La Segunda Division 2007/08

kas wrote:Tough to say anything about Barça B...they've made a few transfers, but are also losing a lot of experienced players who will now be loaned out, promoted to the first team, or moved on. And Guardiola is still an unknown. Let's wait and see how the season goes for them.

A bit crazy for the B team of a club Barca's size to be so far down in the league system when the likes of Malaga B and Levante B have looked so strong in recent years. What I meant is that there were rumors that Figueres were going to sell their place in segunda B to Barca....anything on that or has it all dies out?

Nah, that was just hypothesis I think. We did announce an agreement with UD Gramenet today, to take over their academy.

kas wrote:Nah, that was just hypothesis I think. We did announce an agreement with UD Gramenet today, to take over their academy.

Gramanet have been quite a handy team in recent seasons and up towards the play offs. So they will be a feeder team of sorts to Barca?

Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

Samba...

Have just seen that Celta have joined the race for Dani and a transfer could involve taking Baiano the other way. Location wise, we are more ideal and he has already stated that he would like wear yellow for 2007/08. But could you pull him away? It seems that Lopera is hoping he could be tempted.

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kas wrote:Nah, that was just hypothesis I think. We did announce an agreement with UD Gramenet today, to take over their academy.

Gramanet have been quite a handy team in recent seasons and up towards the play offs. So they will be a feeder team of sorts to Barca?

Yeah, but there will also be loanees going from Barcelona B (or lower, I presume) to them.

golsud wrote:Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

I mean seriously, this is just a further example of the $h!t that these new terms brought up by the LFP are going to cause. Not only does things like this f@ck around with local councils and stadium planners etc, but the fans! So, are they likely to stay in Figueres for this season Cule?

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golsud wrote:Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

I mean seriously, this is just a further example of the $h!t that these new terms brought up by the LFP are going to cause. Not only does things like this f@ck around with local councils and stadium planners etc, but the fans! So, are they likely to stay in Figueres for this season Cule?

By the looks of it yes. For the sake of football I hope they stay. A businesman cannot destroy a club with 88 years of history!

golsud wrote:

NCFC wrote:

golsud wrote:Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

I mean seriously, this is just a further example of the $h!t that these new terms brought up by the LFP are going to cause. Not only does things like this f@ck around with local councils and stadium planners etc, but the fans! So, are they likely to stay in Figueres for this season Cule?

By the looks of it yes. For the sake of football I hope they stay. A businesman cannot destroy a club with 88 years of history!

Would be far more controversial than the Granada issues as Figueres does as you say have some sort of history, that Ciudad Murcia lacked. Who was the Figueres owner who sold the club in the first place? He sounds like a wanker, it was him after all who offered the club to Barcelona. The fans are of course, fairly voiceless in it all.

NCFC wrote:Samba...

Have just seen that Celta have joined the race for Dani and a transfer could involve taking Baiano the other way. Location wise, we are more ideal and he has already stated that he would like wear yellow for 2007/08. But could you pull him away? It seems that Lopera is hoping he could be tempted.

Dani - the serial diver - from Betis? Not a chance if it includes Baiano. If Nene goes we could easily keep Baiano. Baiano will only go for something like 8-10million. BTW where did you hear this?

Samba de Baiano wrote:

NCFC wrote:Samba...

Have just seen that Celta have joined the race for Dani and a transfer could involve taking Baiano the other way. Location wise, we are more ideal and he has already stated that he would like wear yellow for 2007/08. But could you pull him away? It seems that Lopera is hoping he could be tempted.

Dani - the serial diver - from Betis? Not a chance if it includes Baiano. If Nene goes we could easily keep Baiano. Baiano will only go for something like 8-10million. BTW where did you hear this?

Yes, Dani dives, but he is always a serious threat in attack. Read something on Baiano over the weekend, not sure where exactly, trawling through rumour sites somewhere. Have just seen this on esecadizoe.com.....states that Betis could offer Dani and Fernando in exchange for Borja Oubina. The article does mention Baiano possibly leaving, but you don't feel this is likely?!

Article....

Dani Martín había declarado hace unos días que su intención era no hacer siquiera la pretemporada con el Betis y parece que lo ha conseguido.

