COPA AMERICA

Fey wrote:Why is Suriname not invited? Not good enough?

Makes more sense then Japan tbh.

Suriname would get crushed, not good enough. They can't even qualify to the WC out of Concacaf playing Canada and the like FFS!

fcb wrote:Japan? WTF?

Honduras and Mexico have been there before and they aren't CONMEBOL.

Personally, I would like to see any non-CONMEBOL berths go to teams that are still from America like USA, Mexico, Honduras.

Japan are quality - shouldn't be in it but its too good an opportunity to get some tough games as opposed to what they face in Asia.

What's up Peons!

Here you go. What a tournament!

Group A: Argentina, Colombia, Costa Rica, Bolivia.

Group B: Brasil, Paraguay, Ecuador, Venezuela.

Group C: Uruguay, Chile, México, Perú.

On to the quarterfinals and then some!

Mes Amis, ONE MONTH 'til Copa América kicks off!

Argentina has called up EVERYONE but Maradona and Di Stefano in order to FINALLY win one. It's now or never for the Argies, and it's at home.

Brasil will go all out to humiliate Argentina by winning Copa América in their own house. Uruguay may go far again, but let's see how they can handle losing to us to start things off.

Keep an eye on Perú, we are also throwing all the steak on the grill just like everyone else. I will be disappointed IF we don't reach at least the Semi-Final and finish in the top four.

It will certainly be impressive if Peru qualify from a group containing three World Cup teams.

Chile all the way for me!





If it won't be Chile im hoping it will be Columbia, Falcao is awesome and a likeble. Since the WC-qualifiers will be a non-event without Brazil im quite looking forward to this one.

I'm going for Chile as well... and Mexico.

Fey wrote:Chile all the way for me!





If it won't be Chile im hoping it will be Columbia, Falcao is awesome and a likeble. Since the WC-qualifiers will be a non-event without Brazil im quite looking forward to this one.

Tina Fey, what's up mi amigo Dutch! Good call on Chile. They could surprise since they may be more balanced with Borghi. It is the most competitive group. México will send their U23 team, but people fail to realize that México's best players are all under 23 years old. Keep an eye on us, Fey! you will like what you'll see just like in 1978 when we won our group and you came second.

Yes, Tina Fey! the day has arrived. Let the party begin. I'll be happy is it's half as good as the last edition which roughly translates to twice as good as the last Euros (which was enjoyable as well, wonder why the level of football goes up and the tournament itself is a lot better when England is not competing in the Euros or WC has to be said?

Love this tournament. Argentina up first on espn 1:30 a.m

Luis wrote:Love this tournament. Argentina up first on espn 1:30 a.m

That's a bit late for you guys eh!

Can't-miss matches: Argentina-Bolivia, Argentina-Colombia, Colombia-Bolivia, Brasil-Venezuela, Paraguay-Ecuador, Peru-Uruguay, Brasil-Paraguay oh fuck! JUST WATCH THE WHOLE THING IF YOU CAN!

Bit gutted I will miss the first week of this.

Vamos Ecuador !

Uruguay have to bring home the money

Bolivia, who haven't won a match since 2009, and haven't won an away game since 2007 are beating Argentina in Argentina ffs 15 mins left..

Kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun! What a finish!

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argentina ain't going to win even a micky mouse cup with that defense, its the easiest thing to do in football and they fail at it epically

BANG! Some start to the Copa América, eh!

Very impressed with Bolivia. The second half was INSANE! Argentina went all out in search of the equalizer, and Moreno in a quick Bolivan counter-attack with only Romero to beat, did his best Rooney/Owen impersonation...HE MISSED THE SITTER.

I'm just mentioning them "world class" players from England so that the ones who didn't watch this game, can visualize what happened.

Awesome goal by Agüero to tie this game. Bolivia had the chance to win this game, but Rooney erm Moreno missed the sitter FFS! It would've been Argentina 0-2 Bolivia, but didn't happen.

Folks! imagine Spain hosting the Euros, they're the favorites to win it at home, and England is game against them at the Bernabeu in the opening match of the tournament, taking the game to them in Spain. It ain't happening. Now imagine Spain being game against Argentina in Argentina, it ain't happening either.

Kudos to Bolivia. They were awesome tonight.

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This is why Barcelona wouldn't have it so easy in South America. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta...they all run circles around German and English defenders.

It's not even a "Argentina's system is not good for Messi" because Messi had acres of space in a couple occasions and he couldn't even beat ONE defender with his dribbling. He runs past the Bayern defense with ease, but can't fucking beat a Bolivian defender one-on-one with lots of space and momentum to maneuver.

Lucky Barcelona they play against Bayern and Manchester United. Just wait 'til they face Santos.

Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

Cambiasso-Mascherano-Banega

What a dreadful midfield

Does anyone other than Bluenine (and the Argentinian coach, apparently) actually rate Cambiasso?

