U*d sign Nani and Anderson

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

Bitter gunner

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

it may be another rooney ronaldo case where it takes them three years to actually score a goal in europe or produce consistent form. im not overly worried about the signings to be honest. I think hargreaves will have a bigger impact on actually improving the team next year. it's the future when united will benefit from them


clutches at straws again

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

*their

I agree. It's a huge amount of money to spend on two players who are far from developed. The Mancs have just signed two young players for the future who each costed more individually than Liverpool's record signing. Scary!

...But saying that, with the inflated prices at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a major coup, even for that amount of money. If they both fulfil their potential, they'll be worth more than twice of what they were bought for.

Fey wrote:

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

Bitter gunner

Well hes right to an extent. You can guarantee that Queiroz orchestrated these moves because I doubt Fergie would have gone for them otherwise.

They are very raw but have great potential which can be exploited just like most of the Arsenal youngsters

Not worried about their ability, more about their adaptability. I also am comforted by the fact that they have Scholes and Giggs as a buffer for the next 2 seasons.

Fey wrote:

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

Bitter gunner

Have you seen them?

Anderson went missing verses us in the CL.

Haven't seen much of Nani but from youtube vids and the comments of the portugese he is apparantly a very raw talent.

Hardly bitter, just speaking the truth

Silver surfer wrote:

Fey wrote:

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

Bitter gunner

Well hes right to an extent. You can guarantee that Queiroz orchestrated these moves because I doubt Fergie would have gone for them otherwise.

So you think Fergie never heard of them or something?

They wont be instant superstars, which will be fine as we have Ronaldo, Rooney and Giggs who can carry them. Its not like we are in crisis and we have signed them as our saviours. There shouldnt be too much pressure on them to set a light the prem.

They have both played well in the CL, Anderson was awesome in the CL game I watched, earlier in the season. Nani has played well for Portugal, so they arent as raw as some suggest. I think they are more complete than Ronaldo was, when he first arrived.

Parks lives wrote:

Silver surfer wrote:

Fey wrote:

Tweedle wrote:I have to admit I haven't seen THAT much of Nani and what I've seen of Anderson has been in the CL where he hasn't been that impressive.

Are we talking defniate quality here?

From what I've seen of both they are pretty raw - they're passing isn't exactly top notch either - they're just impact players atm

Bitter gunner

Well hes right to an extent. You can guarantee that Queiroz orchestrated these moves because I doubt Fergie would have gone for them otherwise.

So you think Fergie never heard of them or something?

Never said that I just think that the prescene of Ronaldo there and Queiroz probably being the future manager helped this deal along.

Great moves by Man Utd, 2 very talented players, who could develop into world Class players, and after fat fergie developed Ronaldo, it is possible.

Rez wrote:They wont be instant superstars, which will be fine as we have Ronaldo, Rooney and Giggs who can carry them. Its not like we are in crisis and we have signed them as our saviours. There shouldnt be too much pressure on them to set a light the prem.

Exactly.

Scholes, Carrick
Ronaldo, Giggs, Rooney
Saha

If we started next season with that team would anyone complain? Still arguably our best team and all suited to the way we play.

Then bring the likes of Hargreaves, Nani & Anderson through over the season.

Vds - 2
neville - 0
rio - 30
vidic - 8
evra - 6
carrick - 18
hargreaves - 17
ronaldo - 12
nani - 17
anderson - 17
rooney 28

around 155 million

Are united trying to buy the title

MU fan just told me Sporting are MU feeder club...

In which case it's not that shocking.

We've had links with Sporting since before the Ronaldo deal.

Anderson has to wait for his Work Permit, in FM2007 it took me ages to get his work permit when i bought him...

I don't see anderson playing that much, being young and new to the league. Both him and nani will need a 1 season to acclimatise.

Problem with players like anderson, nani, cronaldo is that they don't track back, and whereas you could live with 1 player not doing that you couldn't play 3 of them. The other problem is that they are all young so when things are tough against a top opponent they can go missing like cronaldo went missing in all the big games this season except for roma.

Rafalution wrote:Anderson has to wait for his Work Permit, in FM2007 it took me ages to get his work permit when i bought him...

110% wrote:I don't see anderson playing that much, being young and new to the league. Both him and nani will need a 1 season to acclimatise.

