Real Madrid C.F. 2008/09

Jaime wrote:But it's funny, AS say that VDV is going to Atletico.

According to Dutch press (a couple of days ago) VDV has turned down Atletico because it wasn't a big enough club...

Axeslammer wrote:

Jaime wrote:
I can't f*cking believe we are signing van der Vaart. What the f*ck do we need ANOTHER mediapunta? We're definitlely not playing 4-4-2 with him.

Real usually don't know what player's best positions are, maybe you've got it right in this case....

VDV is at his best as a free roaming second striker, second best as a number 10 (attacking playmaker) and thirdly he'll still do well in any other role on midfield.

If you play 4-4-2 with Ruud and VDV as strikers you might be doing very well...

And even if we do know what the player's best position is, Pedja ignores and thinks "Yeah, we already have four second strikers but why not sign one more, maybe he can slot in at right back".

f@ck off with him, VDV is no Real Madrid quality! A.Madrid is the limit for him, sums him up as well...good but not the best!

Besides that Midget and that fat gipsy c**t are never good together.

Where will you play VDV ?

I'm thinking he might try a 4-3-3.

---------------Casillas---------------

Ramos----Pepe-Cannavaro--Heinze

-----------------Gago----------------

----------Sneijder--De La Red------

-------Robben-------Van Der Vaart-

------------------RVN----------------

Robben for Raul
Granero for DLR or Sneijder.

If I was Granero, DLR or Javi Garcia I'd think about leaving ASAP.

It will probably be a variation of the odd 4-3-3 he employed last year:

-------------------------------------Casillas

S. Ramos/Torres---Cannavaro/J. Garcia---Pepe/Metzelder---Marcelo/Heinze

-------------------------Gago/De la Red/Diarra

-----v.d. Vaart/Granero---------------Sneijder/Guti

----------------Raul/Higuain------------------------------Robinho/Robben

---------------------------------v. Nistelrooy

nooooooooooooooooooo not madrizzzzzzzzz....? Why are the p0-0l and drizzz are hunting on the Farty man?

F*cking hell Fey!

If you had to f*ck 3 of them, which 3 would they be?

From that bunch of honeys, it's hard to choose. The softer the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'.

Please, fey if you're going to post such nasty images they belong in the FC Barcelona thread

TM wrote:

Please, fey if you're going to post such nasty images they belong in the FC Barcelona thread

Hello everybody.

Van der Vaart is no lesser player than Guti. Certainly got more consistency. But we certainly don't need the luxury of him in the bench, do we? And last thing we need is the dutch camp assembling by Schuster. On a side note, Bundesliga is a bit underrated (there you go again, I'm sure few would reckon "overrated"). But It's a good league. Doesn't quite have the hype of EPL, or the myth of Serie A, and the glamour of La liga. But the matches aren't bad so to speak. They have big names (incl. the ones who failed in Euros, Gomez, Toni, etc), physical game with considerable tempo in attack, and also got fair share of flair players expressing themselves. Hamburg is a good club, and he doesn't have to move to Spurs (definitely). Athletico is a better choice, will make their starting lineup easily.

So with VDV you'll have more Dutch than Spanish players in your likely line up. How would that go down?

TheCrazy58 wrote:So with VDV you'll have more Dutch than Spanish players in your likely line up. How would that gone down?

No, My comment isn't on that lines. That'd be xenophobic, wouldn't it? I was taking an euphemistic wink at Barca when I typed that, they have this thing for Dutch. Nothing offending I swear.

Hey zizoued don't worry about being xenophobic. Madriz fans are known to be xenophobic and have far-right wing views (the club even have an area for these people in the stadium)

zizoued wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:So with VDV you'll have more Dutch than Spanish players in your likely line up. How would that gone down?

No, My comment isn't on that lines. That'd be xenophobic, wouldn't it? I was taking an euphemistic wink at Barca when I typed that, they have this thing for Dutch. Nothing offending I swear.

Oh my post wasn't directed at yours. Just a random question. No worries.

More information (according to AS) about the van de Vaart transfer:

Aprovechando el ruido de fondo que genera el culebrón Cristiano Ronaldo, el Real Madrid ha utilizado la coyuntura para cerrar un acuerdo con la estrella del Hamburgo, Rafael Van der Vaart, que fichará por el conjunto blanco en la temporada 2009-10. El compromiso se rubricó anteayer en Chiclana. El futbolista, que era pretendido por el Atlético, finaliza su vinculación con el equipo alemán en 2010, pero existe una cláusula en su contrato por la que puede abandonar el Hamburgo en junio de 2009 por tan sólo un millón de euros.

