FC BAYERN 2011/12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht7Kf7eCzE4&feature=youtu.be

blutgraetsche wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht7Kf7eCzE4&feature=youtu.be

i think its a very hard group, but the new bayern compactness makes me feel confident

villa and napoli try to play football, that should give us more space then in the bundesliga

from individual class city is as good as bayern (at least from starting 11 view), much will depend on EINGESPIELTHEIT, tactic and luck

to get out of the group as number 1 is vital, with our draw luck we get barca, real or united

I agree that the improved defence will help you tremendously in the CL. Another thing is that Bayern seem less reliant on Robbery this season. Müller is a more established and mature player than he was in the very successful first season under Van Gaal, and he and to a lesser degree Kroos (still not there yet) can compensate their absence, at least against most sides. Heynckes' rotation helps a lot, too, especially in the league where Bayern take full advantage of their superior squad, similar to the Hitzfeld days.

However, Bayern have not been properly challenged yet. They've yet to play against some of the best Bundesliga sides. Still huge favourites to win the league, but that was clear before the season had started.

The least I expect from Bayern in the CL is to make the second round. Experience will help you against City, but they really are very strong. If you manage to win the tough group, it should give your team a considerable confidence boost that could take you very far this season.

thats true, the robbery addiction is not as distinctive as in the last years, thats a big plus

the problem is our bench, when one of our front 4 get injured, there is not much quality left in our attack, only kroos, and the very unproven usami and petersen

also alaba was a pretty let down against kaiserslautern

compared to city, this looks like 2nd division material

Well, compared to City, only two other clubs in Europe can compete as far as strength in depth is concerned. They have one of the most expensive squads ever.

However, your first XI is one of the strongest in Europe also IMHO. And you have much more experience in the CL, that could be the decisive factor.

But yes, against City, you need all your key players to be fit.

Allez les rouges wrote:Well the disagreement is pretty clear on this one. We shall see who is right

you were right, i was wrong

Kroos wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:Well the disagreement is pretty clear on this one. We shall see who is right

you were right, i was wrong

Bullshit

Why? Kroos was wrong about Schweinsteiger (never understood that agenda anyway to be honest) and you were right. Kroos admitting that is a great showing, otto in particular could learn a thing or two in that regard. Respect.

1000 apologies, I literally read that the wrong way round. Bring mir bitte englisch bei

Sorry Kroos

Perhaps you've been spending too much time with the English... their incessant sarcasm can be contagious!

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/fc-bayern-muenchen/article13613899/So-bereiten-sich-die-Bayern-auf-den-Wiesn-Besuch-vor.html

click yourself through those Lederhosenboys

Interesting analysis of Bayern under Heynckes, the differences to the Van Gaal era and the reasons why they are so dominant and strong so far this season:

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1109/Artikel/fc-bayern-muenchen-datenanalyse-jupp-heynckes-balleroberung-umschalten-toni-kroos-franck-ribery-louis-van-gaal.html

Read this somewhere and sorry if I'm late, Bayern haven't concede any goals for 8 games, which is a little record, and the last time they did that they won the championship. It's not so much of a surprise since Bayern have invested a lot on the defense. With Neuer and co they now have a very efficient defense..
I think Bayern will be very difficult to beat this year. I watched a few games, 2 in fact the preliminaries of the C.L and the first or second game of Bundesliga, and I was not too impressed. Gomez was missing everything. Now, he's much better and score tons. Sucks that there is always a good player injured, it's important nowadays to have good automatism. When will Robben be back?

There's always Robben who is injured... most of the other guys are usually around.

will be interesting to see what they do with Robben when he comes back

the Schweini, Kroos, Müller, Ribery... combo is working so well that it's almost unimaginable anyone gets dropped

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meanwhile

http://tvtotal.prosieben.de/tvtotal/videos/player/index.html?contentId=121896&initialTab=sendung&showId=1652-00

indeed, its unfair to drop one of kroos or müller, but hes our messi, hes a superstar that everyone fears, so he has to play from the start when he is fit enough

Alive and Kicking wrote:Read this somewhere and sorry if I'm late, Bayern haven't concede any goals for 8 games, which is a little record, and the last time they did that they won the championship. It's not so much of a surprise since Bayern have invested a lot on the defense. With Neuer and co they now have a very efficient defense..
I think Bayern will be very difficult to beat this year. I watched a few games, 2 in fact the preliminaries of the C.L and the first or second game of Bundesliga, and I was not too impressed. Gomez was missing everything. Now, he's much better and score tons. Sucks that there is always a good player injured, it's important nowadays to have good automatism. When will Robben be back?

this was the 99 season, which ended really bad with the cl final loss


robben is in training with the team, jupp thinks he could play against leverkusen and city, it all depends on how robben trains this week

toni kroos interview

http://www.merkur-online.de/sport/fc-bayern/toni-kroos-wir-sind-alle-gluecklichmacher-1415071.html


Die Medien waren zuletzt voll des Lobes für Özil und Götze – Löw sagte mehrfach: „Vergesst mir den Toni Kroos nicht!“

Der Bundestrainer hat gesehen, dass ich wichtige Spiele gegen Große wie Brasilien gemeistert habe. Die Medien sehen gerne nur das Spektakuläre, aber es ist schön, dass die Trainer alles ein bisschen breiter einschätzen können.