El recién llegado técnico Héctor Cúper ha dado la lista de jugadores que se concentrarán en el stage que el equipo verdiblanco va a realizar en Montecastillo y en ella no se encuentra el delantero sevillano.

Una vez que esa reticencia por parte del Consejero Delegado Manuel Ruíz de Lopera a la hora de negociar su salida parece haberse disipado, el asunto no se termina de aclarar por parte del singular dirigente bético. Mientras ayer aseguraba en la presentación de Héctor Cúper que la preferencia a la hora de la salida de Dani sería el Cádiz CF, hoy nos sorprende una información llegada desde Vigo en las páginas del Diario AS en las que se asegura que Lopera ha ofirecido a Dani al Celta junto a Fernando para abaratar el fichaje de Borja Oubiña.

Dani Martín sonó como posible refuerzo para el Celta en temporadas anteriores y la más que probable salida de Baiano del conjunto celeste podría hacer que se viera con buenos ojos la incorporación del delantero bético.

Será cuestión de tiempo saber si la simpatía que Lopera dice tener por el Cádiz influirá definitivamente en la decisión que tome al respecto y Dani jugará de amarillo como él mismo ha declarado tantas veces que desea o todo quedará en palabras vacías y el ariete terminará como moneda de cambio en otro equipo.

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golsud wrote:

NCFC wrote:

golsud wrote:Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

I mean seriously, this is just a further example of the $h!t that these new terms brought up by the LFP are going to cause. Not only does things like this f@ck around with local councils and stadium planners etc, but the fans! So, are they likely to stay in Figueres for this season Cule?

By the looks of it yes. For the sake of football I hope they stay. A businesman cannot destroy a club with 88 years of history!

Would be far more controversial than the Granada issues as Figueres does as you say have some sort of history, that Ciudad Murcia lacked. Who was the Figueres owner who sold the club in the first place? He sounds like a wanker, it was him after all who offered the club to Barcelona. The fans are of course, fairly voiceless in it all.

Ciudad de Murcia did the same with a third division club frmo Murcia called Lorqui. They changed the name to Club Atletico Ciudad de Lorqui and changed the colours as well. I think once they get back to the second division they will move the club back to the city of Murcia.

Dunno who was the owner but Enric Flix, the owner of Miapuesta.com, bought Figueres. A victory for football if Figueres stays

Apparently Baldasano has resigned as president of Cadiz. Interested to hear ncfc's thoughts/insight on this.

golsud wrote:

NCFC wrote:

golsud wrote:

NCFC wrote:

golsud wrote:Miapuesta who are the owners of Figueres moved the club to Castelldefels (a small town near Barcelona made famous by the "neng"). But apparently the move has been denied by the spanish FA or someone governing body (can't remember who it was).

I mean seriously, this is just a further example of the $h!t that these new terms brought up by the LFP are going to cause. Not only does things like this f@ck around with local councils and stadium planners etc, but the fans! So, are they likely to stay in Figueres for this season Cule?

By the looks of it yes. For the sake of football I hope they stay. A businesman cannot destroy a club with 88 years of history!

Would be far more controversial than the Granada issues as Figueres does as you say have some sort of history, that Ciudad Murcia lacked. Who was the Figueres owner who sold the club in the first place? He sounds like a wanker, it was him after all who offered the club to Barcelona. The fans are of course, fairly voiceless in it all.

Ciudad de Murcia did the same with a third division club frmo Murcia called Lorqui. They changed the name to Club Atletico Ciudad de Lorqui and changed the colours as well. I think once they get back to the second division they will move the club back to the city of Murcia.

Dunno who was the owner but Enric Flix, the owner of Miapuesta.com, bought Figueres. A victory for football if Figueres stays

The delicate difference was that Lorqui were part of the third division or regionals in fact I seem to remember reading Ciudad only progressed to the thrid division in 2000 . Ciudad de Murcia were part of the Segunda division when they were bought out by Granada. Big difference. But still - the basic idea is the same and not good for football. I assume a similar thing occurred with Lorca, they progressed up the league from the regionals also after being founded in 2002. I am sure these rules that allow teams to move location have only just come in though? Were Lorqui located in Murcia itself?

