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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:44 pm

    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:44 pm

    Catorce wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:It's ridiculous...how can a club like Man City, who are in a relegation battle, sign a club like AC Milan's best player...

    This transfer really will be the end for football...it will mean for sure, that money is everything...

    This I can’t put my head around, unless he seriously believes the foreseeable future looks good at Man City: silverware and Champions League football what other reasons is there to move now? he be joining a team in a relegation battle. This is one huge gamble for Kaka. I don’t think he’s going for the money doesn’t seem the sort.. Then again anything is possible. I don’t have a problem with Man City but given their situation this transfer seems ludicrous.

    Everyone has their price Rai. <Ale> The Pope would give up religion if you offered him enough.
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:45 pm

    TM wrote:
    Fey wrote:Well according to arabs there are 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven...lets wait and see first if it happens.

    City would be smarter to not got for the top players..just build it up a bit. Rome wasnt build in one day.

    ok

    Can't help but think Kaka has ruined his legacy.

    I'm out of his fan club that's for sure.
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:45 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Catorce wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:It's ridiculous...how can a club like Man City, who are in a relegation battle, sign a club like AC Milan's best player...

    This transfer really will be the end for football...it will mean for sure, that money is everything...

    This I can’t put my head around, unless he seriously believes the foreseeable future looks good at Man City: silverware and Champions League football what other reasons is there to move now? he be joining a team in a relegation battle. This is one huge gamble for Kaka. I don’t think he’s going for the money doesn’t seem the sort.. Then again anything is possible. I don’t have a problem with Man City but given their situation this transfer seems ludicrous.

    Everyone has their price Rai. <Ale>

    I don't see why Kaka would sign for a team 15th in the leauge, that have no chance to qualify for the CL, apart from £500K a week.
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    Post by Deano Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:46 pm

    Exactly TM...there is no way Kaka has gone there for footballing reasons, as it wouldn't make sense. I can't see any good reason for leaving AC Milan to go to Man City...
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Fey wrote:Well according to arabs there are 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven...lets wait and see first if it happens.

    City would be smarter to not got for the top players..just build it up a bit. Rome wasnt build in one day.

    ok

    Can't help but think Kaka has ruined his legacy.

    I'm out of his fan club that's for sure.

    Milan brought Kaka for £5M and now are selling him for £107M. £102 profit Yikes

    You can see why Milan accepted the bid, but Kaka No
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.

    I think i'm one of the few that aren't really arsed. Obviously fans of the super rich clubs are up in arms because an inferior club has way more money than them, suddenly they don't like being on the wrong end of an uneven playing field. Rolling Eyes Unlucky is what i say to them. <Ale>
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    Post by DS Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
    I dont, so what next, what is the valuation of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, what about wages.
    What about the upcoming stars, what would Lyon want for Karim, every fucking price in the market increases, what do West Ham would now want for Bellamy of City, 20-25m.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    me too. I don't see why the signing of a player like Kaká by an English team, as small as it is, can be bad for English football or for football in general.

    yeh, it's a lot of money, but money is made to be spent. you english are so conservative it makes me sick.






    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    TM wrote:I don't see why Kaka would sign for a team 15th in the leauge, that have no chance to qualify for the CL, apart from £500K a week.

    Its mostly the ££££.

    Also though, its exciting times at City. By next season they could quite feasibly have a squad of world class players
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:47 pm

    Apparently Manchester City has rejected claims they have signed Kaka...They’ve yet to open dialogue with him. We are back in the balance.
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    Post by Fey Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:49 pm

    TM wrote:
    Fey wrote:Well according to arabs there are 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven...lets wait and see first if it happens.

    City would be smarter to not got for the top players..just build it up a bit. Rome wasnt build in one day.

    ok

    Can't help but think Kaka has ruined his legacy.

    Like I said before...Brazilians will do ANYTHING for money Biggrin

    If you would come from a poor country you would do the same...those players often have to support a family of at least 35 people! if you get offered a job that pays 5 times more then your current job..you dont even say your colleagues goodbye and leave already!

    But..Kaka is already filthy rich..so he is indeed a moneygrabbing whore!!

