U*d sign Nani and Anderson

Fair point, I still think he'll go onto be a seriously good player. Just it maybe in Seria A, rather than the Premier League.

It's a shame you could live to regret that decision if you did let him go but maybe injuries and suspensions can give him a chance to sign next season.

Maybe let him go on loan for a full season like Bendtner did and see how he fairs?

Who Rossi?

We just sent him to Parma for 5 months. Scored 9 in 15 games and kept them up.

Rooney will become an attacking midfielder from the day I saw him play it was written in the stars.

Parks lives wrote:Who Rossi?

We just sent him to Parma for 5 months. Scored 9 in 15 games and kept them up.

Maybe a premiership club for a full season??

Maybe, though Nani may go back to Lisbon for a season according to some reports. Would free up a space and give Rossi a season with us to prove himself.

Parks lives wrote:Maybe, though Nani may go back to Lisbon for a season according to some reports. Would free up a space and give Rossi a season with us to prove himself.

He does play the same position as Rooney does though doesn't he?

Silver surfer wrote:What happened to all this potential we were hearing about?

Fergie must not be a fan.

If Rossi is good enough then there is no doubt that SAF will give him a chance in the first team.

Arsenal could have a similar problem next season with their forwards: Henry, RVP, Adebayor, Aliadiere, Walcott, Bendtner.

Aliadiere will be sold this Summer, there is no doubting that.

Walcott will probably remain a winger.

25.5 M Euros is a good fee. Nani is still pretty green in a footballing sense, so he'll have to work hard to make his mark at Utd.

The fans will have to give him time, which after Ronaldo, I'm sure they'll understand.

I dunno what this confusion is all about... looks like a simple case of succession planning and having quality squad options.... Nani becomes Giggs's understudy, and Anderson becomes Scholes understudy. And when required, SAF has more options on the bench!

Great moves!

Mihawkavelli wrote:

Tweedle wrote:They'll probably play a dynamic front 3 of Ronaldo, Rooney and Anderson, at a guess, with Scholes, Giggs, Carrick, hargreaves behind (3 of the 4) and Nani as back up for the front 3.


Where does this leave Rossi though?

Have Utd signed one too many here?

There is 2 ways to look at this


1. too many cooks spoil the broth

or

2. players get injured and the squad does not have the adequate strength in depth ... if SAF wants to fight on 2/3 fronts , like in 1999 .. hope players don't get injured and have the right balance and strength in depth .. so players can be rested and rotated , certain players would play in the FA Cup etc ..

But Scholes plays differently now than he has in previous seasons. He sits alot deeper, spraying the play and actually doing his fair share of defending as well.

Not sure Anderson will be doing that. I think he'll be used much further forward.

Carrick & Hargreaves are basically our Keane & Scholes replacements.

So Anderson work permit will be based on that he is an exceptional talent?

I'm in shock folks. Didn't see this one coming so soon! Guess this means that a striker is out of the equation now. I guess either Smith stays or Rooney rotates with Saha.

Alternatively I think we can sell Smith and Richardson and even Heinze to Middlesborough for Yak!

The way to think about this is to imagine Utd's squad in two years time (ie when Scholes and Giggs are too old).

On paper you'd imagine that it would be:

ronaldo----Carrick---Hargreaves---Nani

----------Rooney----Anderson--------

I honestly don't think they can work as a partnership though - its seems that the Anderson purchase was somewhat unneccesary - he's no Scholes and he's not a winger - he's a support forward - but Utd already haver three in Ronaldo, Rossi and Rooney.

The only other option is to have a dyanmic trio a la Barcelona of Anderson, Ronaldo and rooney with Nani-Hargreaves-Carrick behind taking up the roles of Xavi, Marques and Iniesta.

managers like rafa and jose will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of facing a team consisting of ronaldo, rooney, nani and anderson all together


clutches at straws

Hmm you mean pulling their hair out in frustration at all the diving...

COTR wrote:managers like rafa and jose will be rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of facing a team consisting of ronaldo, rooney, nani and anderson all together


clutches at straws

To be fair, they're four of Europe's hottest prospects - its a gamble - either it doesn't work THAT well, or its wet pants time

@Tweeds

It will be:

Carrick---Hargreaves

ronaldo------Anderson------Nani

--------------Rooney------------

It will work, although I was surprised by the Anderson signing. Maybe fergie is sick of getting knocked out of the CL by the best Brazilian players and still regrets missing out on Ronaldinho.

Tweedle wrote:The way to think about this is to imagine Utd's squad in two years time (ie when Scholes and Giggs are too old).