Lets hope Figueres remain.

As for the situation at Cadiz Kas, its complicated and not good for the club one bit. Munoz could be back and Baldasano could also be president before the start of the season? Who knows. The club needs stability, and at the moment it is a mess. How long before Del Bosque jumps ship over the situation and we lose his influence? All is not well.

I beleive Lorqui is a small town located in the county of Murcia.

Talks over the Cadiz takeover break down yet again! Every day closer to the start of the season, every day more disruptive this becomes, especially considering that only two signings have been made and many have left since June. In other news we have already sold 11,000 season tickets, still high numbers for the segunda. This figure looks to creep forward to around the 15,000 mark before the start of the season.

- Granada 74's president goes on huger-strike in from of the town hall over their decision to not allow them to play in Cordoba.
- Baldasano now owns 51% of Cadiz
- Cadiz sign Yago from Celta
- Celta sign Pena from Villareal and Rubén from Racing Santander.
- Espanyol's Ito joins Cordoba

Good signings by Celta

Hmm. We'll see. I would have preferred if we went for Quique Alvarez rather than Pena as IMO he's better and a local lad.

Olympiakos have offered 5 million euros for Nene, would you be happy to see him leave for that price Samba. Your squad is slowly but surely being cut down nearly as much as La Real's. A difficult season ahead, I thought the likes of Nene might have stayed. It seems the three relegated clubs are getting towards being on around par with the segunda's top clubs.

Now it looks like they have allowed Figueres to move to Castelldefels

FIFA and UEFA are trying to relegate Granada 74.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/2a_division/granada_74/es/desarrollo/1025252.html

And the Spanish Football Federation have refused to send a referee to the friendly with Almeria.

Málaga will do v little saw them v Marbella last Saturday and they were v poor, and it seems they weren't much better v Poli Ejido on Wednesday although both games ended 0-0 with Malaga winning on pens.

Shame they weren't relegated last season. They have chopped and changed a bit this summer, but I think mid table for the malaguistas.

Samba de Baiano wrote:FIFA and UEFA are trying to relegate Granada 74.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/2a_division/granada_74/es/desarrollo/1025252.html

And the Spanish Football Federation have refused to send a referee to the friendly with Almeria.

Well its all good, because basically, this could force the LFP into a change so that a case like this can never reoccur. Shame about Figueres also Cule, but it seems to have been a bit overshadowed by this due to the fact this is at a higher level. Madridistas would sure be happy if this went through and they were to be relegated.

The thread hasn't been updated recently, so thought I'd give a run down of the main headlines.

First of all, Granada 74 were given clearance to play the opening weekend of the season. However, it was far from the best start for the newly located club as they went down 2-0 in Cadiz, to the also newly owned Cadiz. Lucas Lobos and Enrique showing their goals from midfield will be crucial fr los amarillos throughout the season.

The only relegated club to get off to a positive start was Nastic, a goal in either half fighting of the challenge of a now weak Alaves team, compared with this time last season. El Celta managed a draw against newly promoted Cordoba, two points dropped, whlst La Real went down 0-2 to Castellon at Anoeta - the worst possibe start for Chris Coleman.

The biggest win of the week was in Gijon, as local side Sporting breezed aside Poli Ejido 4-0, finally good times dawning for the "sleeping giant"?

Heard Cadiz were v. good.

For the majority of time it seemed like so many games last season we were not going to score by the sounds of things, hoards of chances. But Lobos and Enrique got the job done eventually. Quietly confident for this season.

Sociedad picked up their first points of the campaign in the derby against Eibar, whilst Celta still look for the first win after going down in Castellon. So all in all, Castellon are the very early pace setters.

Just seen the highlights - and their first goal in particular looked very impressive. Alaves are currently 0-0 with Malaga - both teams looking for a huge improvement on last season. Game of the day sees Cadiz travel to the Canaries, against what I believe to be a strong Tenerife team this season after some good summer additions and some good form at the back end of last season. Will be a very competitive game.

Don't let the result fool you, Castellon were $h!t. We dominated for large periods of the game and then capitulated from two set pieces - same problems as last year.