Real Madrid C.F. 2009/10

Alive and Kicking wrote:Is that defeat too much for Peligrini? It's certainly not good for him. Madrid fans, what are your thoughts on him? Do you want to keep him or have someone better?

Torrente wrote:

Jaime wrote:4-0. What a disgrace. I haven't seen the match yet, will try and watch it but the scoreline speaks for itself. Last year Real Union. A few years back Toledo. Despicable attitude towards this competition.

Tonight was much worse. Honestly, we could have lost 9-1 and we wouldn't have been able to complain. The entire team just played the entire first half jogging, with Guti being the main culprit of this, showing yet again why he should not be allowed to wear the Real Madrid shirt again out of principle alone. To think this guy is our second captain ahead of Casillas

Once Raul was taken out the team finally started to create chances, but our play didn't really improve since the players looked like headless chickens running around the field. At no stage did I see any kind of tactics by Real Madrid tonight.

My stream was a bit crap and I didn't watch the last 30 minutes so I'm not sure about it, but in Punto Pelota they were saying that VDV was the only Madrid player who ran the whole game and had a decent performance.
If that's the case then Pellegrini should show at least a bit of personality and start him in the next few games to send out a message.

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Jaime wrote:

Lo destituyan o no, una cosa está clara: Pellegrini ha fracasado

Manuel Pellegrini tiene desde anoche el dudoso honor de haber llevado al Real Madrid a escribir una de las páginas deportivas más bochornosas de su historia. El rotundo e inapelable 4-0 encajado ante un heroico-modesto equipo de Segunda división B, el Alcorcón, supone “una vergüenza” como el propio Ingeniero reconoció después del vapuleo.

Las derrotas ante Sevilla y Milán y el empate frente al Sporting han desembocado en este humillante marcador, que ha obligado a Jorge Valdano a pedir “perdón al madridismo”. Un gesto demasiado elocuente para entender el profundo significado de esta derrota en el seno blanco.

Pellegrini ha generado una situación insostenible con su incapacidad para construir un equipo. Él es el responsable de esta situación porque es él quien no ha hecho los deberes. Florentino ha cumplido su parte: el Madrid ha realizado un desembolso económico sin precedentes para dar a su técnico una plantilla que es la envidia de Europa. Sin embargo, Jorge Valdano se apresuró ayer a reclamar unión y serenidad, ratificando verbalmente al técnico chileno. Si la goleada fue el notición del día, la segunda gran noticia en el estadio de Santo Domingo fue, precisamente, la continuidad de Pellegrini.

El permanente estado de construcción del equipo está provocando ya demasiadas dudas en el madridismo. Cierto es que la eliminatoria no está definitivamente sentenciada y que el Madrid apelará al miedo escénico y a la heroica para darle la vuelta al marcador dentro de 15 días, pero con El Ingeniero en el banquillo esa machada se hace menos creíble.

La soberana paliza de ayer ha demostrado que el chileno ha fracasado al frente del Madrid. A pesar de ello, y salvo nuevas reflexiones en frío, parece que Florentino y Valdano van a seguir jugándose esa carta en el banquillo. Habrá que ver el sábado qué piensa el Santiago Bernabéu.

http://www.marca.com/2009/10/28/diario_marca/1256720663.html

kas wrote:Well, based on the highlights, I don't think the problem is anything to do with the team setup, tactics, type of players, etc. This game doesn't indicate any kind of long term trend either. The only 2 things I would conclude are:

1. That lineup was quite poor if you think about it. Individually of course there was 10x more talent than Alcorcon, but there were no partnerships between players in key positions on the pitch, there was no leader (Raul doesn't count any more), and there was no difference maker like Ronaldo or Kaka who can hit it from long range and change the rhythm of the game.

2. The Madrid players didn't put any physical effort in and thought they would get away with it. This could be down to coaching, or as the polls suggest, the players themselves.

Playing canteranos would have made a difference as they would fight for their spot (and would also automatically create partnerships on the pitch between kids who know each other's play), but the way the Madrid squad is, most of the players out there yesterday knew their performance wouldn't matter - they would remain as 2nd choice behind the big names.

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Ronaldo is injured. Things were going in the right direction before he was injured. Pellegrini wanted Benzema, but who could have foreseen how poor he would be. And Kaka has been fairly good (though not in the last two weeks). What you didn't account for are lazy sh!ts like Guti, sh!te players like Drenthe staying, and lots of injuries. Thanks for trying to analyse our problems though.

Axeslammer wrote:Imagine how much they're going to spend in the winter

Probably over 500 M...

