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    Ryan Babel signs 5 year deal at Liverpool joined by Benayoun

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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:05 pm

    All foreign imports carry risk, there is no way to know if Torres and Babel will adapt to the premiership, as we have no idea whether Da Silva will, there is no gurantee either that Anderson or Nani will settle as well as Ronaldo has.


    The truth is, untill we watch them play and see how the fit into their new clubs, we won't be able to say whos signed the best players at the best value....

    I'd not like to comment on which ones will suceed because the vast majority of the foriegn players who have come in, have the talent for sure to make big impacts for any of the clubs.

    I personally think Newcastle have been pretty shrewd in the market, with good purchases that will help the team (specifically defensively) with Owen, Martins and now Viduka all fit and vying for places, they will certainly find the net.
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:05 pm

    The Hitman™️ wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:
    £11m for Berbatov was steep, but not ridiculous.

    In comparism to Kuyt, It was like going to Del Boy's stall and finding a product from Harrods for sale! cyclops Razz

    No idea what that means, but if you imply Kuyt and Berbatov are in the same price-bracket then I agree ok
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:07 pm

    I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.
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    Post by COTR Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:07 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    Luis wrote:Simao Very Happy

    Heinze Cool

    Depression if it is

    As long as rafa doesn't play him at left back I can survive



    As far as im aware babel's fee involves a lot of add ons so we'll only pay the full amount if he is a success. I read it was 8 million straight up rising to 12 with the add ons. it could be bullshit but it's more likely than us paying the full amount up front
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    Post by Calidad Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:11 pm

    Luis wrote:we've spent

    20 on Torres
    7 on Lucas
    4 on Benayoun
    10 on Babel

    41 mil

    and sold

    Bellamy 8 mil
    Cisse 6 mil (probably)
    garcia 3 mil
    pongolle 3 mil

    20 mil

    so 21 million expenditure

    Leto also who was aoubt £2 million, and you've bought that Bulgarian GK. Not to mention all the youngsters Pool are snapping up. Proably amouts to another 2-3 million as welll.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:12 pm

    Batman wrote:I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.
    He needs another to improve his finishing. ok

    It shows his determination as a player, but it does show he is hardly naturally talented.
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:15 pm

    Cesc wrote:
    Batman wrote:I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.
    He needs another to improve his finishing. ok

    It shows his determination as a player, but it does show he is hardly naturally talented.

    I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.
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    Post by Tom Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:15 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Luis wrote:I'd prefer our signing's to yours, but thats just me, I think in terms of competing with United and Chelsea next season we've made the better purchases thus far

    Clearly. You've spent almost £50m to our £6m!

    I'm sure there will be at least a couple more signings for us, especially if we sell Ljungberg
    same for chelsea!! We've only spent 13.5!! Wankers.
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    Post by Calidad Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:16 pm

    Batman wrote:
    Cesc wrote:
    Batman wrote:I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.
    He needs another to improve his finishing. ok

    It shows his determination as a player, but it does show he is hardly naturally talented.

    I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.

    He reminds me of a lot of the African players on the market at the moment. Technically raw, but good athletes.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:38 pm

    Batman wrote:I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.

    This 2 coach thing is crying out for a joke....
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    Post by Fey Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:44 pm

    Well done Liverpool....you just bought yourself not a winger nor a striker. But pacey Ryan"hipshot" Babel!!!!

    I dont know what is worse the ridiculous amount of money for Torres or the ridiculous amount of money for Babe-L Erm


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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:45 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Cesc wrote:
    Batman wrote:I was listening to the radio earlier and a dutch journalist on there said that Babel has got him self a two private coaches, one to imrpove his technique because he knew it was a weakness in his game and another coach to imrpove his running style.
    He needs another to improve his finishing. ok

    It shows his determination as a player, but it does show he is hardly naturally talented.

    I think some people are to harsh on him, he is still only 20 years old. But has played for Holland and has Champions League experience. In 3 years time i think he will have improved alot as a player.

    He reminds me of a lot of the African players on the market at the moment. Technically raw, but good athletes.

    Babel = The next Henry ok

    A couple of knock & run goals and some good strikes fom distance & we'll be talking about his "world-beating skill".


