Real Madrid CF 2012/13

ZUM GLÜCK GEHT DIESER KELCH AN UNS VORBEI

No, I really don't want him here. I know that a lot of people love the drama he brings, especially in England, but I can really do without the poison and viciousness that comes with appointing him. Even when ignoring his managerial qualities at football ideals, he's a despicable human being, full of himself and the opposite of what sport should be about, sportsmanship.

Kroos wrote:ZUM GLÜCK GEHT DIESER KELCH AN UNS VORBEI

Wahre Geschichte.

blutgraetsche wrote:I think it's possible that he'll never return to Spain.

And I'm actually glad that he'll never manage a Bundesliga team, as he said in the past.

I would be very surprised if he ever returned to Spain.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Kroos wrote:ZUM GLÜCK GEHT DIESER KELCH AN UNS VORBEI

Wahre Geschichte.

What does it mean?????

Meanwhile, reports breaking that we are negotiating for Isco!

Jaime wrote:Meanwhile, reports breaking that we are negotiating for Isco!

Here's to real PROGRESS.

Fuck off Khedira and Essien.

Fuck off EPL.

Jonah and the Whale wrote:

Jaime wrote:Meanwhile, reports breaking that we are negotiating for Isco!

Here's to real PROGRESS.

Fuck off Khedira and Essien.

Jaime wrote:

blutgraetsche wrote:

Kroos wrote:ZUM GLÜCK GEHT DIESER KELCH AN UNS VORBEI

Wahre Geschichte.

What does it mean?????

"Fortunately, this cup has passed from us."

List of beefs that Jose had with various players since 2010.

Pedro Leon - for being lazy and for not taking a free kick the way Jose wanted
Dani Carvajal - for arriving 5 minutes late for a bus in preseason 2010
Karim Benzema - called him a kitty cat for playing like a pussy
Nuri Sahin - for being a lazy f*cker, made him play left back to prove he was not wanted
Sami Khedira - blamed for the loss away to Levante when he picked up a red card
Ricardo Carvalho - sent to train with Castilla in preseason to demonstrate that he was no longer wanted
Mesut Ozil - substituted at half time against Deportivo for being shit
Kaka - said certain players (i.e. Kaka!) thought they were too good to play Copa del Rey match against Celta in the rain
Sergio Ramos - for taking a penalty against the managers judgement, for wearing Ozil's shirt under his, blamed for the goal by Welbeck and a goal against Sevilla
Marcelo - dropped for eating too much turron over christmas
Iker Casillas - dropped for 'leaking' stories to the press
Antonio Adan - went from being better than Casillas to not even making the match squad
Gonzalo Higuain - penalised one day of vacation for failing to score in 5 straight matches
Angel Di Maria - criticised for being shit ever since he got a big pay raise
Pepe - dropped after criticising Jose regarding the Casillas situation, Jose says his problem is Varane
Ronaldo - criticised for being "sad" at the beginning of the season and not playing up to capability costing points in early going

Jaime wrote:
Karim Benzema - called him a kitty cat for playing like a pussy

Analysis of the signings during Florentino's 3rd mandate.

Ronaldo (Man Utd - €94m) - Signed by Ramon Calderon, has scored 146 goals in 135 official appearances, brings the club a ton of revenue.
Kaka (Milan - €65m) - Signed by Florentino Perez, has been shit.
Karim Benzema (Lyon - €35m) - Signed by Florentino and Jorge Valdano after refusing to pay Valencia 5m more for David Villa. 54 goals in 123 matches. Taught us that you can't go hunting with a cat.
Xabi Alonso (Liverpool -/ €30m) - Signed by Valdano and Pellegrini. One of the best signings of the last 4 years. Starting to show his age. Has also accumulated a lot of minutes in the last 4 years due to the fact we have no other midfielders (until Modric) who could pass the ball.
Esteban Granero (Getafe - €4,5m) - Signed by Valdano and Pellegrini. Was a useful squad player for the money. Didn't get as many chances as he probably deserved.
Alvaro Arbeloa (Liverpool - €4,5m) - Signed by Valdano and Pellegrini, for the money he has been for the most part a very reliable full back. Does not give a lot going forward but until the last 6 months hardly ever made mistakes in defense.