Still won't do them any good

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Ronaldo is injured. Things were going in the right direction before he was injured. Pellegrini wanted Benzema, but who could have foreseen how poor he would be. And Kaka has been fairly good (though not in the last two weeks). What you didn't account for are lazy sh!ts like Guti, sh!te players like Drenthe staying, and lots of injuries. Thanks for trying to analyse our problems though.

things were never going in the right direction, you were basically a one man team.

Fairly good isn't good enough.

I don't need to account for guti and the likes because we already knew they were shit.

real have started a new project, and have bought players that doesn't fit, without ronaldo's goals, what you will get, is what you have been getting since his injury.

SHIT.

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Ronaldo is injured. Things were going in the right direction before he was injured. Pellegrini wanted Benzema, but who could have foreseen how poor he would be. And Kaka has been fairly good (though not in the last two weeks). What you didn't account for are lazy sh!ts like Guti, sh!te players like Drenthe staying, and lots of injuries. Thanks for trying to analyse our problems though.

things were never going in the right direction, you were basically a one man team.

Fairly good isn't good enough.

I don't need to account for guti and the likes because we already knew they were shit.

real have started a new project, and have bought players that doesn't fit, without ronaldo's goals, what you will get, is what you have been getting since his injury.

SHIT.

Maybe when you are done sucking Puyol's d!ck you'll be able to think about this clearly.

We were a 'one man team' in the same way you were completely dependent on Ronaldinho in Rijkaard's first term as manager. It takes time to build a project. You don't become a great team over night and in the meanwhile if you have a superstar that can save your ass and win games for you, you are lucky.

Why isn't fairly good, good enough? Again you are deluded enough to think that Kaka is going to come in and set the world alight in the first three months? Zidane was absolute sh!t for the first 4 months he was in Madrid. He came good but you have to give a player time to adapt to a new team, a new country, everything.

Now, I leave you to go back to tickling Carles' arsehole.

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Ronaldo is injured. Things were going in the right direction before he was injured. Pellegrini wanted Benzema, but who could have foreseen how poor he would be. And Kaka has been fairly good (though not in the last two weeks). What you didn't account for are lazy sh!ts like Guti, sh!te players like Drenthe staying, and lots of injuries. Thanks for trying to analyse our problems though.

things were never going in the right direction, you were basically a one man team.

Fairly good isn't good enough.

I don't need to account for guti and the likes because we already knew they were shit.

real have started a new project, and have bought players that doesn't fit, without ronaldo's goals, what you will get, is what you have been getting since his injury.

SHIT.

Maybe when you are done sucking Puyol's d!ck you'll be able to think about this clearly.

We were a 'one man team' in the same way you were completely dependent on Ronaldinho in Rijkaard's first term as manager. It takes time to build a project. You don't become a great team over night and in the meanwhile if you have a superstar that can save your ass and win games for you, you are lucky.

Why isn't fairly good, good enough? Again you are deluded enough to think that Kaka is going to come in and set the world alight in the first three months? Zidane was absolute sh!t for the first 4 months he was in Madrid. He came good but you have to give a player time to adapt to a new team, a new country, everything.

Now, I leave you to go back to tickling Carles' arsehole.

someone is getting testy, don't worry you will turn things around, once you moved on to your 3rd manager for the season.

until then, real are just shit, without ronaldo's goals, because someone went out and bought, the wrong set of tools for the job.

testy testy

Torrente wrote:I can't think of a press that does more damage to a team than Madrid's press.

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:

Messiah wrote:i said it in the preseason, that they players bought would not fit his system, but some said, who wouldn't be happy with the likes of kaka,benzema and ronaldo.

a manager that doesn't think they fit his tactics, all that well is who.

i said, madrid would play a type of football, that would see them get forward at every opportunity, because that's what the like of ronaldo and kaka do, but the reverse of that is that they will have no control over games, and the opposition will have ample time and space to hit them back.

Silva and iniesta in a ideal world is what Pellegrini, would really have wanted, are at least silva.

Never buy players, your manager didn't ask you for, no matter how good they are.

Ronaldo is injured. Things were going in the right direction before he was injured. Pellegrini wanted Benzema, but who could have foreseen how poor he would be. And Kaka has been fairly good (though not in the last two weeks). What you didn't account for are lazy sh!ts like Guti, sh!te players like Drenthe staying, and lots of injuries. Thanks for trying to analyse our problems though.

things were never going in the right direction, you were basically a one man team.

Fairly good isn't good enough.

I don't need to account for guti and the likes because we already knew they were shit.

real have started a new project, and have bought players that doesn't fit, without ronaldo's goals, what you will get, is what you have been getting since his injury.

SHIT.

Jaime wrote:Benzema has been quite poor. The only time he has really looked the part was against Tenerife. He showed a lot of good signs in preseason but has not been able to find anything closely resembling form since.