be the point of them if everybody scores

You know what I mean

Someone's obviously gonna miss at some point (ala England v Germany Euro 96 ), but 2 of your first 3 missing is unbelievable (especially Geremi, who supposedly came on to take a penalty)

You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

waft the hapless youth wrote:You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

No, Carragher got there 1st.

Well done Liverpool.

Mourinhio is just not as good a manager as some make out. Thats not knee jerk, because they failed to go through. Thats because he must of been able to tell he had no drive in midfield at all and Lampard was doing nothing. Surely Essien would of been better in midfield even if they would of had to play Boulah at the back.

Motm - Makelele. The only player who used the ball intelligently.

S4P2 wrote:

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:

OwenThomas4 wrote:

S4P2 wrote:I don't know what's worse. The fact we couldn't score over 120 minutes, or the fact that 2 out of 3 players on £50,000 a week+ can't finish from 12 yards.

Bit of an oversimplification of taking penalties I feel. Players have always missed them because nobody is perfect

I know the pressure on the players is huge (certainly playing away from home), but you'd think that they would be capable of scoring from 12 yards, no matter who's in goal.

Then what would be the point of them if everybody scores

You know what I mean

Someone's obviously gonna miss at some point (ala England v Germany Euro 96 ), but 2 of your first 3 missing is unbelievable (especially Geremi, who supposedly came on to take a penalty)

Must have choked?

waft the hapless youth wrote:You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

no it was a miracle stop by carragher I think.

that was the only real heart in mouth moment for me tonight

As soon as Jose gets over his love-affair with Frank, we can start to move forward.

Frank just can't do it for us anymore. He's past it.

A lot has changed in 10 months

COTR wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

no it was a miracle stop by carragher I think.

that was the only real heart in mouth moment for me tonight

What about when it went hrough the Drogs legs in ET?

S4P2 wrote:As soon as Jose gets over his love-affair with Frank, we can start to move forward.

Frank just can't do it for us anymore. He's past it.

you are finally converted

S4P2 wrote:As soon as Jose gets over his love-affair with Frank, we can start to move forward.

Frank just can't do it for us anymore. He's past it.

Just hope Roman does not ... show Jose the door.

waft the hapless youth wrote:

COTR wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

no it was a miracle stop by carragher I think.

that was the only real heart in mouth moment for me tonight

What about when it went hrough the Drogs legs in ET?

carragher again i think


what did you make of kuyt's goal

ITV even had it up on the scoreboard as a goal

so cruel

Funny to see the Dutch and the English had to take the penalties today... Two nations with the worst penalty record in the world had to do it for these teams...

I feel sorry for Robben. He was not match fit. had not hit a ball for month and immediately he had to take a penalty!

COTR wrote:

S4P2 wrote:As soon as Jose gets over his love-affair with Frank, we can start to move forward.

Frank just can't do it for us anymore. He's past it.

you are finally converted

Only in recent months. Even up till January, Frank was getting in the positions and scoring the goals. Now he's trying to do too much defensive work, which is fucking us up badly.

Doesn't change the fact Gerrard was woefully average tonight

Parks lives wrote:Well done Liverpool.

Mourinhio is just not as good a manager as some make out. Thats not knee jerk, because they failed to go through. Thats because he must of been able to tell he had no drive in midfield at all and Lampard was doing nothing. Surely Essien would of been better in midfield even if they would of had to play Boulah at the back.

Motm - Makelele. The only player who used the ball intelligently.

I disagree. His alignment towards Lampard is misplaced, but that apart he has done nothing to show me he is anything but one of the better managers in world football.

Maké had one of his better performances this year but he misplaced the ball badly on at least 3 occasions, which in his position is worrying.

Ricardo Jol wrote:Funny to see the Dutch and the English had to take the penalties today... Two nations with the worst penalty record in the world had to do it for these teams...

I feel sorry for Robben. He was not match fit. had not hit a ball for month and immediately he had to take a penalty!

To be fair to Robben it wasnt a bad penalty, and Reina was way off his line i thought. Geremi pen was awful, Robben's was good

Mourinho is probably the best motivator in the world. However, he's not the best tactician, nor is he anywhere near. This is why we struggle when we play sides like Liverpool away.

COTR wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:

COTR wrote:

waft the hapless youth wrote:You see when ashley cole smashed it in and it went just over, did Drogba get a touch?

no it was a miracle stop by carragher I think.

that was the only real heart in mouth moment for me tonight

What about when it went hrough the Drogs legs in ET?

carragher again i think


what did you make of kuyt's goal

ITV even had it up on the scoreboard as a goal

so cruel

Defo that he was on I thought.

Felt sorry for Dick Kurt, he ran all the way around the pitch to the half-way line before knowing it wasn't given! Chelsea can't moan about the Kalou foul because the second was a goal IMO.

L.r.d wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:Funny to see the Dutch and the English had to take the penalties today... Two nations with the worst penalty record in the world had to do it for these teams...

I feel sorry for Robben. He was not match fit. had not hit a ball for month and immediately he had to take a penalty!

To be fair to Robben it wasnt a bad penalty, and Reina was way off his line i thought. Geremi pen was awful, Robben's was good

flumps', zenden's and alonso's penalties were all unstoppable

reina is just a monster

he actually read robben's movement and just left the line at the right time and saved it comfortably

cech looked huge in the goals but we just have luck on our side for the shootouts it seems

L.r.d wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:Funny to see the Dutch and the English had to take the penalties today... Two nations with the worst penalty record in the world had to do it for these teams...

I feel sorry for Robben. He was not match fit. had not hit a ball for month and immediately he had to take a penalty!

To be fair to Robben it wasnt a bad penalty, and Reina was way off his line i thought. Geremi pen was awful, Robben's was good

it was too obvious....

Reina always went to the right corner. I mean, for a right footed player most of the balls go to the right side of the keeper and the other way around for left footed players.... Cech didn't do that...

S4P2 wrote:Mourinho is probably the best motivator in the world. However, he's not the best tactician, nor is he anywhere near. This is why we struggle when we play sides like Liverpool away.

all teams struggle when they play liverpool away though

his CL record is good but he just can't get the better of rafa

im not sure a new coach would do any better, in fact im sure of it but a new coach may improve on the punts to drogba which is no doubt what roman is after for his billions

Ricardo Jol wrote:

L.r.d wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:Funny to see the Dutch and the English had to take the penalties today... Two nations with the worst penalty record in the world had to do it for these teams...

I feel sorry for Robben. He was not match fit. had not hit a ball for month and immediately he had to take a penalty!

:roll:

To be fair to Robben it wasnt a bad penalty, and Reina was way off his line i thought. Geremi pen was awful, Robben's was good

it was too obvious....

Reina always went to the right corner. I mean, for a right footed player most of the balss go to the left side of the keeper and the other way around for left footed players.... Cech didn't do that...

:k:

I managed to guess where every single penalty (even the 5 that went in) were going, they were that obvious. Just the fact that 3 of them were unstoppable.