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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:38 pm

    Another small quote from Calderon's speech:

    "Van der Vaart es la primera incorporación de este año y seguramente la única."

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    Post by Super Progress Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:39 pm

    Jaime wrote:I didn't believe you at first but here is the transcript from Calderon's presentation:

    "...un jugador de extraordinaria calidad, un medio defensivo que marca goles, gran visión de juego y mucho talento."

    But then VDV clarifies:

    “Puedo jugar tanto de mediapunta como por la derecha o izquierda”.

    lol!
    lol!
    Im not even sure if this is funny that we are run by people who are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo incompetent it is unreal(no pun intended Very Happy )

    doesnt chance much since we dont play with media puntas in Shusters tactics but Cms which VDV can do aswell. but just like with Snejider it perhaps be best if Shuster changed the tactic so it was more of 4-2-3-1 to get the best out of Snejider/VDV.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:40 pm

    added VDV bonus : he already speaks Spanish Ale
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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:41 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:added VDV bonus : he already speaks Spanish Ale

    I was saying the other day that VDV is the closest thing we will get to signing a Spanish player.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:43 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Axeslammer wrote:added VDV bonus : he already speaks Spanish Ale

    I was saying the other day that VDV is the closest thing we will get to signing a Spanish player.

    Lol Razz
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    Post by golsud Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:48 pm

    He doesn't speak spanish.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:49 pm

    25 Jerzy DUDEK
    24
    23 Wesley SNEIJDER
    22 Miguel TORRES
    21 Christoph METZELDER
    20 Gonzalo HIGUAIN
    19 Julio BAPTISTA
    18 Javier SAVIOLA
    17 Ruud VAN NISTELROOY
    16 Gabriel HEINZE
    15 Royston DRENTHE
    14 Jose Maria Gutierrez, GUTI
    13 Jordi CODINA
    12 MARCELO Vieira
    11 Arjen ROBBEN
    10 Robson de Souza, ROBINHO
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    8 Fernando GAGO
    7 RAUL Gonzalez
    6 Mahamadou DIARRA
    5 Fabio CANNAVARO
    4 Sergio RAMOS
    3 Kepler Laveran Ferreira, PEPE
    2 Michel SALGADO
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    -- Ruben DE LA RED
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    -- Rafael VAN DE VAART
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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:51 pm

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:07 pm

    golsud wrote:He doesn't speak spanish.
    I doubt indeed if he speaks spanish.... But having said that... He spoke German within a while so with keeping in mind half his family is spanish he'll speaks it in no time....

    If not.... Sylvie will spank him Kinky
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:09 pm

    Jaime wrote:25 Jerzy DUDEK
    24
    23 Wesley SNEIJDER
    22 Miguel TORRES
    21 Christoph METZELDER
    20 Gonzalo HIGUAIN
    19 Julio BAPTISTA
    18 Javier SAVIOLA
    17 Ruud VAN NISTELROOY
    16 Gabriel HEINZE
    15 Royston DRENTHE
    14 Jose Maria Gutierrez, GUTI
    13 Jordi CODINA
    12 MARCELO Vieira
    11 Arjen ROBBEN
    10 Robson de Souza, ROBINHO
    9 RAUL Gonzalez
    8 Fernando GAGO
    7 RAUL Gonzalez RONALDO Cristiano (TRW)
    6 Mahamadou DIARRA
    5 Fabio CANNAVARO
    4 Sergio RAMOS
    3 Kepler Laveran Ferreira, PEPE
    2 Michel SALGADO
    1 Iker CASILLAS
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    -- Francisco Javier GARCIA
    -- Rafael VAN DE VAART


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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:10 pm

    San Ricky Jol wrote:
    golsud wrote:He doesn't speak spanish.
    I doubt indeed if he speaks spanish.... But having said that... He spoke German within a while so with keeping in mind half his family is spanish he'll speaks it in no time....

    If not.... Sylvie will spank him Kinky

    VDV at his presentation: "Gracias presidento. Yo no habla mucho Spaneesh".

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    Post by Jaime Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:11 pm

    @ Dick

    Didn't you see what Calderon said at van de Vaart's presentation? The dutchie is our first and ONLY signing this season.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:22 pm

    Jaime wrote:@ Dick

    Didn't you see what Calderon said at van de Vaart's presentation? The dutchie is our first and ONLY signing this season.

    If i was to believe EVERYTHING that dick Calderon has to say - then i would be expecting to see in your line Cecs, Kaka and TRW too!

    Look that son a lying bitch is a disgrace - how you can proudly hold him as your beloved Presidente i know not - he has managed to bring a once great club into utter disrepute and disgrace!
    Class does not behave this way!
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:25 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Jaime wrote:@ Dick

    Didn't you see what Calderon said at van de Vaart's presentation? The dutchie is our first and ONLY signing this season.

    If i was to believe EVERYTHING that dick Calderon has to say - then i would be expecting to see in your line Cecs, Kaka and TRW too!