    Thank god he is a good christian!
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:49 pm

    DS wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
    I dont, so what next, what is the valuation of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, what about wages.
    What about the upcoming stars, what would Lyon want for Karim, every fucking price in the market increases, what do West Ham would now want for Bellamy of City, 20-25m.

    THIS transfer makes little difference to othe transfers IMO.

    I mean how much do you value Ronaldo at? Kaka, Messi and Ronaldo were always 'priceless' and it would always take an extortionate amount of money to sign them.
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:50 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:I don't see why Kaka would sign for a team 15th in the leauge, that have no chance to qualify for the CL, apart from £500K a week.

    Its mostly the ££££.

    Also though, its exciting times at City. By next season they could quite feasibly have a squad of world class players

    It has f***** the transfer market though scratch
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:50 pm

    Catorce wrote:Apparently Manchester City has rejected claims they have signed Kaka...They’ve yet to open dialogue with him. We are back in the balance.

    Kaka Blush
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    Post by Fey Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:51 pm

    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Why?

    I like the fact there is a new appex predator in town..one that can own the big clubs for a change!

    The other day i read a player choose wigan over psv...football died a long time ago already so..
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:51 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:I don't see why Kaka would sign for a team 15th in the leauge, that have no chance to qualify for the CL, apart from £500K a week.

    Its mostly the ££££.

    Also though, its exciting times at City. By next season they could quite feasibly have a squad of world class players

    It has f***** the transfer market though scratch

    HOW? scratch

    Its certainly made it more exciting but how exactly has it 'fucked' it?
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    Post by mongrel hawk Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:51 pm

    do you think any Brazilian or Argentine who play in Europe do it for footballing reasons? they go there for money only. they are mercenaries, soldiers of fortune earning their money professionally. if they could, they would be playing here. Kaká for São Paulo, Tevez for Boca, Alves for Bahia, etc.

    you see Ronaldo, who played for Madrid/Barça, Milan/Inter. he doesn't give a damn for those teams.


    GianDeano Zola wrote:Exactly TM...there is no way Kaka has gone there for footballing reasons, as it wouldn't make sense. I can't see any good reason for leaving AC Milan to go to Man City...
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:52 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
    I dont, so what next, what is the valuation of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, what about wages.
    What about the upcoming stars, what would Lyon want for Karim, every fucking price in the market increases, what do West Ham would now want for Bellamy of City, 20-25m.

    THIS transfer makes little difference to othe transfers IMO.

    I mean how much do you value Ronaldo at? Kaka, Messi and Ronaldo were always 'priceless' and it would always take an extortionate amount of money to sign them.

    Eh?

    Ronaldo would have probably gone for £60M last season. Now MU will be looking for double that.

    It will also infilate the price of average players also IMO.
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:53 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:I don't see why Kaka would sign for a team 15th in the leauge, that have no chance to qualify for the CL, apart from £500K a week.

    Its mostly the ££££.

    Also though, its exciting times at City. By next season they could quite feasibly have a squad of world class players

    It has f***** the transfer market though scratch

    HOW? scratch

    Its certainly made it more exciting but how exactly has it 'fucked' it?

    See TM's post
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:54 pm

    TM wrote:
    Eh?

    Ronaldo would have probably gone for £60M last season. Now MU will be looking for double that.

    It will also infilate the price of average players also IMO.

    No it won't.

    You would NOT have been able to get Ronaldo for £60m last summer, else you'd have him by now.

    The only prices that will be inflated are for the players that Man city want to sign.

    You can still get Jermaine Pennant for a pittence and the Kaka transfer ain't going to change that.
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    Post by DS Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:54 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.

    I think i'm one of the few that aren't really arsed. Obviously fans of the super rich clubs are up in arms because an inferior club has way more money than them, suddenly they don't like being on the wrong end of an uneven playing field. Rolling Eyes Unlucky is what i say to them. <Ale>
    These 'super-rich' clubs have built that wealth based on success, you had a level playing field, its not their fault you are looking bad.
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    Post by DS Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:56 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.
    I dont, so what next, what is the valuation of Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, what about wages.
    What about the upcoming stars, what would Lyon want for Karim, every fucking price in the market increases, what do West Ham would now want for Bellamy of City, 20-25m.