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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:46 pm

    Henry has more technique in his left wrist than Babel has in his entire body
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    Post by Fey Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:47 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Henry has more technique in his left wrist than Babel has in his entire body

    Both are two very average players!
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    Post by Luis Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:48 pm

    Tweedle how are you an expert on Babel? did you see him more than most of us last season?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:48 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Henry has more technique in his left wrist than Babel has in his entire body

    After working at it.

    Babel can be the same.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:49 pm

    Luis wrote:Tweedle how are you an expert on Babel? did you see him more than most of us last season?

    I'm no expert.

    But do you honestly think that he'll be comparable for Liverpool to Henry for Arsenal?
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    Post by Luis Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:51 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Luis wrote:Tweedle how are you an expert on Babel? did you see him more than most of us last season?

    I'm no expert.

    But do you honestly think that he'll be comparable for Liverpool to Henry for Arsenal?

    Not right now, he's 20 scratch and he's Dutch scratch and he's not a natural striker scratch
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:53 pm

    Just the one for his technique??

    Very Happy

    Let's face it he is 20 and most 8 year olds at his previous club are far more skilled. Babel is the most unskilled attacking player Ajax ever had. It's far too late to get his skills to an acceptable level.

    Furthermore he certainly will not get enough playing time to improve.

    The transferfee is ridiculous for a player that's only useful as a sub. Something he's actually good at. If nothing else works, you can always count on Babel's unpredictability. Nobody knows what Babel is going to do next not even Ryan himself. He's constantly making up for his poor previous touch (which made the ball go to an unobvious spot) until he ends up up just outside of the box (to the left of goal) and shoots (he's only good at that one shot, coming in from the left) and scores.
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    Post by Liverpool 0 - 1 Man U Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:53 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Luis wrote:Tweedle how are you an expert on Babel? did you see him more than most of us last season?

    I'm no expert.

    But do you honestly think that he'll be comparable for Liverpool to Henry for Arsenal?

    Not right now, he's 20 scratch and he's Dutch scratch and he's not a natural striker scratch

    Neither was Henry of course.
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    Post by Fey Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:54 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4SvCFKCDMw

    For the islanders Laughing
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:55 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Luis wrote:Tweedle how are you an expert on Babel? did you see him more than most of us last season?

    I'm no expert.

    But do you honestly think that he'll be comparable for Liverpool to Henry for Arsenal?

    Not right now, he's 20 scratch and he's Dutch scratch and he's not a natural striker scratch

    Before Henry moved to Arsenal he'd scored goals at a World Cup and scored vital goals for Monaco in the CL.

    + despite TS's agendas he has very good technique
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    Post by Luis Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:57 pm

    But can Henry Rap? Smile

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz6Sb9AgWGM&mode=related&search=
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 pm

    Luis wrote:But can Henry Rap? :)

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz6Sb9AgWGM&mode=related&search=


    Doubtful. Maybe thats why you spent £6m too much on him. He'll fill the stadiums on non match days with his MCing
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    Post by Luis Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:02 pm

    I reckon we'll get him for about 10 million pounds, why would rafa spend much more on him?
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    Post by Calidad Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:03 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:Just the one for his technique??

    Very Happy

    Let's face it he is 20 and most 8 year olds at his previous club are far more skilled. Babel is the most unskilled attacking player Ajax ever had. It's far too late to get his skills to an acceptable level.

    Furthermore he certainly will not get enough playing time to improve.

    The transferfee is ridiculous for a player that's only useful as a sub. Something he's actually good at. If nothing else works, you can always count on Babel's unpredictability. Nobody knows what Babel is going to do next not even Ryan himself. He's constantly making up for his poor previous touch (which made the ball go to an unobvious spot) until he ends up up just outside of the box (to the left of goal) and shoots (he's only good at that one shot, coming in from the left) and scores.

    That's gotta be one of the most hilarious descriptions I've ever seen for a player. Laugh
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    Post by Guest Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:04 pm

    Luis wrote:But can Henry Rap? Smile

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz6Sb9AgWGM&mode=related&search=


    Great, we've signed a rapping idiot. He better be good at football!
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:23 pm

    henry has got more finesse in his game than babel, but they've got alot of similarities: same built, both are right footed players that like cutting in from the left, they play best when given free role in attack( they are not wingers nor out an out strikers) etc
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:43 pm

    At least Agooner sensed I was on the Wind-Up. Razz
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:54 pm

    Babel>>Berbatov

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