Problem with players like anderson, nani, cronaldo is that they don't track back, and whereas you could live with 1 player not doing that you couldn't play 3 of them. The other problem is that they are all young so when things are tough against a top opponent they can go missing like cronaldo went missing in all the big games this season except for roma.

So all doom and gloom basically?

110% wrote:I don't see anderson playing that much, being young and new to the league. Both him and nani will need a 1 season to acclimatise.

Problem with players like anderson, nani, cronaldo is that they don't track back, and whereas you could live with 1 player not doing that you couldn't play 3 of them. The other problem is that they are all young so when things are tough against a top opponent they can go missing like cronaldo went missing in all the big games this season except for roma.

too true. We went over this earlier on when it looked like Utd were interested in Quaresma.

Utd will in future play two DMs in Carrick and Hargreaves then a dynamic front 4 of Nani, Anderson, Rooney and Ronaldo

110% wrote:I don't see anderson playing that much, being young and new to the league. Both him and nani will need a 1 season to acclimatise.

Problem with players like anderson, nani, cronaldo is that they don't track back, and whereas you could live with 1 player not doing that you couldn't play 3 of them. The other problem is that they are all young so when things are tough against a top opponent they can go missing like cronaldo went missing in all the big games this season except for roma.

well said

Parks lives wrote:

110% wrote:I don't see anderson playing that much, being young and new to the league. Both him and nani will need a 1 season to acclimatise.

Problem with players like anderson, nani, cronaldo is that they don't track back, and whereas you could live with 1 player not doing that you couldn't play 3 of them. The other problem is that they are all young so when things are tough against a top opponent they can go missing like cronaldo went missing in all the big games this season except for roma.

So all doom and gloom basically?

we've had the signing hype

now we have the backlash

with the truth as ever somewhere in between

So who reckons that both will be sold for half the price in two seasons?

Tweedle wrote:So who reckons that both will be sold for half the price in two seasons?

we have had no comment from T/S yet


he was hoping nani would move to spurs

Yeh I amused myself by making encouraging comments about that

Though fair play to him, deep down he thought it would have been an unrealistic target.

I'm surprised that Utd have managed to do pretty much all their transfer dealings before the end of May though! is that a new record?

Tweedle wrote:So who reckons that both will be sold for half the price in two seasons?

It's the numbers game though. If one of them ends up being like cronaldo then it will have been worth the risk.

The alternative scenario is that as flair players they find it too physical like reyes and want to go back.

Tweedle wrote:Yeh I amused myself by making encouraging comments about that

Though fair play to him, deep down he thought it would have been an unrealistic target.

I'm surprised that Utd have managed to do pretty much all their transfer dealings before the end of May though! is that a new record?

they have probably been working on them for ages and just had to wait until the season finished to conclude them

im not sure they have finished though. surely he will get a striker. unless of course he wants another season with saha and ole risking injury

Next we will see a thread saying are Nani and Anderson over priced and overrated?

@110%

Rooney is younger than Ronaldo and turned up in all the big games. Last season Ronaldo turned up in all the big games and Rooney didnt. This suggests that Rooney and Ronaldo play better when all the oppositions attention is on the other one. So next season the opposition will be occupied with Rooney and Ronaldo (they usually have two players marking them) so Nani/Anderson will have the freedom to do their stuff.

They are in the perfect climate to start at a big club. There is no pressure on them to deliver instantly and they are part of a winning team, surrounded by talented players. Look how well Messi has done, because Ronaldinho takes the pressure and attention of him.

So if they arent playing well, Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes can step up and deliver.

Oh United will be playing with Carrick and Hargreaves in midfield and Vidic and Ferdinand in defence. So defensively we should be stronger than this season.

@ COTR

They've spent over £50m. do they have enough money to buy a striker?

They've been linked with Eto'o in the papers

£48 million Tweedle.

Also the Hargreaves money was saved from last year.

Plus the likes of Heinze, Richardson, Smith and maybe 1 or 2 more squad players could raise around £15 million.

I can see a striker coming, though may mean the end of Rossi.

Tweedle wrote:@ COTR

They've spent over £50m. do they have enough money to buy a striker?

They've been linked with Eto'o in the papers

they operate in a different money league from us paupers tweeds

it's why they are top of the league




it's hard to rule them out of more signings though.

maybe this is why the glazers wanted out before all this money was spent