Sergio Canales (Racing - €4,5m) - Signed by Valdano, never in Jose's plans, at least we sold him for a profit.
Angel Di Maria (Benfica - €25m) - Signed by Jose. Overall he's provided a lot of goals and a lot of assists and almost always works his ass off whenever he is on the pitch. There have been much worse signings.
Pedro Leon (Getafe - €10m) - Signed by Valdano, looked to have a promising future until that fateful free kick. Never heard from again. Basically 10m euro down the toilet.
Sami Khedira (Stuttgart - €12m) - Signed by Jose. Runs his ass off that much must be said. Has an occasional moment. Passing not really good enough. Should have signed Javi Martinez instead.
Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea - €8m) - Signed by Jose. Helped out a lot his first season giving some direction to the backline. Really helped Marcelo in particular telling him where to go. Injured most of last season. Cast off in the third season.
Mesut Ozil (Bremen - €15m) - Signed by Jose over David Silva. Incredibly talented and incredibly inconsistent. Will be 25 next season and had damn well better put on his big boy pants.

Nuri Sahin (Dortmund - €10m) - Signed by Jose. He even phoned him in Germany. Was injured and then Jose realised he was not that good. Loaned to Liverpool who also realised he wasn't that good. Back to Dortmund where he continues to be not that good. Probably a waste of 10m euro.
Hamit Altintop (Bayern - free) - Signed by Jose to be his "joker". Only good part about Altintop is that we made a profit on his sale.
Jose Callejon (Espanyol - €5m) - Signed by Jose, for the money, again he is a good squad player. Never complains, works hard, comes up with some goals.
Raphael Varane (Lens - €10m) - Signed by Zidane. This could easily be the best piece of business the club has done in the last decade.
Fabio Coentrao (Benfica - €30m) - Signed by Jose. Can't believe how badly we got raped on the transfer fee but I actually think Coentrao is a good player. Much better defensively than Marcelo and still gives us options going forward when Jose would allow it.

Luka Modric (Tottenham - €30m) - Signed by Jose. Looked like a disappointment at the beginning but finally found his feet towards the end of the season. A shame Jose preferred Khedira to Modric for the most part.

Total signings: 18
Total cost: €392.5m

Trophies: 2011 Copa del Rey, 2011-12 Liga BBVA, 2012 Spanish Super Cup and 3 Champions League semifinals...which aren't actually trophies

Total cost: €392.5m

Trophies: 2011 Copa del Rey, 2011-12 Liga BBVA, 2012 Spanish Super Cup

blutgraetsche wrote:

Kroos wrote:ZUM GLÜCK GEHT DIESER KELCH AN UNS VORBEI

Wahre Geschichte.

Which reminds me of the "Is Germany boring?" question




Hoch die Kelche or Henkelpötte

I'd rather be 'boring' then.

It's not that we lack some very intense rivalries in the league, far from it. But for the most part, they remain civilised and are nowhere near the ugliness that Mourinho brings. He really is the antithesis of Germany's take on the game, his incredible egoism being the most obvious trait. There is nothing more un-German than egoism in a team sport like football. We were the first to fully understand that concept.

Jaime wrote:Meanwhile, reports breaking that we are negotiating for Isco!

See that they fail. You know why.

PSG want 7,5m to release Ancelotti from his contract. But Marca are claiming that PSG might be willing to wave the fee if we do a part exchange for one of the players they are interested in Di Maria, Coentrao, Pepe (all of the Jorge Mendes boys are out!)