    Look that son a lying bitch is a disgrace - how you can proudly hold him as your beloved Presidente i know not - he has managed to bring a once great club into utter disrepute and disgrace!
    Class does not behave this way!
    And nobody has said he is class. if you dont understand how he is by now i suggest you check his comments on VDV above which says alot about him.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:26 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Jaime wrote:@ Dick

    Didn't you see what Calderon said at van de Vaart's presentation? The dutchie is our first and ONLY signing this season.

    If i was to believe EVERYTHING that dick Calderon has to say - then i would be expecting to see in your line Cecs, Kaka and TRW too!

    Look that son a lying bitch is a disgrace - how you can proudly hold him as your beloved Presidente i know not - he has managed to bring a once great club into utter disrepute and disgrace!
    Class does not behave this way!
    And nobody has said he is class. if you dont understand how he is by now i suggest you check his comments on VDV above which says alot about him.

    Can ye translate it please? I cant read/understand Spanish.
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    Post by fcb Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:36 pm

    Sad Sad Sad
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:38 pm

    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:
    Dick Grayson wrote:
    Jaime wrote:@ Dick

    Didn't you see what Calderon said at van de Vaart's presentation? The dutchie is our first and ONLY signing this season.

    If i was to believe EVERYTHING that dick Calderon has to say - then i would be expecting to see in your line Cecs, Kaka and TRW too!

    Look that son a lying bitch is a disgrace - how you can proudly hold him as your beloved Presidente i know not - he has managed to bring a once great club into utter disrepute and disgrace!
    Class does not behave this way!
    And nobody has said he is class. if you dont understand how he is by now i suggest you check his comments on VDV above which says alot about him.

    Can ye translate it please? I cant read/understand Spanish.
    Im guesing you know Van der Vaart right? well he is an offensive midfielder or a second striker in a way. well Calderon is praising him for being a defensive midfielder who scores goals. i can recall ever seeing Van der Vaart being a Dm. just like when they called Drenteh the new Roberto Carlos only to find out that he was Lm and had no idea how to play Lb. my point is that Calderon is pretty much clueless on everything.
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    Post by elbecko Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:01 pm

    Jaime wrote:Another small quote from Calderon's speech:

    "Van der Vaart es la primera incorporación de este año y seguramente la única."

    Whistle
    I hope that is it. I had a horrible thoughts that they may do Garay on CRy (paying EUR 80M then loan him back out to ManUre for a year, just to say he signed him)...
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    Post by Jaime Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:32 am

    Here are the players that will be traveling to Colombia for the friendly match against Independiente Santa Fe

    LISTA DE CONVOCADOS:

    Dudek, Codina, Salgado, Heinze, Torres, Pepe, Antón, Diarra, Guti, Baptista, Robinho, Robben, Van der Vaart, Javi García, Raúl, Van Nistelrooy, Saviola y Callejón.
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    Post by Historicus Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:12 am

    So how long until Real Madrid buys Dirk Kuyt so they can have the entire Oranje attack playing for them?
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:19 am

    Historicus wrote:So how long until Real Madrid buys Dirk Kuyt so they can have the entire Oranje attack playing for them?

    That'll be after they've replaced Ruud with Klaas-Jan ok

    (Ruud won't be playing for Oranje no more)


    ....and by the way : Dirk isn't an attacker, he's a RB Ale
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    Post by Torrente Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:00 am

    Back from London and I must say that little can be derived from the Emirates Cup. I was there for the second day but I was disappointed that Schuster used a b-team for the first half and we didn't have any starting fullbacks for any of the games. A few things of note:

    -Salgado is more than finished. His running is as fast as a turtle's and he's become a liability in defense as well. We would do well in paying a team to take him away from us.

    -Dudek doesn't seem like such a bad substitute for Casillas after all. He did well last year when he played, and he's continued a good run of form. Since he will only play in Copa games, we shouldn't be worried about him.

    -I was pleased with Callejon Bueno, who looks like a gutsy player. I would rather have him over Salgado as RB. He did well as CB as well.

    -Baptista played like a complete and utter donkey. If Roma gives us 15 million or above, I'd say we sell him without hesitating.

    -Robinho should be kept at all cost.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:05 pm

    Torrente wrote:-Salgado is more than finished. His running is as fast as a turtle's and he's become a liability in defense as well. We would do well in paying a team to take him away from us.

    Has been for quite some time. Unfortunately he's determined to see out his contract of which this is the last year, I think (hope!).


    -Dudek doesn't seem like such a bad substitute for Casillas after all. He did well last year when he played, and he's continued a good run of form. Since he will only play in Copa games, we shouldn't be worried about him.

    Maybe, but for the wages he's on he was still a bad signing in my book. Would rather give the opportunities to Codina or Adan or Felipe.


    -I was pleased with Callejon Bueno, who looks like a gutsy player. I would rather have him over Salgado as RB. He did well as CB as well.

    Thought so as well. Would be smart to maybe use him as the backup to Ramos and use Torres as centre back (his natural position).


    -Baptista played like a complete and utter donkey. If Roma gives us 15 million or above, I'd say we sell him without hesitating.

