FC Bayern Munich 2006/07

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anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Effenberg wrote:Shame about Poldi. I don't think we'll see him again before the break.

Well, with Pizarro seemingly getting better (not talking about his annoyance factor) and Makaay a firm fixture, I don't think we would have seen much of him anyway, to be honest.

But to quote Dieter Eilts, wäre meine Oma ein Bus, dann könnte sie hupen.

Makaay out by the turn of the year?

Hmm, why? I think he's doing well for Bayern so far this season, scoring seven goals, even one more than Klose, only one less than Gomez and Pantelic...and just recently he even found out that playing football can be more than just standing around and waiting for an assist...

Deisler führt Bayern zum Sieg
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,450712,00.html

Hi

Can anyone tell me a little more about Stefan Maierhofer, please?

I like tall players, provided their build is in proportion to their height, e.g., Jancker, Koller, Van Buyten, etc, and they have a sufficient amount of technical ability.

Who is his physique similar to: Koller or Crouch? Is he technically proficient, or does he lack composure and a first-touch?

While I’m here, I should mention that I was fortunate enough to witness Bayern Munich play Rangers in the Champions League during season 1999/2000. You had a brilliant team – and brilliant manager – then. Your team was excellent all over the pitch: Elber, Jancker, Effenberg, Basler, Scholl, Matthaus, Lizarazu, Paulo Sergio, Salihamidzic, Link, Finke, Jeremies, Tarnat, Zickler, Babbel, etc.

That was a tough group: Valencia were brilliant under Cuper; PSV still had Van Nistelrooy, Nilis, Van Bommel, etc; Rangers were at their best under Advocaat, and Mols, Van Bronkhorst and Ferguson were excellent.

It was a brilliant group – certainly the best Rangers have ever been involved in. Rangers were a little unlucky not to get through, I think. They dominated the match in Munich and it was a little harsh to see them beaten by a penalty. Kahn was, however, brilliant that night.

What happened to Stefan Wessels, the young goalkeeper who had to make his debut at Ibrox owing to an injury to Kahn?

I have a fondness for tall strikers as well, but from what I've seen of Maierhofer he is NOT the real deal. He's 26 and still playing in Bayern's 3rd division team. That should tell you something.

Stefan Wessels is Cologne's no. 1 at the moment. Good goalie. Hope to see him back in the Bundesliga soon.

Thanks Effenberg,

I was assuming he was just a teenager. Is Maierhofer that poor that Bayern can’t bring him on as a last resort to rile opposing defenders?

I know Sante Cruz is tall, but apart from Jancker have Bayern had any really towering, physical forwards since Jancker left?

Shouldn’t Bayern have signed Koller when he was at his peak in Germany? It would have been a treat to have seen him play up-front in that 1999/2000 team with Jancker. They would be unstoppable, especially with Effenberg, Jeremies, Matthaus and Kahn behind them!

Maierhofer is the very last option at the moment. I think if he had the talent some Bundesliga club would've snatched him up or taken him on loan. He is not as physically impressive as Jancker or Koller. More tall and lanky.

The Bayern team between 1998 and 2002 was fantastic. One of the best we've ever head. They should really have won more than one CL. (But, hey, at least they did win it again, finally.) Obviously the final againt ManU should've been won, but also in 2000 when they went out against Real in the QF after beating them 4-2 and 4-1 in the group phase. Real and Bayern were clearly the top teams in those 5 years.

There are many ingredients (first and foremost a capable coach) missing at the moment. It takes years to build a team like that. Barca and Lyon have it, and perhaps Chelsea (through money and a good, though arrogant, coach). Everybody in those teams knows what they have to do. You can wake them up at 3am and they'd beat most teams in Europe on autopilot.

Deisler begeistert seine Mitspieler
http://www.welt.de/data/2006/11/27/1125722.html

Seine Frau muss sich zwar keine Sorgen machen, aber wie zärtlich Willy Sagnol seinen Kollegen Sebastian Deisler unmittelbar nach dem 2:1 (0:1) des FC Bayern München beim Hamburger SV in seine Arme schloss, war schon bemerkenswert. Der Franzose ließ den Deutschen gar nicht mehr los und flüsterte ihm fast eine Minute ins Ohr. Den exakten Wortlaut wollte keiner von beiden anschließend preisgeben. Es kann sich allerdings nur um ein außerordentlich herzliches "Merci" und ein "Gratuliere" gehandelt haben.

