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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:47 am

    TM wrote:cheers

    Well atleast you have Antonio Valencia!
    We still will knock you out of the CL, good signing though.
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 am

    So that makes Real's spending past 200 m.
    They said they will spend like 3 summers, even for most big teams 30 m is max they spend on average in 5 summers, so that is like 7 transfer windows worth.
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 am

    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    i rate Aguero has a more gifted player than Benzema and Aguero is different to Tevez but i still feel we need a Benzema type of player more.
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:49 am

    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.
    I rate him highly.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:53 am

    Batman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    i rate Aguero has a more gifted player than Benzema and Aguero is different to Tevez but i still feel we need a Benzema type of player more.

    Well what the fuck is happening with Berbatov? Are you just going to write him off as a flop now?

    I'm sorry but thats £30m flushed down the toilet in a sense, if you don't consider him a vital first teamer now Doh

    IMO you need a SS to play on the other side of Berbatov (to rooney) and you'll be sorted and both Aguero and Pato could do that.
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:54 am

    Berbatov is the SS/10 for me.
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    Post by TM Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:55 am

    It looks like MU will play with a 4-4-2 next year.
    Probably with Berba and Rooney heading the attack, so are they really going to spend £30m on a striker?
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:01 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Batman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    i rate Aguero has a more gifted player than Benzema and Aguero is different to Tevez but i still feel we need a Benzema type of player more.

    Well what the fuck is happening with Berbatov? Are you just going to write him off as a flop now?

    I'm sorry but thats £30m flushed down the toilet in a sense, if you don't consider him a vital first teamer now Doh

    IMO you need a SS to play on the other side of Berbatov (to rooney) and you'll be sorted and both Aguero and Pato could do that.

    i was going to make the same point as DS, Berbatov could play as a SS. Benzema is quicker than Berbatov. make use of Berbatovs creative side.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:04 pm

    Berbatov wouldn't work as a SS in a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 though because he's paceless!

    He'd work as one in a 4-4-2 alongside a pacy point striker but where would that leave Rooney? scratch
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    Post by TM Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:06 pm

    Either AM or LW.
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:08 pm

    ------------------------9-----------

    ---Rooney---------Berba----------Nani/Valencia

    Without Ronaldo, Rooney doesnt need to be defensive, and in the middle we will have a player who has got creativity and who will retain the ball, on the right a pacy outlet.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:09 pm

    Sad

    So basically they'll fuck him over.

    He's no left winger. It kinda worked in the 4-3-3/4-5-1 but playing left wing in a 4-4-2 is completely different.
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:09 pm

    4231
    Sky are reporting that you got him by the way.
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:10 pm

    you could have

    . . . . . . . Carrick

    Valencia . . . . . . . Anderson

    . . . . . . . Rooney

    . . Berbatov . . . Benzema
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    Post by TM Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:10 pm

    DS wrote:4231
    Sky are reporting that you got him by the way.

    Sky only follow the Spanish Press. I.e. Marca.

    Nothing offical I'd rather sign Villa and Benzema, but that doesnt look likely....
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    Post by TM Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:13 pm

    Benzema's agent, Karim Djaziri, has told French radio that a deal has been agreed between the two clubs and that only personal terms and a medical need to be completed to see the move go through.

    Sky Sports.

    Looks like it's actually going to happen.
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:15 pm

    Batman wrote:you could have

    . . . . . . . Carrick

    Valencia . . . . . . . Anderson

    . . . . . . . Rooney

    . . Berbatov . . . Benzema

    That midfield would get raped by decent teams.

    If you play a trio of Valencia-Carrick-Anderson in midfield this season you can wave any chance of the title goodbye ok
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    Post by Batman Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:28 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Batman wrote:you could have

    . . . . . . . Carrick

    Valencia . . . . . . . Anderson

    . . . . . . . Rooney

    . . Berbatov . . . Benzema

    That midfield would get raped by decent teams.

    If you play a trio of Valencia-Carrick-Anderson in midfield this season you can wave any chance of the title goodbye ok

    like last season, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez rarely started a game together.

    SAF would rotate the team and agaisnt a big team Fletcher would be in CM.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:32 pm

    Tears ok
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    Post by elbecko Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:40 pm

    TM wrote:Benzema's agent, Karim Djaziri, has told French radio that a deal has been agreed between the two clubs and that only personal terms and a medical need to be completed to see the move go through.

    Sky Sports.

    Looks like it's actually going to happen.
    It's been updated with the following...

    SkySports wrote:12.34 Lyon have received a big-money offer for Karim Benzema but insist there is no agreement with Real Madrid or any other club for the forward. The plot thickens...
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:43 pm

    Lyon and l'Équipe are saying it's bollocks. They say the big money offer is not from Real, and more probably from Man Utd
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    Post by DS Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:48 pm

    Didnt his agent said that RM has agreed on the deal ?
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:50 pm

    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    Benzema is an out and out centre forward, where as Aguero and Pato are second strikers. At Real there are plenty of SS's we really need a CF. ok

    coming back to this...

    Pato and Aguero have BETTER scoring records than Benzema (over the last two seasons).

    And that's play as second strikers AND in better quality leagues Exclamation

    so...
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:26 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    Benzema is an out and out centre forward, where as Aguero and Pato are second strikers. At Real there are plenty of SS's we really need a CF. ok

    coming back to this...

    Pato and Aguero have BETTER scoring records than Benzema (over the last two seasons).

