Barcelona vs Man United

L r d wrote:

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:

No ref is going to give a penalty when a player continues in that position. He fucked the oppitunity up. Would have been a travesty if he gave the penalty anyway, after bottling a second one for the red wiz

You got one when ronaldo headed it against milito who was a full 2 milimetres away from him

And you want another for a 50/50 challenge in which ronaldo fell over because he was a cheating c**t ?

His hands were way over his head. Blatant pen. Not only was the Marques incident a 100% pen, he would have been sent off. The replay clearly shows Marques crash into him, it wasnt a dive, he simply went down under the challenge.

if I run into a wall whose fault is it if I'm hurt? Mine or the walls?

Puro wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

What about Abidal on Ronaldo, lets really test that bias.

IF you're gonna call that a PK, then you MUST call the one for Iniesta as well, the one Evra barely made contact.

WTF! The Mancs were so SHITE... an UNFIT, SHORTHANDED, OUT OF SYNC Barça made Manchester United look like a minnow football team, and you want all the penalties go Fergie's way?

This ain't the EPL you know!

We were shite, but there were 2 blatant penalties, and one debateable for a possible third.

We didn't deserve to win at all, but just saying how it was.

COTR wrote:

Puro wrote:

TM wrote:@ Puro

It's the truth TM! ONLY Real Madrid go toe to toe against Barça with perhaps Milan also taking their chances mixing it up with the Catalans although they only do it in stages/phases. ONLY Real Madrid go mano a mano against Barça the WHOLE GAME! All the rest even the 'big clubs' are SCARED of Barça, that's why they park their bus, you witnessed that tonight.

I don't think united wanted to park the bus

They were just so terrible, they could not get close to the ball so spent the whole game chasing shadows in their own half

Made a mistake by playing Rooney out wide. Rooney is an amazing if unconventional TM. He would have killed these $h!t defenders had he played in the center. In fact when he move to the center ManU actually strung a few passes until the great DLP hoofed the ball away. And as bad as ManU were when he was on , they were still worse when he left.

Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:

No ref is going to give a penalty when a player continues in that position. He fucked the oppitunity up. Would have been a travesty if he gave the penalty anyway, after bottling a second one for the red wiz

You got one when ronaldo headed it against milito who was a full 2 milimetres away from him

And you want another for a 50/50 challenge in which ronaldo fell over because he was a cheating c**t ?

His hands were way over his head. Blatant pen. Not only was the Marques incident a 100% pen, he would have been sent off. The replay clearly shows Marques crash into him, it wasnt a dive, he simply went down under the challenge.

if I run into a wall whose fault is it if I'm hurt? Mine or the walls?

Ronaldo is a wall?

L r d wrote:

Puro wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

What about Abidal on Ronaldo, lets really test that bias.

IF you're gonna call that a PK, then you MUST call the one for Iniesta as well, the one Evra barely made contact.

WTF! The Mancs were so SHITE... an UNFIT, SHORTHANDED, OUT OF SYNC Barça made Manchester United look like a minnow football team, and you want all the penalties go Fergie's way?

This ain't the EPL you know!

We were shite, but there were 2 blatant penalties, and one debateable for a possible third.

We didn't deserve to win at all, but just saying how it was.

Remember Lrd that this is only in Lrdland

Come back to reality if you want the rest of us to join in

LOL, I am starting to think we will see Barcelona and Chelsea AGAIN in the CL

Is it only in CotR land that the first penalty was a bad decision?

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:

Puro wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

What about Abidal on Ronaldo, lets really test that bias.

IF you're gonna call that a PK, then you MUST call the one for Iniesta as well, the one Evra barely made contact.

WTF! The Mancs were so SHITE... an UNFIT, SHORTHANDED, OUT OF SYNC Barça made Manchester United look like a minnow football team, and you want all the penalties go Fergie's way?

This ain't the EPL you know!