"Im Fußball herrscht der pure Egoismus" - KHR
http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_619207.html

Ballmädchen wrote:"Im Fußball herrscht der pure Egoismus" - KHR
http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_619207.html

Was Werder Bremen in der Champions League gegen Barcelona und Chelsea bisher geschafft habe, sei deshalb ein Wunder. Und wenn die Bremer gegen Barcelona weiterkommen, ist es das achte Weltwunder. Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

Wunder gibt es immer wieder, heute oder morgen (oder nächsten Dienstag ) können sie geschehen...

chrissicross wrote:

Rummenigge:

Was Werder Bremen in der Champions League gegen Barcelona und Chelsea bisher geschafft habe, sei deshalb ein Wunder. Und wenn die Bremer gegen Barcelona weiterkommen, ist es das achte Weltwunder. Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

the Bayern manager is talking out of his arse

as usual

he just does not understand that money is far less important to winning than proper team-work, scouting, management (at commercial and football level)

complete idiot

Villareal are not super-rich; neither are Bremen , and last season's Arsenal reached the final with a team of no-name kids, not with Vieira, Overmars and Co

besides, the hypocrisy is sickening: Bayern are as dominant financially in the Bundesliga as Chelsea, Real and Milan in the CL

Bayern are getting a dose of their own medicine and don't like it one bit

It's interesting though Rummenigge wants to leave the G14 while Allofs would like to join. Maybe Bayern and Bremen could just swap then...

chrissicross wrote:Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

No wonder Dutch clubs can't compete with *anyone*

The true Wunder is the consistent performance by PSV and the Portuguese clubs in the Champion's League....

Axeslammer ! wrote:

chrissicross wrote:Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

No wonder Dutch clubs can't compete with *anyone*

The true Wunder is the consistent performance by PSV and the Portuguese clubs in the Champion's League....

About how much "TV money" do Dutch football clubs like PSV or Ajax earn per year then?

chrissicross wrote:

Axeslammer ! wrote:

chrissicross wrote:Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

No wonder Dutch clubs can't compete with *anyone*

The true Wunder is the consistent performance by PSV and the Portuguese clubs in the Champion's League....

About how much "TV money" do Dutch football clubs like PSV or Ajax earn per year then?

I'm assuming we're talking about the national league here, not CL.

<me hits the google>...Ajax grossed 11.9M for tv and internet....that's *including* UEFA-Cup and preliminary CL though...

Those numbers Rummenigge mentioned were CL TV revenues.

Axeslammer ! wrote:

chrissicross wrote:

Axeslammer ! wrote:

chrissicross wrote:Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

No wonder Dutch clubs can't compete with *anyone*

The true Wunder is the consistent performance by PSV and the Portuguese clubs in the Champion's League....

About how much "TV money" do Dutch football clubs like PSV or Ajax earn per year then?

I'm assuming we're talking about the national league here, not CL.

<me hits the google>...Ajax grossed 11.9M for tv and internet....that's *including* UEFA-Cup and preliminary CL though...

It's like blut said, this 23 million Euro for Werder include about 11 million Euro from last year's CL season...so I think Ajax and Bremen earn about the same then...

chrissicross wrote:

Axeslammer ! wrote:

<me hits the google>...Ajax grossed 11.9M for tv and internet....that's *including* UEFA-Cup and preliminary CL though...

It's like blut said, this 23 million Euro for Werder include about 11 million Euro from last year's CL season...so I think Ajax and Bremen earn about the same then...

I find that hard to believe.

The bundesliga obviously generates more cash than the Eredivisie...

....darn, I can't find it on google...maybe someone else can...

How are the TV rights marketed in Holland? Central marketing, or does every club, the big ones in particular, do it themselves?

Axeslammer ! wrote:

chrissicross wrote:

Axeslammer ! wrote:

<me hits the google>...Ajax grossed 11.9M for tv and internet....that's *including* UEFA-Cup and preliminary CL though...

