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John Terry dropped as England captain
Glenarch of the Glen- Number of posts : 30157
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wait, isn't there already a
debaser- Number of posts : 22064
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@ Terry.
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David James or Wayne Rooney for captain, says I
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David James or Wayne Rooney for captain, says I
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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So bookies say
Gerrard 4/7
Rooney 15/8
Rio 8/1
IMO Rooney captain would be a huge mistake.
Becks is 33/1. Looks good to me he'd never have an affair!
Gerrard 4/7
Rooney 15/8
Rio 8/1
IMO Rooney captain would be a huge mistake.
Becks is 33/1. Looks good to me he'd never have an affair!
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So if its Gerrard, are the FA admitting that beating up a DJ and fighting some youths is fine when its compared to adultery? This is a great message to send to the younger generations.
Or missing a drugs test and being banned for it is fine compared to sleeping around.
Rooney would be a mistake too, the world cup is already on his shoulders, no need to make him captain and have him have even more pressure.
Or missing a drugs test and being banned for it is fine compared to sleeping around.
Rooney would be a mistake too, the world cup is already on his shoulders, no need to make him captain and have him have even more pressure.
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
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Didn't Beckham have a bit of an affair with
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Ashley Cole for captain says I.
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Ashley Cole for captain says I.
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Forgetting to go to one drugs test about 6 years ago is hardly comparable to sleeping with a teammates bitch when you have a wife dude. I agree on Gerrard though.
It's definitely a strange one because nobody seems right for the role.
It's definitely a strange one because nobody seems right for the role.
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Rio is captain.
TM- Number of posts : 21218
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Bah. Silly knee jerk descision to the media crap.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
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TM wrote:Bah. Silly knee jerk descision to the media crap.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
Capello knows what he's doing, he's not a novice, his mothers milk isn't still wet on his lips. He will have talked to some senior players and found out what the squad is thinking, and he will have based his opinion on it.
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my ranking:
1. hargreaves
2. barry
3. defoe
1. hargreaves
2. barry
3. defoe
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Özil wrote:my ranking:
3. defoe
Bad enough you've got Hargreaves who's not played in years but Defoe!?
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Kimbo wrote:TM wrote:Bah. Silly knee jerk descision to the media crap.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
Capello knows what he's doing, he's not a novice, his mothers milk isn't still wet on his lips. He will have talked to some senior players and found out what the squad is thinking, and he will have based his opinion on it.
Well if you believe what you read, Gerrard/Lamps/Rooney didnt want the arm band, wanted JT as the captain blah blah blah.
I think the descision should have been made purely on footballing reasons. And we all know JT is the best leader within the squad.
Italians usually have a thing for defenders as captains, so I'm guessing Rio "brap" Ferdinand will be the next skipper.
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Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Özil wrote:my ranking:
1. hargreaves
2. barry
3. defoe
What about Dean Ashton and Horatio Nelson?
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TM wrote:Kimbo wrote:TM wrote:Bah. Silly knee jerk descision to the media crap.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
Capello knows what he's doing, he's not a novice, his mothers milk isn't still wet on his lips. He will have talked to some senior players and found out what the squad is thinking, and he will have based his opinion on it.
Well if you believe what you read, Gerrard/Lamps/Rooney didnt want the arm band, wanted JT as the captain blah blah blah.
I think the descision should have been made purely on footballing reasons. And we all know JT is the best leader within the squad.
Italians usually have a thing for defenders as captains, so I'm guess Rio "brap" Ferdinand will be the next skipper.
He WAS the best leader in the squad. 90% of being a leader is about commanding respect. Don't pretend you know what the squad are thinking, Capello knows what he's doing and whatever he decides is fine with me.
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1. Rio Ferdinand
2. Steven Gerrard
3. Wayne Rooney
4. Frank Lampard
Only possible candidates I can see. I'd hate it to be Lampard plus he might not accept with his best mate just losing the role.
Rooney will get the armband one day so it could make sense, however as people have said he's got far too much expectation already.
Has to be Gerrard or Ferdinand but then neither have been shining examples in their careers off the pitch either & Gerrard has never even played well for England on a consistent basis.
Touch choice but I do think Terry had to be dropped as captain, especially with more revelations on the way.
2. Steven Gerrard
3. Wayne Rooney
4. Frank Lampard
Only possible candidates I can see. I'd hate it to be Lampard plus he might not accept with his best mate just losing the role.
Rooney will get the armband one day so it could make sense, however as people have said he's got far too much expectation already.
Has to be Gerrard or Ferdinand but then neither have been shining examples in their careers off the pitch either & Gerrard has never even played well for England on a consistent basis.
Touch choice but I do think Terry had to be dropped as captain, especially with more revelations on the way.
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It's already been chosen it's Rio ffs
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Kimbo wrote:TM wrote:Kimbo wrote:TM wrote:Bah. Silly knee jerk descision to the media crap.
Terry is easily the best man for the job.
Capello knows what he's doing, he's not a novice, his mothers milk isn't still wet on his lips. He will have talked to some senior players and found out what the squad is thinking, and he will have based his opinion on it.
Well if you believe what you read, Gerrard/Lamps/Rooney didnt want the arm band, wanted JT as the captain blah blah blah.
I think the descision should have been made purely on footballing reasons. And we all know JT is the best leader within the squad.
Italians usually have a thing for defenders as captains, so I'm guess Rio "brap" Ferdinand will be the next skipper.
He WAS the best leader in the squad. 90% of being a leader is about commanding respect. Don't pretend you know what the squad are thinking, Capello knows what he's doing and whatever he decides is fine with me.