    Marca say Roma would be take him for 10m. To be honest, now that we have VDV, I'd settle for 10.

    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1153649.html

    -Robinho should be kept at all cost.

    Biggrin

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    Post by Jaime Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:28 pm

    Cristiano Ronaldo anuncia que se queda en el Manchester

    Según la página Web del diario portugués PÚBLICO, en una entrevista exclusiva, el jugador portugués anunció que va a permanecer en el club inglés, con quién tiene contrato hasta 2012.

    En la entrevista Cristiano explica los motivos por los que va a continuar jugando, por lo menos un año más, en Old Trafford, elogia al entrenador Alex Ferguson y no esconde que su sueño es jugar en el Real Madrid.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/cristiano-ronaldo-anuncia-queda-manchester/dasftb/20080806dasdasftb_32/Tes

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    Post by elbecko Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:54 am

    Jaime wrote:Cristiano Ronaldo anuncia que se queda en el Manchester

    Según la página Web del diario portugués PÚBLICO, en una entrevista exclusiva, el jugador portugués anunció que va a permanecer en el club inglés, con quién tiene contrato hasta 2012.

    En la entrevista Cristiano explica los motivos por los que va a continuar jugando, por lo menos un año más, en Old Trafford, elogia al entrenador Alex Ferguson y no esconde que su sueño es jugar en el Real Madrid.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/cristiano-ronaldo-anuncia-queda-manchester/dasftb/20080806dasdasftb_32/Tes

    Whoop
    Have got to wait until 31st...
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    Post by Jaime Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:02 pm

    Robinho, vía libre

    Robinho está a punto de salirse con la suya y dentro de poco vestirá la camiseta del Chelsea. El brasileño no está contento en el Real Madrid, se siente infravalorado y molesto porque el club no le ha dejado ir a los Juegos Olímpicos. Con este panorama, Robinho quiere irse y su destino será el Chelsea, el equipo de su querido Scolari. Así se lo ha hecho saber ya hace mucho tiempo a la directiva y entrenador del club blanco y siempre se había encontrado con una respuesta negativa.

    Ahora, todo eso ha cambiado y el risueño brasileño está muy cerca de conseguir irse al Chelsea. Ramón Calderón y Pedja Mijatovic ya habían dado el OK al traspaso, pero faltaba el más importante: el de Schuster. El técnico alemán no estaba dispuesto a desprenderse de Robinho si no llegaba un recambio de garantías. Muchos pensaron que ese hombre era Cristiano Ronaldo, pero el que quería el alemán era Van der Vaart. Sus deseos se han hecho realidad y ahora sí, Schuster ha dado su visto bueno para abrirle la puerta a Robinho. El jugador y su representante ya saben que el equipo blanco le permitirá salir de Chamartín, pero aún deberán esperar un poco más para poder hacerlo.

    La actual directiva del Real Madrid quiere sacar el máximo de dinero posible por Robinho y sabe que el Chelsea está dispuesto a desembolsar unos buenos millones de euros. Además, los dirigentes 'merengues' quieren quedar bien ante su afición y no están dispuestos a pasar a la historia como los que sucumbieron al chantaje de un jugador que se quiere ir sí o sí. Es decir, que no quieren probar la medicina que ellos le están dando al Manchester United con Cristiano Ronaldo. Algo que, por otro lado, ya les ha recordado Robinho hace pocos días y que ha molestado bastante a la directiva. Aunque molestos, han visto la oportunidad de crear un precedente y así hacerle entender al Manchester United que no se puede retener a un jugador si éste quiere irse, como es el caso de Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Aunque tampoco hay que olvidar que con la venta de Robinho, el Real Madrid financiaría buena parte del fichaje de Cristiano Ronaldo. El Chelsea ha hecho una primera oferta de 30 millones de euros por Robinho y el equipo blanco pide 40 para empezar a hablar. Habrá que ver cuanto dura este tira y afloja entre los dos clubs, pero parece claro que Robinho tiene los días contados en el Real Madrid. En el Chelsea, el jugador brasileño, además de tener asegurada la titularidad, ganaría un mínimo de millón y medio más por temporada de lo que actualmente percibe en el Real Madrid. Una razón más que poderosa para que Robinho quiera vestir cuanto antes la camiseta 'blue'.

    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080807/noticia_53516214802.html
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    Post by Fade out Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:39 pm

    whining crybaby not gonna come! cheers
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:41 pm

    for now, wait til next season!!!!
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    Post by robert Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:39 pm

    Yup , hope to do business with you next season.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:05 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:for now, wait til next season!!!!
    im not so sure about that. if things go well next year and Shuster finds a formation that works well then i cant us going for Ronaldo. perhaps if Ruud is finished at that time which could happen.
    now if we dont win the Cl next year Calderon will have to do something special because he knows he will have a year for re election and in that case i can easily see that he would pay for Ronaldo.
    allthough im opposed to getting Ronaldo any time soon Calderon will be able to get a much better deal next year. he can drage the fee down quite a bit and if man utd refuse Ronaldo will push for it. so it could get real ugly next year.

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