We were shite, but there were 2 blatant penalties, and one debateable for a possible third.

We didn't deserve to win at all, but just saying how it was.

Remember Lrd that this is only in Lrdland

Come back to reality if you want the rest of us to join in

Yeah good one COTR

Used to love this land all to myself. Will you help me evict sky sports?

In Fey land its was just one big stick with $h!t on it.

Juligen wrote:LOL, I am starting to think we will see Barcelona and Chelsea AGAIN in the CL

The man u chelsea option doesn't bear thinking about

Did you see THAT F.A cup final

L r d wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:

L r d wrote:

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:

No ref is going to give a penalty when a player continues in that position. He fucked the oppitunity up. Would have been a travesty if he gave the penalty anyway, after bottling a second one for the red wiz

You got one when ronaldo headed it against milito who was a full 2 milimetres away from him

And you want another for a 50/50 challenge in which ronaldo fell over because he was a cheating c**t ?

His hands were way over his head. Blatant pen. Not only was the Marques incident a 100% pen, he would have been sent off. The replay clearly shows Marques crash into him, it wasnt a dive, he simply went down under the challenge.

if I run into a wall whose fault is it if I'm hurt? Mine or the walls?

Ronaldo is a wall?

if by wall you mean cheat then yes

If a decision like that had gone against you you'd never let it lie.

No penalty

L r d wrote:

Yeah good one COTR

Used to love this land all to myself. Will you help me evict sky sports?

You are using the same people who said gerrard did not dive in the blackburn game to back you up

L r d wrote:
We were shite, but there were 2 blatant penalties, and one debateable for a possible third.

We didn't deserve to win at all, but just saying how it was.

Ferguson and Queiroz really need to tighten up your Mancs for the return match. Yes, you were solid on defense, but Barça were SHITE...although they have an excuse. Actually a few excuses.

I just don't see you keeping them from scoring at Old Trafford ESPECIALLY IF Ronaldinho returns even to play 20 minutes. Messi and Deco will be much fitter, but not 100% yet. EVERYTHING to play for. For the return match it's 49-51 Barça's favor only because they kept a clean sheet at home.

Anyway as long as Vidic is fit I think ManU will win simply because Barca's defence is exceptionally $h!t for a big team. IMO its worse than Roma's and that's bad. Toure was MOTM because he got the ball back soo quickly if Barca lost it allowing them to keep possession throughout - plus he was more than competent at passing himself. Only two things can save Barca - Messi playing a full 90mins and/or allowing Henry to take all the freekicks.

COTR wrote:

L r d wrote:

Yeah good one COTR

Used to love this land all to myself. Will you help me evict sky sports?

You are using the same people who said gerrard did not dive in the blackburn game to back you up

Them and the t.v camera's

shazlx wrote:Anyway as long as Vidic is fit I think ManU will win simply because Barca's defence is exceptionally $h!t for a big team. IMO its worse than Roma's and that's bad. Toure was MOTM because he got the ball back soo quickly if Barca lost it allowing them to keep possession throughout - plus he was more than competent at passing himself. Only two things can save Barca - Messi playing a full 90mins and/or allowing Henry to take all the freekicks.

Henry looked dangerous when he was on.

There are only so many midgets cutting inside from the wing one team can have

I want to see him start at OT

Never understood TRB being played wide - he'd have scared the f@ck out of Barca, skill-wise & physique-wise playing through the Middle.

United got the penalty they deserved, the other 2 shouts were very dubious.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

L r d wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

L r d wrote:80% possesion stat was of the last 5 minutes of play at some point in the match. Not overall.

Barca were $h!t for heaven sakes, they barely created a chance. 2 possibly 3 penalties for man utd. We played awful, but this was not a Barca masterclass ffs.

How about 0 possibly 1.

What about Evra on Iniesta and Rio on Eto'o - they were pens.

?

First is blatant handball over his head.

Second is a clear foul in the box.