I wasn't...
Point taken tho', probably would have been a tad difficult to take JT seriously after this whole ordeal, esp if he's barking orders at you on the pitch.
Rio has been confirmed, decent enough choice
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L r dd wrote:It's already been chosen it's Rio ffs
I'm fine with that. It's not going to be the most popular choice though and I expect a few people/journalists to bring up his missed drugs test again.
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lol what a bunch of loosers left
gerrard: whos every year in the medias because he loves to fight
rooney: a men who becomes in every tournament a black out
ferdinand: his flaws for england are legendary
fat frank: his shittness for england even more
gerrard: whos every year in the medias because he loves to fight
rooney: a men who becomes in every tournament a black out
ferdinand: his flaws for england are legendary
fat frank: his shittness for england even more
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Parks lives wrote:L r dd wrote:It's already been chosen it's Rio ffs
I'm fine with that. It's not going to be the most popular choice though and I expect a few people/journalists to bring up his missed drugs test again.
I would have thought his fitness would be more of an issue.
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You fucking were you little gypsy
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L r dd wrote:So bookies say
Gerrard 4/7 - Superman MBE beating up a DJ with his mates
Rooney 15/8 - shagging grannies, cursing at refs (also in a bar fight? )
Rio 8/1 - forgot drug test, merke'd
A. Cole - Irresponsible driver, adulterer
Becks - Old, married Posh
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Özil wrote:lol what a bunch of loosers left
gerrard: whos every year in the medias because he loves to fight
rooney: a men who becomes in every tournament a black out
ferdinand: his flaws for england are legendary
fat frank: his shittness for england even more
Performance wise, he's superb. The last two World Cups he's been one of the best defenders in the competition.
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Has Rio had the armband for United often?
And how were his performances as player and captain those times?
And how were his performances as player and captain those times?
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Ferdinand was awesome 8 years ago
my recent memories of him in an England shirt are the Holland game and the Ukraine game.
my recent memories of him in an England shirt are the Holland game and the Ukraine game.
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Loads, when Neville was out injured he was back up to Giggs for a season and a half and been captain in at least 25 or more games. Never noticed a drop in performance myself.
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he was captain for United's Champions League win in 2008
the word on the street is that he's not too fussed about football these days and is more interested in his tv, film, music, clothing and charity projects.
the word on the street is that he's not too fussed about football these days and is more interested in his tv, film, music, clothing and charity projects.
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Wenger - Role of the captain is overplayed
By Nick Teale
Arsène Wenger believes the role of captain isn't as important in football as some people make out.
The manager feels that the influence of a skipper is overplayed in England because the player who leads the side out before a match cannot have much impact on other players once the game kicks off.
Wenger acknowledges that captaincy is more relevant in other major team sports, such as rugby and cricket, but he has his doubts that the ‘armband' really matters in football.
"Yes [captaincy] is overplayed, without a doubt," said the manager.
"[You have to make] an instant decision in a very quick time. The captain has no time to interfere with the individual decisions of the players on the pitch.
"Maybe in some other sports like rugby the captain has a bit more freedom and importance than in football."
Wenger also offered his take on why the role of team captain is deemed so important in English sport. He believes it could be down to the history of the country.
"Maybe it has historical roots in battles and fighting," he said. "Certainly the captain had always traditionally in the history of England, a big role and a big importance.
"I like that, but team sport is linked with recent history, the 20th Century. Before you had no team sport, it turned up with democracy. Before that, it was all fighting, and so maybe it is linked with historical roots."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-role-of-the-captain-is-overplayed
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Couldn't agree more.
It always baffles why so much importance is placed on the role of captains. Should England underform at the WC you'll no doubt hear people link it with Terry losing the captaincy.
By Nick Teale
Arsène Wenger believes the role of captain isn't as important in football as some people make out.
The manager feels that the influence of a skipper is overplayed in England because the player who leads the side out before a match cannot have much impact on other players once the game kicks off.
Wenger acknowledges that captaincy is more relevant in other major team sports, such as rugby and cricket, but he has his doubts that the ‘armband' really matters in football.
"Yes [captaincy] is overplayed, without a doubt," said the manager.
"[You have to make] an instant decision in a very quick time. The captain has no time to interfere with the individual decisions of the players on the pitch.
"Maybe in some other sports like rugby the captain has a bit more freedom and importance than in football."
Wenger also offered his take on why the role of team captain is deemed so important in English sport. He believes it could be down to the history of the country.
"Maybe it has historical roots in battles and fighting," he said. "Certainly the captain had always traditionally in the history of England, a big role and a big importance.
"I like that, but team sport is linked with recent history, the 20th Century. Before you had no team sport, it turned up with democracy. Before that, it was all fighting, and so maybe it is linked with historical roots."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-role-of-the-captain-is-overplayed
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Couldn't agree more.
It always baffles why so much importance is placed on the role of captains. Should England underform at the WC you'll no doubt hear people link it with Terry losing the captaincy.
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You should be fine then.Parks lives wrote:Loads, when Neville was out injured he was back up to Giggs for a season and a half and been captain in at least 25 or more games. Never noticed a drop in performance myself.
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The Professor wrote:
It always baffles why so much importance is placed on the role of captains.
well let's save you from getting anymore saliva on your shoes, stop that mouthbrathing and I'll explain it to you.
If England win the World Cup the photograph of the England captain will become an iconic image for years to come
so we don't really want someone with such a dodgy public profile as the face of the nation for years to come