Allardyce explains Dyer decision

Allardyce explains Dyer decision
Kieron Dyer
Dyer appears to be set to stay in the north-east
Newcastle manager Sam Allardyce has revealed Kieron Dyer's move to West Ham collapsed after the Hammers refused to pay an "escalated" fee of £8m.

The Magpies had accepted a bid of £6m for the player but increased the amount they wanted for the 28-year-old to a fee thought to be in the region of £8m.

"In the end, we decided Kieron was undervalued," said Allardyce.

"We escalated the valuation to what we thought was realistic and West Ham did not want to roll with it."

Dyer had agreed personal terms and passed a medical at the London club.


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But West Ham boss Alan Curbishley said on Saturday that the deal "was pulled at the 11th hour by Newcastle and there's not much we can do about that".

Newcastle's re-evaluation of Dyer angered Curbishley, who said on Saturday that the transfer was "definitely off".

But Allardyce said he was "more upset" than West Ham about the collapse of the deal.

"Why? That is confidential," added Allardyce.

"Kieron is back with us, a top player with a squad who are growing.

"Will it be difficult for Kieron? It's life, isn't it? He has got a contract. You sign it. The length of the contract means you are employed by an employer, something happens, it doesn't work, you come back and get on with it.

"If anything else happens in terms of West Ham increasing their offer, then great. If they don't then clearly they don't value him as highly as we do."

what a wanker

Absolute c**t. As if Dyer is going to go back there and carry on as normal

So much for taking his personal life into account eh? Fat wanker. Especially as you already agreed a £6m fee.

Maybe after he paid 6 million for smith, he suddenly thought that can't be a 6 million player as we are about to sell dyer for that and increased the price

yeah, he makes it sound as if Dyer doesn't mind staying, and nice sig by the way.

I have a feeling something will go through closer to deadline day.

Maybe both clubs can come to another solution.

Di Canio Is A God wrote:yeah, he makes it sound as if Dyer doesn't mind staying, and nice sig by the way.

Cheers

@Cesc-I still feel it will happen, simply as Dyer cannot go back to Newcastle. As Bobkat (Di Canio) says...he makes it sound like Dyer doesn't mind going back...which is absolute bullshit.

I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

Fat Sam is such a moaning c**t, he is a good boss but im very glad that we didnt get him.

L.r.d wrote:I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

Dyer was ready to train with us too...it's only when we went to complete the deal they said No. It's disgraceful behaviour. If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t in training and cause friction or simply refuse and make a big fuss.

Usually that would be the wrong thing to do...but Newcastle's actions here would would be on the same scale of unprofessionalism.

L.r.d wrote:I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

I think it might have to do wit buying Smith for 6m and then wanting more money at the last moment.
Or the Parker transfer didn't go smoothly (for Newcastle) and they wanted to spice things up a little.

My guess is that West Ham will buy him anyway before the end of the transfer period. West Ham need Dyer more than they need a petty squable becaus ethey need to climb the ranks fast.
And more than that West Ham have the money to afford him anyway. Which perhaps might be the same reason why Newcastle are being difficult about this.

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:

L.r.d wrote:I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

Dyer was ready to train with us too...it's only when we went to complete the deal they said No. It's disgraceful behaviour. If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t in training and cause friction or simply refuse and make a big fuss.

Usually that would be the wrong thing to do...but Newcastle's actions here would would be on the same scale of unprofessionalism.

here here! make the bastards regret it haha

DD wrote:

L.r.d wrote:I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

I think it might have to do wit buying Smith for 6m and then wanting more money at the last moment.
Or the Parker transfer didn't go smoothly (for Newcastle) and they wanted to spice things up a little.

My guess is that West Ham will buy him anyway before the end of the transfer period. West Ham need Dyer more than they need a petty squable becaus ethey need to climb the ranks fast.
And more than that West Ham have the money to afford him anyway. Which perhaps might be the same reason why Newcastle are being difficult about this.

I think we'll go else where, we won't allow teams to push us around like that.

Di Canio Is A God wrote:

DD wrote:

L.r.d wrote:I can understand him changing his mind and wanting to keep Dyer for footballing reasons. But you cant agree a fee let him have a medical agree terms, then say oh no we want more money, very unprofessional

I think it might have to do wit buying Smith for 6m and then wanting more money at the last moment.
Or the Parker transfer didn't go smoothly (for Newcastle) and they wanted to spice things up a little.

My guess is that West Ham will buy him anyway before the end of the transfer period. West Ham need Dyer more than they need a petty squable becaus ethey need to climb the ranks fast.
And more than that West Ham have the money to afford him anyway. Which perhaps might be the same reason why Newcastle are being difficult about this.