While he's not that great, swapping him for Di Maria was clearly not the answer Argentina were looking for...

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Kroos wrote:MESSI

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This is why Barcelona wouldn't have it so easy in South America. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta...they all run circles around German and English defenders.

It's not even a "Argentina's system is not good for Messi" because Messi had acres of space in a couple occasions and he couldn't even beat ONE defender with his dribbling. He runs past the Bayern defense with ease, but can't fucking beat a Bolivian defender one-on-one with lots of space and momentum to maneuver.

Lucky Barcelona they play against Bayern and Manchester United. Just wait 'til they face Santos.

a bayern defence with breno-lell-demichelis-oddo and klinsi as coach, give me a break

messi shouldnt play as forward for argentina, they should play with a real striker (tevez, milito) upfront, because messi has not a complete team that can actual pass and create, when they play with 3 DM, while messi is also not the best in this area, hes better than nothing

also there back four, have to say argentina is a 2nd tier team these days

Juligen wrote:Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

yeh, I'm shocked. their coach must be horrible. no organization at all. how can a team with so many good players play so badly?

Mongrel Hawk wrote:

Juligen wrote:Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

yeh, I'm shocked. their coach must be horrible. no organization at all. how can a team with so many good players play so badly?

I think we need to question the "good players" bit, considering their results and doing a deeper analysis of their squads - they have great attackers, especially a huge depth in the "2nd striker" position, but no creative midfielders (at least until Pastore gains some top level experience), average defenders in all 4 positions, and no good goalkeepers.

Argentina

IMO they are even more overrated then Germany and more hyped then England! Great in friendlies sometimes, but when it really counts they bottle it, honestly in all my life I have never see them do anything, mind you im post-maradonna.

But everytime before a tournament they are rated insanely high. just before last WC, they barely made it ffs! IMO they need to win something fast otherwise those 2 WC's are uselees in my eyes as the two from Uruguay.

Still, good start to a tournament! I wish we could play on Suriname's behalf, we would so win this!

fcb wrote:

Mongrel Hawk wrote:

Juligen wrote:Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

yeh, I'm shocked. their coach must be horrible. no organization at all. how can a team with so many good players play so badly?

I think we need to question the "good players" bit, considering their results and doing a deeper analysis of their squads - they have great attackers, especially a huge depth in the "2nd striker" position, but no creative midfielders (at least until Pastore gains some top level experience), average defenders in all 4 positions, and no good goalkeepers.

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fcb wrote:

Mongrel Hawk wrote:

Juligen wrote:Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

yeh, I'm shocked. their coach must be horrible. no organization at all. how can a team with so many good players play so badly?

I think we need to question the "good players" bit, considering their results and doing a deeper analysis of their squads - they have great attackers, especially a huge depth in the "2nd striker" position, but no creative midfielders (at least until Pastore gains some top level experience), average defenders in all 4 positions, and no good goalkeepers.

Agreed. It's not just tactical shortcomings and an archaic gameplan, more so under Maradona than Batista actually, it's the lack of balance and depth on certain positions a far as the squad is concerned, too.

What the fuck was that Bolivia goal? High quality defending by Argentina

Messiah wrote:argentina ain't going to win even a micky mouse cup with that defense, its the easiest thing to do in football and they fail at it epically

Banega Superstar!

fcb wrote:

Mongrel Hawk wrote:

Juligen wrote:Good Lord, I thought this tropjy was in Argentina bag already. Nice to see they still play bad, so much talent, so badly used.

If we can repeat our performance against USA, the only game where Ganso, Neymar, Robinho and Pato played together we may have a really nice team.

yeh, I'm shocked. their coach must be horrible. no organization at all. how can a team with so many good players play so badly?

I think we need to question the "good players" bit, considering their results and doing a deeper analysis of their squads - they have great attackers, especially a huge depth in the "2nd striker" position, but no creative midfielders (at least until Pastore gains some top level experience), average defenders in all 4 positions, and no good goalkeepers.

alright, but an average team with some players like tevez and messi could do much better with some organization. this team could be very strong with a well organized defensive system playing in favour of a world class attack. they were playing bolivia at home, ffs!

Mongrel Hawk wrote:
alright, but an average team with some players like tevez and messi could do much better with some organization. this team could be very strong with a well organized defensive system playing in favour of a world class attack. they were playing bolivia at home, ffs!

Todo! I appreciate Argentina for what they represent in the history of football with two WC's, many Copa Américas, its clubs River, Boca, Independiente...but you must realize that Bolivia aren't the Bolivia of old times. They held you to a 0-0 draw playing in Brasil with only ten men the entire second half. They are tactically sound!

What tournament FFS! IF Colombia beats Costa Rica, suddenly the Argentina-Colombia is SUPER HUGE GAME

And, them Colombians are looking at Copa América just like us "we plan to play at least SIX MATCHES". Tough tough tough game for Argentina next. Where's Spain when Argentina need them?