The third is a wreckless challenge by Abidal and it's debateable if he got the ball first or not.

Kudos to Etoo for not going down, but it wasnt a penalty as he didn't....

Iniesta's? are you having a laugh

Yeah that's right, that's the rule


Milito's couldn't have been intentional when the ball was travelling at that pace.

Iniesta - the replay clearly showed that Evra's right foot got his calf.

Could easily have been 5 penalties given tonight with little cause for complaint. Last night Benitez said that Cole should have been penalised for a push but conveniently ignored the fact that his player was pulling Cole's shirt first so there should have been a free kick to Chelsea. There were no such mitigating factors tonight.

The Coolest™ wrote:Never understood TRB being played wide - he'd have scared the f@ck out of Barca, skill-wise & physique-wise playing through the Middle.

United got the penalty they deserved, the other 2 shouts were very dubious.

Rooney wasn't fully fit after the game at Blackburn.

No way would Saf take him off that early if he was fully fit.

Was that really Barcelona v Man Utd? SAF, I want 90 minutes of my life back thanks to your inadequacy as head coach of Man Utd. Theres a reason why we've gone out at the semi-finals stage so often, and the common denominator is you.

I dont care what the SAF lovers say, screw our domestic success, great teams are judged upon performances in Europe, particularly away from home, and it comes down to the personell and tactics deployed by the management, and ours to put it mildly, has been consistently DISAPPOINTING.

SAF should have retired after the treble. We may have an exciting bunch of players, but we need a tactician that can give us the performances and the results that we crave. At this rate, we're never going to get anywhere near Livepools 5 triumphs. Christ, theyve lost in more finals than we've even been to!

Both teams were extremely poor. Jesus Christ, it was obvious after 20 minutes that the team that we fielded today wasnt going to score, and Ronaldo set the tone with the damned penalty miss, which Ive got a feeling will come back to haunt him and us. Barcelona never looked like scoring, and I think SAF will be satisfied with the goaless draw. But Im not.

Barcelona were so poor, they were there for the taking and we did ef-all to make it happen. I bet you Barcelona score a flukey goal at OT and win the tie, just like Porto did a few years ago.

SAF, what the hell were you doing taking off Rooney? In the 75th minute?! Carrick and Park were total pants today, poor passing, work-rate, tackling, poor everything. We should have made subsitutions at half-time, putting on Anderson and Nani for those 2. Personally, Id have had Pique in the back 4 with Brown at RB, and OH doing his midfield duties, but then that would have meant taking off Scholes, who for me was our MOTM. He was immense and rarely put a foot wrong.

The tactics by us were... what the hell were our tactics? Barcelona were relying on individual brilliance to do something, and we, well we did ef-all. Rooney was wasted on the right. Why the hell didnt we play 4-3-3? Tevez was also poor, even a change in formation, something to lift the boredom would have done. 4-4-2, 4-5-1, but no, safety first... and how many ECL trophies has that won us? But no, arrogant SAF sticks to his guns and we stand more than a 50% of going out, AGAIN at the semi-final stage. And to be honest, we bloody well deserve it.

And I dont want to hear about "oh, we've got Chelsea on Saturday", they will play similarly to what we saw from Barcelona today. They will be there for the taking but we wont do it.

Frankly, that game yesterday was more of a spectacle than the borefest we were subjected to today.

Parks lives wrote:

The Coolest™ wrote:Never understood TRB being played wide - he'd have scared the f@ck out of Barca, skill-wise & physique-wise playing through the Middle.

United got the penalty they deserved, the other 2 shouts were very dubious.

Rooney wasn't fully fit after the game at Blackburn.

No way would Saf take him off that early if he was fully fit.

He looked a bit slow tonight. That makes sense.

My MOTM is Yaya Toure for his textbook Defensive Midfielder display against the Mancs. 8.5

What is everybody going on about?