It's like blut said, this 23 million Euro for Werder include about 11 million Euro from last year's CL season...so I think Ajax and Bremen earn about the same then...

I find that hard to believe.

The bundesliga obviously generates more cash than the Eredivisie...

....darn, I can't find it on google...maybe someone else can...

Just take a look at this link:

http://www.fussballportal.de/vermischtes/TV-Gelder-sollen-nach-Leistung-verteilt-werden.php

According to this article Bayern earned about 16 million Euro last season from the national league, and Bayern surely earn a few millions more then Werder Bremen...

blutgraetsche wrote:How are the TV rights marketed in Holland? Central marketing, or does every club, the big ones in particular, do it themselves?

As far as I know they're not allowed to do their own marketing (one of the things they keep complaining about).

I made a new thread about it : someone must have a link with all the info we're searching....I hope

otto: Albion's No 1 fan wrote:

chrissicross wrote:

Rummenigge:

Was Werder Bremen in der Champions League gegen Barcelona und Chelsea bisher geschafft habe, sei deshalb ein Wunder. Und wenn die Bremer gegen Barcelona weiterkommen, ist es das achte Weltwunder. Bremen kassiert 23 Millionen vom Fernsehen, Barcelona 143 Millionen.

the Bayern manager is talking out of his arse

as usual

he just does not understand that money is far less important to winning than proper team-work, scouting, management (at commercial and football level)

complete idiot

Villareal are not super-rich; neither are Bremen , and last season's Arsenal reached the final with a team of no-name kids, not with Vieira, Overmars and Co

besides, the hypocrisy is sickening: Bayern are as dominant financially in the Bundesliga as Chelsea, Real and Milan in the CL

Bayern are getting a dose of their own medicine and don't like it one bit

I agree with you about the hypocrisy Otto. Don't mean to offend the fans whose thread this is, but the combination of the way Hoeneß and Rummenigge talk like this, complaining about other clubs' financial dominance – when they are the ONE German club obviously not entitled to make this point!! – and elsewhere their arrogance in repeatedly talking in tones of "oh, we'll be top again by the end of the Wiesnzeit/November etc" or now "ich kann mir vorstellen, daß wir nun doch wieder den Nikolaus feiern" (Hoeneß of course; small prize to the first person to spot him saying "we'll be top before Christmas", of course), or "We won't lose another Bundesliga game this season"/"we're on a higher level than Bremen" is infuriating. I could never hate them as much as U*d, but the hypocrisy and arrogance sometimes puts even Ferguson to shame...

I wouldn't want more money for Bayern. I'd like the other teams to get less money. Hoeness said something similar earlier this season.

The Bundesliga certainly makes more money than the Ehrendivise, but the money is divided among the 36 teams of Bundesliga 1&2.

He might come back before the winter break after all.

'Poldi poised to resume training'

http://www.fcbayern.t-com.de/en/news/news/2006/09976.php?fcb_sid=92ad59895be48c89dc8b5e61fe0a54c5

Hi guys,

how 'safe' (if this can be a word applied to this season on a Bayern game) could be a victory against Borussia M'glabach?

Thanks

Gladbach almost never win a match away from home, and Bayern are gaining form. A very safe bet, under normal circumstances that is.

I'll put money on it myself. Go for it.

Definately , we are getting in the mood.

Well, guys... its done. Lets hope for the best. I'm on a great strike of results again!!!

I started 6 weeks ago with 500 EUR, was at 350 EUR... and now am again in 650 EUR!

Last year I had already 1.000, this year I can't count on X-Mas gifts with the gambling, but it would be nice to achieve 800 EUR.

I lost all of my money last year so I took a break. I just went back to betting last week. Started with 40€ on Tuesday and now I'm at 180€. I want to keep winning (obviously) and use a bunch of the dough on the 2nd round of the CL. Especially the first leg has the best odds. My goal is to hit a big one and win around 5,000. It's possible. I got close last year and I'd only used 50 Euros on about 25 bets.

Will Bayern be making any signings in Jan?