I think we'll go else where, we won't allow teams to push us around like that.

Exactly right...there is no way we will pay what they want now. If they asked for £7m in the first place then I feel me may have agreed to it. But not £8m. At the end of the day Newcastle are now stuck with a player who does not want to play for them. They are hurting themselves more than they are hurting us. We'll go and buy someone else...not that difficult.

ayee west ham can be considered a big club again now made some very productive signings dam right you don't need to be pushed around by moaning c**ts like big sam lol

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:
Dyer was ready to train with us too...it's only when we went to complete the deal they said No. It's disgraceful behaviour. If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t in training and cause friction or simply refuse and make a big fuss.

Usually that would be the wrong thing to do...but Newcastle's actions here would would be on the same scale of unprofessionalism.

You would? You'd destroy Newcastle's season though.

Puro wrote:

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:
Dyer was ready to train with us too...it's only when we went to complete the deal they said No. It's disgraceful behaviour. If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t in training and cause friction or simply refuse and make a big fuss.

Usually that would be the wrong thing to do...but Newcastle's actions here would would be on the same scale of unprofessionalism.

You would? You'd destroy Newcastle's season though.

I wish he did, they don't deserve a good season if they're going to be such big c*nts

Puro wrote:

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:
Dyer was ready to train with us too...it's only when we went to complete the deal they said No. It's disgraceful behaviour. If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t in training and cause friction or simply refuse and make a big fuss.

Usually that would be the wrong thing to do...but Newcastle's actions here would would be on the same scale of unprofessionalism.

You would? You'd destroy Newcastle's season though.

It's not right Puro. Dyer wanted to leave. Allardyce said he could. We agreed on a £6m fee. It was about to be completed and they wreck the deal. Not even for real footballing reasons. They just want more money.

it would be brilliant if he did not turn up and everything but he a long servant of newcastle so i doubt it

SteGavin wrote:it would be brilliant if he did not turn up and everything but he a long servant of newcastle so i doubt it

He has to be careful...just incase he does have to stay there. As I say I would have said pay £7m for him in the first place as he's a very good player. But not now. If we back down to them then other clubs will do it us. We have to show we won't be treated like that. Newcastle are not making themselves the most attractive side to do business wth either.

yeah, I think people will tend to think twice before doing business with them

Di Canio Is A God wrote:yeah, I think people will tend to think twice before doing business with them

Also...if we now go back and pay what they want for Dyer. Then when we bid £5m for Shorey and the deal is nearly done...Reading could say "No, we want £6m" Barcelona could say "No we want an extra £2m for Gudjohnsen"

Di Canio Is A God wrote:I wish he did, they don't deserve a good season if they're going to be such big c*nts

I haven't followed this Dyer deal, but yes, it sounds like Fat Sam's being a twat offering Dyer for one specific amount and then refusing to sell at the last moment.

You may get your wish after all now that Dyer's name's been tossed around back and forth and nothing happens.

Yeah, we're going to make sure we don't get pushed around.

Freddie Ljungberg wrote: If I was Dyer I would be a complete c**t

How would they tell the difference?

Shame he's not going to be reunited with Bowyer.

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:
It's not right Puro. Dyer wanted to leave. Allardyce said he could. We agreed on a £6m fee. It was about to be completed and they wreck the deal. Not even for real footballing reasons. They just want more money.

I agree with you. Fat Sam is acting like a c**t here. IF what you guys are saying is correct.

Puro wrote:

Di Canio Is A God wrote:I wish he did, they don't deserve a good season if they're going to be such big c*nts

I haven't followed this Dyer deal, but yes, it sounds like Fat Sam's being a twat offering Dyer for one specific amount and then refusing to sell at the last moment.

You may get your wish after all now that Dyer's name's been tossed around back and forth and nothing happens.

It is isn't sam's fault puro

the board probably control these things

Sam no doubt is just desperate to keep a quality player in his squad so will be delighted with the news

COTR wrote:

Puro wrote:

Di Canio Is A God wrote:I wish he did, they don't deserve a good season if they're going to be such big c*nts

I haven't followed this Dyer deal, but yes, it sounds like Fat Sam's being a twat offering Dyer for one specific amount and then refusing to sell at the last moment.

You may get your wish after all now that Dyer's name's been tossed around back and forth and nothing happens.

It is isn't sam's fault puro

the board probably control these things

Sam no doubt is just desperate to keep a quality player in his squad so will be delighted with the news

Dyer wants to leave...the fans hate him....they've abused him and his home...the club just wrecked the move he wanted.

Yeah...Dyer will go straight back into the team

He's not going to be a happy camper

Football fans are a fickle bunch

if he scores a hat trick next week they will soon love him again