El Madrid, que cuenta en la actualidad con cuatro futbolistas holandeses en la plantilla, habría firmado un contrato privado con el centrocampista zurdo por cinco temporadas. La trascendencia pública de este acuerdo obliga ahora al Real Madrid a negociar con el Hamburgo para que no venda al jugador durante este verano a otro equipo (su cláusula de rescisión es de 23 millones de euros).

Soldado to Getafe for €8m. and Granero could return for one more year on loan.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/futbol-soldado-sera-traspasado-getafe/dasftb/20080711dasdaiftb_48/Tes

A bit cheap no?

Jaime wrote:

Torrente wrote:@Jaime

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Personally, I think Robinho should be an "untouchable" and I think he has shown enough in 3 seasons not to be sold. I really fear that if we sell him now, he will become a superstar in his next team and we'll be kicking ourselves for selling him. I could be wrong but only time will tell.

Also, from what I understand Schuster's 4-3-3 from last season had more to do with our lack of wingers, but this season he intends to implement a classic 4-4-2. However, if we do sign Van Der Vaart, it may be the case that Schuster will stick with his 4-3-3. Can't see how Gago/Guti/Sneijder/VDV could ever work in a 4-4-2 formation.

If we sell him, he could go on to be great. But that doesn't mean if we keep him he will go on to be great by default. Somtimes things don't work out. Like Cambiasso for example. He was never great for us. But he's gone on to be quite good for Inter. If he had stayed would he have ever reached the same level? Who knows. It's impossible to say.

True, but I think Cambiasso's case is much different. He was too slow for La Liga and not good enough on the ball. Seria A is tailor made for his type of game. To me, there is no doubt that La Liga is perfect for Robinho's game. I can't see how he would do better in the Premiership than La Liga, so if he's a big success there then he would obviously be in Spain IMO.

TM wrote:A bit cheap no?

For a player that played no more than 200 minutes with us in all competitions last year, I think 8 million is as good as it gets. His price a year ago was around 12 million, so it's only natural that I will drop several million. It's a shame Soldado never got a proper run in the first team, but it's obvious that he has to go.

MD says the deal with Van Der Vaart is actually for next season, and the agreement with Hamburg is for 12m euros.

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080711/noticia_53498410023.html

That doesn't make any sense, VDV is available for 1m€, like you said.

Torrente wrote:

TM wrote:A bit cheap no?

For a player that played no more than 200 minutes with us in all competitions last year, I think 8 million is as good as it gets. His price a year ago was around 12 million, so it's only natural that I will drop several million. It's a shame Soldado never got a proper run in the first team, but it's obvious that he has to go.

It is a shame but good luck to the lad, he's not like c*nts like Mata who ran off at the first opportunity that came. He at least came back and tried to fight for a place. It's not his fault Bernd doesn't trust him. Hopefully he has a lot of success with Getafe.

Also, our good friends from SPORT have reported Wolfsburg are willing to pay 6m. euro for Saviola.

Soldado: 6M
Balboa: 6M
Codina: 2M
Saviola: 2 M

(last two; just rumours at the moment)

16m€, not too bad! They're doing something right

6m€ is adequate for Saviola, covers his wages and leaves 3m€

Can't really complain too much as long as saviola is gone

Jaime wrote:

Torrente wrote:

TM wrote:A bit cheap no?

For a player that played no more than 200 minutes with us in all competitions last year, I think 8 million is as good as it gets. His price a year ago was around 12 million, so it's only natural that I will drop several million. It's a shame Soldado never got a proper run in the first team, but it's obvious that he has to go.

It is a shame but good luck to the lad, he's not like c*nts like Mata who ran off at the first opportunity that came. He at least came back and tried to fight for a place. It's not his fault Bernd doesn't trust him. Hopefully he has a lot of success with Getafe.

Also, our good friends from SPORT have reported Wolfsburg are willing to pay 6m. euro for Saviola.

Soldado, like others before him such as Javier Portillo, was the one could have been but never haves. It has got worse since "I-never-trust-the-youth-system-but-my-whores" Scheister got in charge (mind you, he's probably follwoing the order of the greasmonkey of the football). As far as I'm concerned, Mata is the wise one who is more realistic and ernest to playing the game in some sense than others with false hope/promise and/or easy money. We never really know if Soldado's lack of opportunities was down to his quality or not.

The problem for us is that the club is becoming (and/or perceived to be) more like "Robbens and Ronaldos" rather than "Zidanes and Pavones", so more egoistic shits with shrewd vulture like agents to please real CUNT5 like some one with ill-gotten power like shittier-than-Dabya (you know who he is) are the only ones likely to play for us.

I'll support the club as long as the likes of Iker playing for us, but I may have to think about of giving it up all together! (Could be a bit of a Friday afternoon talk?!)

Mexicanbecks wrote:Can't really complain too much as long as saviola is gone

Hey, welcome back!