0-0 at the Nou Camp and an immense defensive performance. Nobody expected us to beat them, maybe a goal but Barca were on top form.

But Fergie must play Anderson next week to ensure our trip to Moscow. Ronaldo and Nani on the wings, simple 4-4-2.

Vidic will be back next week, meaning we can have Hargreaves back in centre midfield to control the game.

I thought Man Utd's penalty was given correctly - like I've said before, with hand-balls it is sometimes difficult determining what is deliberate, or whether this matters if the ball is heading towards the goal, but I think a player that handles with his arms above his head should be penalised.

Their second appeal was difficult - Marquez looked as though he was going to try and block Ronaldo off instead of focusing on the ball, but Ronaldo stuck his arm across Marquez first, moved into him, then went to the ground. I don't think it was a penalty. And I don't think Abidal's challenge warranted a penalty either - it is irrelevant whether the challenge was clumsy or not - Abidal got a significant touch on the ball and didn't go through the man first.

Regarding the Etoo situation, the referee could have given the penalty anyway and he could also have given Ferdinand a yellow card or even a red after Etoo had played on. That really should happen more often, because it would encourage players not to dive - at the moment, if a player dives in and you don't go down and make a meal of things, you lose out entirely. For me, Evra on Iniesta was the clearest penalty of the night. He just tripped him in the box.

Puro wrote:My MOTM is Yaya Toure for his textbook Defensive Midfielder display against the Mancs. 8.5

He had nothing to defend

All idiots who think 0-0 is a good result away from home - go away now.

That was worse than a defeat - the embarassment of seeing our much hyped team gain 27% possession (according to Sky) in a football match and 1, yes ONE shot on target in 90 minutes was to me WORSE than trying to play and losing 3 - 0.

I don't want to win the Champions League in a way which not only rivals our less talented rivals (Liverpool / Chelsea) but is actually more boring. I'd rather lose gloriously - and I simply cannot forgive Fergie for bottling it THIS TIME.

THIS TIME - we have the strongest team in the competition

THIS TIME - we only have domestic rivals in the final

THIS TIME - our semi-final opponents are in relegation form

THIS TIME - fergie sends our team out to defend against a team so poor in form - they couldn't work out how to put the ball in the net - I think we almost fooled them with our sheer inability to play football.

THIS TIME - Fergie is a fool - there is no excuse for that performance - it was so boring it was criminal. I don't want to win the CL playing like wimbledon - I wan't to win it playing like Manchester United.

Fergie you are to blame - and I hope you resign.

Fey wrote:Was that really Barcelona v Man Utd? SAF, I want 90 minutes of my life back thanks to your inadequacy as head coach of Man Utd. Theres a reason why we've gone out at the semi-finals stage so often, and the common denominator is you.

I dont care what the SAF lovers say, screw our domestic success, great teams are judged upon performances in Europe, particularly away from home, and it comes down to the personell and tactics deployed by the management, and ours to put it mildly, has been consistently DISAPPOINTING.

SAF should have retired after the treble. We may have an exciting bunch of players, but we need a tactician that can give us the performances and the results that we crave. At this rate, we're never going to get anywhere near Livepools 5 triumphs. Christ, theyve lost in more finals than we've even been to!

Both teams were extremely poor. Jesus Christ, it was obvious after 20 minutes that the team that we fielded today wasnt going to score, and Ronaldo set the tone with the damned penalty miss, which Ive got a feeling will come back to haunt him and us. Barcelona never looked like scoring, and I think SAF will be satisfied with the goaless draw. But Im not.

Barcelona were so poor, they were there for the taking and we did ef-all to make it happen. I bet you Barcelona score a flukey goal at OT and win the tie, just like Porto did a few years ago.

SAF, what the hell were you doing taking off Rooney? In the 75th minute?! Carrick and Park were total pants today, poor passing, work-rate, tackling, poor everything. We should have made subsitutions at half-time, putting on Anderson and Nani for those 2. Personally, Id have had Pique in the back 4 with Brown at RB, and OH doing his midfield duties, but then that would have meant taking off Scholes, who for me was our MOTM. He was immense and rarely put a foot wrong.

