Ryan Babel signs 5 year deal at Liverpool joined by Benayoun

S4P2 wrote:However, England lost in Gerrard's major tournament debut match. In fact, I believe he was given an assist for the winning goal.

Pretty sure that was all Heskey's & James' fault

My $0.02:

-----------------------------------Reina
G.Neville-------------------Rio------------Carragher--------------Evra

Gerrard-----------------Mascherano--------Scholes------------C.Ronaldo

---------------------------Rooney------------Saha

11 Berbatov's will take care of this lot easily...

I think Torres will be better than Saha in the coming years.

That's not hard to do, all he has to do is play more than 20 matches a seaon.

In all seriousness though, yes he should be better than Saha ultimately.

De Guzman wrote:Just the one for his technique??



Let's face it he is 20 and most 8 year olds at his previous club are far more skilled. Babel is the most unskilled attacking player Ajax ever had. It's far too late to get his skills to an acceptable level.

Furthermore he certainly will not get enough playing time to improve.

The transferfee is ridiculous for a player that's only useful as a sub. Something he's actually good at. If nothing else works, you can always count on Babel's unpredictability. Nobody knows what Babel is going to do next not even Ryan himself. He's constantly making up for his poor previous touch (which made the ball go to an unobvious spot) until he ends up up just outside of the box (to the left of goal) and shoots (he's only good at that one shot, coming in from the left) and scores.

so true

Batman wrote:I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.

Batman wrote:

McCarthy > Torres - in terms of finishing

Batman is always right

The Easter Bunny wrote:

Batman wrote:I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.

Batman wrote:

McCarthy > Torres - in terms of finishing

Batman is always right

I used to think Rafa was a good manager back then. Rafa has wasted a lot of attacking players.

Batman wrote:

The Easter Bunny wrote:

Batman wrote:I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.

Batman wrote:

McCarthy > Torres - in terms of finishing

Batman is always right

I used to think Rafa was a good manager back then. Rafa has wasted a lot of attacking players.

Nani, Forlan, Veron, Berbatov ........... Dong, Manucho

That's about £4 billion for you right there Batman

Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Dong and Manucho were signed for marketing reasons

Nani, Forlan, Veron and Berbatov all have something that Gerrard doesn't.

A Premier league winners medal.

COTR wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Who?

recently Benayoun has been playing LW

Batman wrote:Dong and Manucho were signed for marketing reasons

Nani, Forlan, Veron and Berbatov all have something that Gerrard doesn't.

A Premier league winners medal.

Ironically, i actually found that quite amusing!

COTR wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Sums up Liverpool fan attitude perfectly

1) you *don't* have a good one

2) you don't need a brilliant one, a good one who fits the team/tactics is much more important.

Axeslammer wrote:

COTR wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Sums up Liverpool fan attitude perfectly

1) you *don't* have a good one

2) you don't need a brilliant one, a good one who fits the team/tactics is much more important.

So Liverpool fans overrate some of their own players.

Thank god some people are objective....

Axeslammer wrote:

COTR wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Sums up Liverpool fan attitude perfectly

1) you *don't* have a good one

2) you don't need a brilliant one, a good one who fits the team/tactics is much more important.

We do have a good one axe but thanks for letting me know your opinion anyway

They just need one who can show up in the 2nd half of the season when Riera exhausts himself into hibernation.

Super Laudrup wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

COTR wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Today or tomorrow Pranjic will be confirmed and then you'll finally have a good LM

We already have a good one. We need a brilliant one

Sums up Liverpool fan attitude perfectly

1) you *don't* have a good one

2) you don't need a brilliant one, a good one who fits the team/tactics is much more important.

So Liverpool fans overrate some of their own players.

Thank god some people are objective....

Pranjic is a bit too light for the EPL I reckon. Good player...but to go from Heerenveen to Liverpool..then again Hypia came from Willem 2 and is a massive pool legend now!

is he better than Park?

Batman wrote:is he better than Park?

I do think Pranjic is better than EPL Park.

(Park under Hiddink is a completely different player, just like Alex for example)

Nobody is better then Park!

Except maybe Kuyt.



And obviously Essien.

Is Essien better than Kuyt though?

I imagine some sort of poll could settle that issue.

Hmmmm...Kuyt edges it, cause he is never injured!

Babel considers Reds exit

Unsettled Liverpool winger Ryan Babel has revealed he could leave in January if he fails to establish himself in Rafa Benitez's plans.

Babel is unhappy with his lack of first-team opportunities with the 22-year-old failing to hold down a place in the starting XI.

The Dutchman has been forced to content himself with a bit-part role at Anfield and he plans to hold talks with Benitez before the transfer window reopens in January to resolve his future.

"I have tried to talk to the manager but it isn't of any use. I couldn't really do anything with the feedback Benitez gave me," Babel is quoted as saying in The Sun.

"We have agreed to look at my situation in the winter. If there's no improvement then, I have to be honest, I want to be somewhere else.

"I don't play a lot so I can't be happy and I can't cheer out loud. Sometimes I wonder how long I can sustain it but I will fight for my position - what else can I do?"

Babel, who will miss Tuesday's vital Champions League trip to Debrecen through injury, is surprised he has not been afforded more chances in the side after impressing in his debut season at Anfield.

"Isn't it unbelievable that in my first year I got chosen as Talent of the Year? And a season later I hardly play and without getting a proper chance."

Babel, who represented Holland in Beijing last summer, added: "I don't know if it has anything to do with my little trip to the Olympics. I know the manager wanted me to stay."

Confidence

However, the 22-year-old does not think Benitez has a grudge against him.

Babel explained: "I really don't believe he is trying to get back at me. Every time me or my agent (Willie Haatrecht) have a chat with him he stresses I can't leave and he believes in me. We have to trust he is telling the truth. Saying it is different to showing it."

Babel has confidence in his own ability and still believes he can make the right impression in a Liverpool shirt.

He added: "I have shown I can do it plenty of times. I know I could be further in my career but if nobody helps you, if they don't make it easier for you, then it is difficult."

MadVillain wrote:"Isn't it unbelievable that in my first year I got chosen as Talent of the Year? "

Yes, yes it is.

debaser wrote:

MadVillain wrote:"Isn't it unbelievable that in my first year I got chosen as Talent of the Year? "

Yes, yes it is.

read about this today, always over exaggerated in the paper.

I want Babel to stay, and he should be played more by Rafa.

debaser wrote:

MadVillain wrote:"Isn't it unbelievable that in my first year I got chosen as Talent of the Year? "

Yes, yes it is.

It's babelfished (how aptly named) from a Dutch interview : the "unbelievable" should be placed in the second sentence...

Babel is clearly trying to force his way out though.

(stupid move : sub at Liverpool is defo his ceiling)

If those quotes are direct then Babel needs to shut the fuck up. Wah wah I don't get played, maybe it's because when you do play more often than not you're utter garbage.