    THIS transfer makes little difference to othe transfers IMO.

    I mean how much do you value Ronaldo at? Kaka, Messi and Ronaldo were always 'priceless' and it would always take an extortionate amount of money to sign them.

    It will as the money paid by Man City will trickle down, for eg Milan buys a defender and striker from this money, clubs knowing they have money, will ask for more then the worth, plenty more.
    So a cycle starts.

    Apart from the wages, when others will see how much Kaka is paid, dont you think these other mercenaries wont demand that.
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    Post by Fey Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:57 pm

    DS wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.

    I think i'm one of the few that aren't really arsed. Obviously fans of the super rich clubs are up in arms because an inferior club has way more money than them, suddenly they don't like being on the wrong end of an uneven playing field. Rolling Eyes Unlucky is what i say to them. <Ale>
    These 'super-rich' clubs have built that wealth based on success, you had a level playing field, its not their fault you are looking bad.

    Bollocks look at Arsenal's European record at the start of the EPL..its pathetic. Same goes for Chelsea obviously.

    And if there is one team that has money all around it, it has to be utd.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:57 pm

    DS wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.

    I think i'm one of the few that aren't really arsed. Obviously fans of the super rich clubs are up in arms because an inferior club has way more money than them, suddenly they don't like being on the wrong end of an uneven playing field. Rolling Eyes Unlucky is what i say to them. <Ale>
    These 'super-rich' clubs have built that wealth based on success, you had a level playing field, its not their fault you are looking bad.

    Oh please, so Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, Juve and Chelsea have been spending club generated money all these years? Have they bollocks.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:57 pm

    Well its hardly a cycle that is going to wrip the world of football apart Doh

    I'm sure we can all cpe with it and hopefully benefit from it in some way
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:57 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Eh?

    Ronaldo would have probably gone for £60M last season. Now MU will be looking for double that.

    It will also infilate the price of average players also IMO.

    No it won't.

    You would NOT have been able to get Ronaldo for £60m last summer, else you'd have him by now.

    The only prices that will be inflated are for the players that Man city want to sign.

    You can still get Jermaine Pennant for a pittence and the Kaka transfer ain't going to change that.

    We didnt get CR for two reasons.

    1. SAF didnt want to sell him at any price
    2. Ronaldo didnt push for the transfer because he was scared of SAF
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    Post by DS Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:58 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    DS wrote:Black day for football.

    Really?

    I think its great.

    I think i'm one of the few that aren't really arsed. Obviously fans of the super rich clubs are up in arms because an inferior club has way more money than them, suddenly they don't like being on the wrong end of an uneven playing field. Rolling Eyes Unlucky is what i say to them. <Ale>
    These 'super-rich' clubs have built that wealth based on success, you had a level playing field, its not their fault you are looking bad.

    Oh please, so Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, Juve and Chelsea have been spending club generated money all these years? Have they bollocks.
    I thought we were talking about English clubs.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:59 pm

    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Eh?

    Ronaldo would have probably gone for £60M last season. Now MU will be looking for double that.

    It will also infilate the price of average players also IMO.

    No it won't.

    You would NOT have been able to get Ronaldo for £60m last summer, else you'd have him by now.

    The only prices that will be inflated are for the players that Man city want to sign.

    You can still get Jermaine Pennant for a pittence and the Kaka transfer ain't going to change that.

    We didnt get CR for two reasons.

    1. SAF didnt want to sell him at any price
    2. Ronaldo didnt push for the transfer because he was scared of SAF

    Ergo who wouldn't have cost you £60m, proving my point, that these three players were always going to cost stupid amounts of money.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:00 pm

    If Kaka does reject this move…

    Hypothetically in the summer if he feels Milan does not meet his ambitions and he wants to leave what will be his starting price £100m or will it be roughly what it was before the Man City interest especially if a team in the CL comes in for him (i.e. Real Madrid). Because this team can probably match his ambitions in the foreseeable future, something unfortunately Man City cannot and like what has been said the only rational reason he could move to Man City will be for the money (this is not a dig at Man City whatsoever but its facts).

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