So in principle there are no candidates that will present themselves for elections and challenge Florentino Perez. However, one of Villar Mir's sons is apparently considering putting together a campaign. The father already said he is not presenting himself as a candidate but the son's intentions are news. Also a rumour that a notable ex player could declare a campaign. Of course for the longest time everyone thought this would be Manolo Sanchis but the latest rumour is that it could actually be Raul Gonzalez Blanco. I don't know where he is going to come up with the 70m euro aval but the rumour is that it would be Raul + Hierro as the sporting director/vice president.

Candidates have two weeks to declare their intent to run. Otherwise Florentino will win by default.

Ramon Calderon joining Balague on Revista de la Liga today.............this should be a good one!

Jaime wrote:So in principle there are no candidates that will present themselves for elections and challenge Florentino Perez. However, one of Villar Mir's sons is apparently considering putting together a campaign. The father already said he is not presenting himself as a candidate but the son's intentions are news. Also a rumour that a notable ex player could declare a campaign. Of course for the longest time everyone thought this would be Manolo Sanchis but the latest rumour is that it could actually be Raul Gonzalez Blanco. I don't know where he is going to come up with the 70m euro aval but the rumour is that it would be Raul + Hierro as the sporting director/vice president.

Candidates have two weeks to declare their intent to run. Otherwise Florentino will win by default.

Noooooooooooooo! It's Special Agent Mijatovic!

Maybe Sanchis will run....he wants to copy "the Bayern model".

http://www.marca.com/2013/05/21/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1369127554.html

Jaime - could you remind story with Pedro Leon and that free kick?

It was at the end of a game, I don't even remember which one any more maybe like Sporting or something, but anyhow we were winning by one goal and legend has it that Jose had told Pedro Leon to take the free kick short and someone was going to then hold the ball near the corner flag to try and waste the last few seconds but instead Pedro Leon went for goal, the goalkeeper grabbed the ball and they went on the counter attack. They didn't score and we won the game but Jose was so furious that Pedro Leon disobeyed his instructions that he never called him into a matchday squad again.

Jaime wrote:It was at the end of a game, I don't even remember which one any more maybe like Sporting or something, but anyhow we were winning by one goal and legend has it that Jose had told Pedro Leon to take the free kick short and someone was going to then hold the ball near the corner flag to try and waste the last few seconds but instead Pedro Leon went for goal, the goalkeeper grabbed the ball and they went on the counter attack. They didn't score and we won the game but Jose was so furious that Pedro Leon disobeyed his instructions that he never called him into a matchday squad again.

Thanks

Eugenio Martinez Bravo, the head of Plataforma Blanca, has reiterated that he would like to present himself as a candidate but it will depend on whether or not he can gather the funds. He wants to bring back Hierro as technical director and wants Raul to play a part in the club again, someday as manager. He likes Michael Laudrup...

Here you can vote for your favourite Jose rant during his time at Real Madrid. I voted for "Pito". But "por que, por que, por que?" seems to be the winner!

http://www.marca.com/debate/2013/05/3533/prevotaciones3533.html

Jaime wrote:Ramon Calderon joining Balague on Revista de la Liga today.............this should be a good one!

Have you got a link where I can watch/download this?

Thx.

TM - they might post it here.

http://www.realmadridplay.es/

Otherwise for sure there will be clips of it on Sky Sports if not the whole interview.

Jaime wrote:TM - they might post it here.

http://www.realmadridplay.es/

Otherwise for sure there will be clips of it on Sky Sports if not the whole interview.

The interview was basically Calderon taking credit for signing C Ronaldo, he said that the club had a pre-agreement with Jorge Mendes and Ronaldo the summer before his eventual move - I'm pretty sure that's that illegal

Here are a few of the clips of Calderon on Revista de la Liga:

On signing Ronaldo:
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/revista-de-la-liga/8726861/calderon%27s-most-notable-signing

On Jose:
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/revista-de-la-liga/8726836/mourinho-and-real-were-a-mismatch

On Capello:
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/revista-de-la-liga/8726835/real-needed-capello%27s-strength

Answering questions from Twitter:
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/revista-de-la-liga/8726858/revista-tweets-21st-may