The tactics by us were... what the hell were our tactics? Barcelona were relying on individual brilliance to do something, and we, well we did ef-all. Rooney was wasted on the right. Why the hell didnt we play 4-3-3? Tevez was also poor, even a change in formation, something to lift the boredom would have done. 4-4-2, 4-5-1, but no, safety first... and how many ECL trophies has that won us? But no, arrogant SAF sticks to his guns and we stand more than a 50% of going out, AGAIN at the semi-final stage. And to be honest, we bloody well deserve it.

And I dont want to hear about "oh, we've got Chelsea on Saturday", they will play similarly to what we saw from Barcelona today. They will be there for the taking but we wont do it.

Frankly, that game yesterday was more of a spectacle than the borefest we were subjected to today.

THIEF!

Fey wrote:What is everybody going on about?

0-0 at the Nou Camp and an immense defensive performance. Nobody expected us to beat them, maybe a goal but Barca were on top form.

But Fergie must play Anderson next week to ensure our trip to Moscow. Ronaldo and Nani on the wings, simple 4-4-2.

Vidic will be back next week, meaning we can have Hargreaves back in centre midfield to control the game.

Are there two of you on this board?

Fey wrote:All idiots who think 0-0 is a good result away from home - go away now.

That was worse than a defeat - the embarassment of seeing our much hyped team gain 27% possession (according to Sky) in a football match and 1, yes ONE shot on target in 90 minutes was to me WORSE than trying to play and losing 3 - 0.

I don't want to win the Champions League in a way which not only rivals our less talented rivals (Liverpool / Chelsea) but is actually more boring. I'd rather lose gloriously - and I simply cannot forgive Fergie for bottling it THIS TIME.

THIS TIME - we have the strongest team in the competition

THIS TIME - we only have domestic rivals in the final

THIS TIME - our semi-final opponents are in relegation form

THIS TIME - fergie sends our team out to defend against a team so poor in form - they couldn't work out how to put the ball in the net - I think we almost fooled them with our sheer inability to play football.

THIS TIME - Fergie is a fool - there is no excuse for that performance - it was so boring it was criminal. I don't want to win the CL playing like wimbledon - I wan't to win it playing like Manchester United.

Fergie you are to blame - and I hope you resign.

Fey wrote:What is everybody going on about?

0-0 at the Nou Camp and an immense defensive performance. Nobody expected us to beat them, maybe a goal but Barca were on top form.

But Fergie must play Anderson next week to ensure our trip to Moscow. Ronaldo and Nani on the wings, simple 4-4-2.

Vidic will be back next week, meaning we can have Hargreaves back in centre midfield to control the game.

Fey wrote:All idiots who think 0-0 is a good result away from home - go away now.

That was worse than a defeat - the embarassment of seeing our much hyped team gain 27% possession (according to Sky) in a football match and 1, yes ONE shot on target in 90 minutes was to me WORSE than trying to play and losing 3 - 0.

I don't want to win the Champions League in a way which not only rivals our less talented rivals (Liverpool / Chelsea) but is actually more boring. I'd rather lose gloriously - and I simply cannot forgive Fergie for bottling it THIS TIME.

THIS TIME - we have the strongest team in the competition

THIS TIME - we only have domestic rivals in the final

THIS TIME - our semi-final opponents are in relegation form

THIS TIME - fergie sends our team out to defend against a team so poor in form - they couldn't work out how to put the ball in the net - I think we almost fooled them with our sheer inability to play football.

THIS TIME - Fergie is a fool - there is no excuse for that performance - it was so boring it was criminal. I don't want to win the CL playing like wimbledon - I wan't to win it playing like Manchester United.

Fergie you are to blame - and I hope you resign.