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have to say hes right about the medias and fans, xavi would have deserved 2 WPOTY awards

i think in the next 10 years kroos will be the most important midfielder for germany



Gibt es bestimmte Spieler in der Welt, an denen Sie sich orientieren?

Da sind wir wieder beim Thema „Zwischenspieler“: Xavi und Iniesta sind auch Zwischenspieler, die immer wieder ihre Plätze tauschen. Sie üben das in Perfektion aus, wir machen es . . . naja sagen wir mal: derzeit schon sehr gut. Auf deren Level zu kommen, muss unser Ziel sein.

Beschreiben Sie mal die Anforderung an Ihre Aufgabe im Spielzentrum.

Das Wichtigste ist, dass man sich den Raum schon sucht, bevor man den Ball hat. Zudem sollte man bereits vor der Annahme ein, zwei Ideen im Kopf haben. Sonst wird es schwer – Mittelfeld, das ist heutzutage ja wirklich Millimeterarbeit. Wenn du da einen Ball nicht auf Anhieb gut verarbeitest, ist die Situation meist schon verloren. Ich versuche, mich schon mit der Annahme nach vorne zu drehen, damit ich das Spiel vor mir habe. In der Situation ist der Gegner ja noch oft unsortiert, da muss man fix sein.


Sie spielen gern direkt und beidfüßig. Das haben Sie einst mit Ihrem Papa in Extraschichten trainiert.

Wir haben Torabschluss und Passsequenzen geübt, und dabei immer darauf geachtet, dass alle Übungen mit beiden Füßen gemacht werden. Es ist ein Riesenvorteil, wenn man sich den Ball nicht immer erst auf den starken Fuß legen muss, nicht nur beim Schießen, auch beim Passspiel. Gerade im modernen Fußball, der Zeitfenster für Entscheidungen immer mehr verengt.

What is going on with Breno? In custody and questioned regarding possible arson, this all sounds very strange.

its really strange, now hes in investigative custody

they think he burned wilfully his house

the trigger could be his knee, which is swollen again, and he was drunk when the house burned down

maybe he has depression or somthing similar

http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/fussball/bildergalerie7.html?i=0

Some fine penetration in the Bayern box last weekend!

http://www.bild.de/news/leserreporter/erregung-oeffentlichen-aergernisses/was-leser-reporter-tag-fuer-tag-in-deutschland-erleben-19333092.bild.html

Fey wrote:Some fine penetration in the Bayern box last weekend!

http://www.bild.de/news/leserreporter/erregung-oeffentlichen-aergernisses/was-leser-reporter-tag-fuer-tag-in-deutschland-erleben-19333092.bild.html

fack thats me






http://www.tz-online.de/sport/fc-bayern/philipp-lahm-kroos-spielt-iniesta-1433384.html

Philipp Lahm: "Kroos spielt wie Iniesta"


t: "Er ist jetzt das, was man einen kompletten Spieler nennt." Lahm scheut auch nicht den Vergleich zu einem der besten Spieler der Welt: Andrés Iniesta vom Champions League-Sieger FC Barcelona. Laut dem Bayern-Regisseur habe Toni Kroos "ähnliche Fähigkeiten." Der 21-Jährige sei unter Druck anspielbar, beidfüßig und beherrsche den Tempowechesel und ist von daher "vom Typ mit Iniesta vergleichbar", so Lahm. Jedoch relativiert er schnell: "Iniesta spielt seit vielen Jahren auf hohem Niveau und Toni steht erst am Anfang dieser Entwicklung."

Kroos is more of a Xavi than an Iniesta for me. He lacks the effortless dribbling skills at a high pace of the latter.

Still a long way to go for him though. I like his risky passing style, but he really has to improve the precision, needs to find the right balance between a backwards / sideways pass to secure possession and a risky through ball attempt. He often loses the ball too easily that way, resulting in dangerous situations for the defence.

blutgraetsche wrote:Kroos is more of a Xavi than an Iniesta for me. He lacks the effortless dribbling skills at a high pace of the latter.

Still a long way to go for him though. I like his risky passing style, but he really has to improve the precision, needs to find the right balance between a backwards / sideways pass to secure possession and a risky through ball attempt. He often loses the ball too easily that way, resulting in dangerous situations for the defence.

agree, hes more a xavi than an iniesta, i also agree on his weak points

xavi and iniesta reached there world class status in 2008, xavi was 28, iniesta was 24

kroos is born in 1990, so he has plenty of him, and i am really happy with his progress

His first touch is top notch and most importantly, like Özil, he already knows where to pass to before he receives the ball. His touch is actually even better than Özil's, he almost never loses the ball when he receives it, but has to learn to do the simple things at the right time, something Özil does exceptionally well. Özil is actually more similar to Iniesta for me.

But forget the comparisons, I'd be very happy if both could form a similarly successful partnership for Germany, doing it in their very own style.

My main complaints with Kroos are his excessive shooting at range and his diving... he's certainly a very talented player overall, though.