    And that's play as second strikers AND in better quality leagues Exclamation

    so...

    Rooney should be played as a SS If ManU want to get the best out of him, and I think he has recently expressed his desire to be given that role. Therefore they should be looking at players who can play slightly ahead of him, and Benzema is better in that position than both Aguero and Pato IMO.

    Also from a tactical point of view, Benzema increases your tactical option in comparison to the other two; It doesn't matter whether u play him on his own upfront or alongside a partner, he can be just as devastating(he can even be effective from the wing in a 4-3-3 a la Henry even though he doesn't like playing there), whilst someone like Aguero is only really that effective when u partner him with someone else, he's more of a 4-4-2 player. I'd say the same about Pato to a lesser extent. Even though he's played as the furthest player forward in a 4-3-2-1, I doubt he'll be effective in that role in the premiership.

    And given his size, strengths, pace etc I'd say Benzema's more of a PL player than the other two.

    I hope ManU don't get him. I expect a Torres like improvement in him in the next 24 months.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:30 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    Benzema is an out and out centre forward, where as Aguero and Pato are second strikers. At Real there are plenty of SS's we really need a CF. ok

    coming back to this...

    Pato and Aguero have BETTER scoring records than Benzema (over the last two seasons).

    And that's play as second strikers AND in better quality leagues Exclamation

    so...

    Rooney should be played as a SS If ManU want to get the best out of him, and I think he has recently expressed his desire to be given that role. Therefore they should be looking at players who can play slightly ahead of him, and Benzema is better in that position than both Aguero and Pato IMO.

    Also from a tactical point of view, Benzema increases your tactical option in comparison to the other two; It doesn't matter whether u play him on his own upfront or alongside a partner, he can be just as devastating(he can even be effective from the wing in a 4-3-3 a la Henry even though he doesn't like playing there), whilst someone like Aguero is only really that effective when u partner him with someone else, he's more of a 4-4-2 player. I'd say the same about Pato to a lesser extent. Even though he's played as the furthest player forward in a 4-3-2-1, I doubt he'll be effective in that role in the premiership.

    And given his size, strengths, pace etc I'd say Benzema's more of a PL player than the other two.

    I hope ManU don't get him. I expect a Torres like improvement in him in the next 24 months.

    Bingo. ok

    And Ligue 1 is a high-quality defensive league, Bundesliga or ErieDivisie it ain't.

    Most forwards who've joined the EPL from France normally replicate their rate of scoring anyway.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:37 pm

    MadVillain™️ wrote:
    The Professor wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Well, Benzema is the worst of Aguero, Benzema and Pato IMO. Not a dig at Real, more a silver lining for Utd fans.

    Benzema is an out and out centre forward, where as Aguero and Pato are second strikers. At Real there are plenty of SS's we really need a CF. ok

    coming back to this...

    Pato and Aguero have BETTER scoring records than Benzema (over the last two seasons).

    And that's play as second strikers AND in better quality leagues Exclamation

    so...

    Rooney should be played as a SS If ManU want to get the best out of him, and I think he has recently expressed his desire to be given that role. Therefore they should be looking at players who can play slightly ahead of him, and Benzema is better in that position than both Aguero and Pato IMO.

    Also from a tactical point of view, Benzema increases your tactical option in comparison to the other two; It doesn't matter whether u play him on his own upfront or alongside a partner, he can be just as devastating(he can even be effective from the wing in a 4-3-3 a la Henry even though he doesn't like playing there), whilst someone like Aguero is only really that effective when u partner him with someone else, he's more of a 4-4-2 player. I'd say the same about Pato to a lesser extent. Even though he's played as the furthest player forward in a 4-3-2-1, I doubt he'll be effective in that role in the premiership.

    And given his size, strengths, pace etc I'd say Benzema's more of a PL player than the other two.

    I hope ManU don't get him. I expect a Torres like improvement in him in the next 24 months.

    Bingo. ok

    And Ligue 1 is a high-quality defensive league, Bundesliga or ErieDivisie it ain't.

    Most forwards who've joined the EPL from France normally replicate their rate of scoring anyway.

    ok Ale
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:39 pm

    Benzemas scoring record doesn't exactly surprise me when you see how many goals that are generally scored in France. It is a very negative league with highly talented players. Think it would be a mistake by Man Utd going for Aguero unless they want a new Tevez-Rooney like combo. Benzema would have been perfect really but you can thank Valencia for this.
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    Post by TM Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:43 pm

    Tbh.

    A move to MU and the EPL would be the best choice for Benzema. At United he will develop a lot faster and more so the leauge suits him totally; pace and power.

    He's already a clinical finisher he would be a big hit in the EPL.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:47 pm

    TM wrote:Tbh.

    A move to MU and the EPL would be the best choice for Benzema. At United he will develop a lot faster and more so the leauge suits him totally; pace and power.

    He's already a clinical finisher he would be a big hit in the EPL.
    That is true but I think he seems to me like the type that would fit all 3 top leagues. He is a Real Madrid fan so im fine with it. I would have loved Villa but Benzema is fine aswell since he is a little bigger so we have somebody top cross to.
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:47 pm

    Exactly but he's expressed numerous times to play in La Liga over the EPL. And as Agooner mentioned he is like a Torres play in the sense that his attributes suit the league but he also has very impressive technique and wouldn't look out of place in La Liga.

    A partnership of him and Higuian would work a treat but maybe it's wishful thinking with the players you've already bought Sad

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