On paper you'd imagine that it would be:

ronaldo----Carrick---Hargreaves---Nani

----------Rooney----Anderson--------

I honestly don't think they can work as a partnership though - its seems that the Anderson purchase was somewhat unneccesary - he's no Scholes and he's not a winger - he's a support forward - but Utd already haver three in Ronaldo, Rossi and Rooney.

The only other option is to have a dyanmic trio a la Barcelona of Anderson, Ronaldo and rooney with Nani-Hargreaves-Carrick behind taking up the roles of Xavi, Marques and Iniesta.

They don't all have to start. Nani and Anderson could take a couple of years to reach there potential and by that time alot could change.

I think that team above is dying out for a natural striker so it's inevitable one will brought if not this summer, then next summer.

...........carrick...hargreaves
..................scholes
ronaldo.............................nani
..................rooney

this look pretty awesome. nani and anderson can fight it out for the other wing spot

playing them all together will be fine against derby and fulham but you would have to worry against the good managers who know how to counter attack properly. obviously a nice problem to have though

I dont think we need a striker, Ronaldo and Andersons attacking instinct is very high. They can all interchange positions and there will always be one player in a centre forward position.

Our game will be based on blistering free flowing counter attacking football. It wont be based on crossing the ball to a target man. How do you defend against 4 players, who constantly move around, who can all beat a player and create something out of nothing?

How clinical are all 4? They need 3 chances to stick away 1 goal. Great against small teams, will be beaten against Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

I'd say 2 from 3 in CM - Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves
Ronaldo on the right, Rooney on the left. Nani as back up to both.
Giggs or Anderson in the hole.
Then Saha or a new striker up top.

Probably -


--------------- Carrick ---- Hargreaves
---------------------- Anderson
------ Ronaldo --------------------------- Rooney
------------------------ Striker

With Fletcher, Scholes, Park, Giggs, Nani & Saha on the bench.


Probably means the end for Richardson, Smith and Rossi.

Rez wrote:@Tweeds

It will be:

Carrick---Hargreaves

ronaldo------Anderson------Nani

--------------Rooney------------

It will work, although I was surprised by the Anderson signing. Maybe fergie is sick of getting knocked out of the CL by the best Brazilian players and still regrets missing out on Ronaldinho.

It does seem somewhat bizarre. I can't see Rooney being able to play the lone striker role.

Is that it for transfers now?

robert wrote:How clinical are all 4? They need 3 chances to stick away 1 goal. Great against small teams, will be beaten against Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

I'd say Aerson is very much a system player. Don't see how he is going to fit in this team unless he replaces Rooney which isn't going to happen.

Silver surfer wrote:

robert wrote:How clinical are all 4? They need 3 chances to stick away 1 goal. Great against small teams, will be beaten against Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

:Ale: I'd say Aerson is very much a system player. Don't see how he is going to fit in this team unless he replaces Rooney which isn't going to happen.

A system player?

What system is that?

We had the most clincal striker in the world and we didnt win the league for 3 seasons. I see were you are coming from as Rooney and Ronaldo lack composure and clinical finishing in front of goal. Missing chances hasnt been our problem this season, it was bad defending or lack of a DMC.

I dont think there are any young fast strikers that are clinical in front of goal. Huntelaar is the only young striker who has the killer instinct in the penalty area, all the rest have similar shot to goal ratios as Rooney and ronaldo.

I think they can all create chances in a game, you cant double mark all of them and they can all beat a player very easily. If you have more than 1 or 2 players in a team that can beat a player, you will always create chances, we will have 4.

I remember Fergie in an interview after the Real game in 2003 saying that apart from Barthez the difference between the sides was that Real had players who can beat a player and united only had 1 (Giggs). So he tried to sign Ronaldinho 2 months later, to take our tally to two. He then tried to sign Robben to increase it to 3 (as we had Giggs and ronaldo).

With most teams deploying holding midfielders the transition period (when you get the ball of the opponent and go on a counter attack) is the most important aspecct of the modern game. If your attacking players are fast and can run with the ball, then your chances of scoring during the transition are very high.

Tweedle wrote:

Silver surfer wrote:

robert wrote:How clinical are all 4? They need 3 chances to stick away 1 goal. Great against small teams, will be beaten against Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

I'd say Aerson is very much a system player. Don't see how he is going to fit in this team unless he replaces Rooney which isn't going to happen.

A system player?

What system is that?

Well at Porto he was the AM out of the three central midfielders so he never really had to do any tracking back. It will be interesting to see where Fergie plays him.

I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm