Should Gerrard be dropped?

robert wrote:Those step overs make J.Cole the most irritating player for me to watch. Those step overs are like the ugliest thing to hit dribbling since Peter Crouch turned pro.

The only worse stepovers I've seen was Gerrard's against Andorra I believe. And the funniest thing is that the defender was so Cr@p they actually worked

Beckham----Gerrard---Hargreaves---J Cole

and you English(I am English too I know) want to play a high tempo 442 with no real wingers ,great.

Lets play a hight tempo game with Beckham and no stikers over six foot in the box..

it just doesnt work...

Yep, drop England's 1 world class player.

That might just work. Maybe if England play like Scotland or something they would then just be happy to win a few games and just miss out on qualifying.

While people might not like Gerrard getting MOTM which was going to go to an England player and could equally have gone to Terry or Beckham. I don't understand why they blame gerrard for it, he didn't vote. Plenty of people have voted for hargreaves for MOTM even on this board for much less than what gerrard did.

The poll should have been are England fans stupid?

What happened to calling gerarrd a "headless chicken"? Proved a lot of people wrong with a disciplined performance. Could have passed better but then he might have looked for beckham or cole on the wing or lampard somewhere in space, but none of them actually play in any kind of set position and not the most mobile of players so it means improvising every time he had the ball. Smith and owen up front don't give a lot of options and neither did the full-backs one not known for his ball retention and the other looking nervous on his debute so his passing options were a bit limited right from the start.

S4P is just angry because flumps gets all the blame 110 %

let him have his rant if it makes him feel better



Should Gerrard be dropped?

Well?
Yes
25% [ 7 ]
No
74% [ 20 ]

Gerrard is clearly not as good a DM as, say, Mascherano. There were moments when he clearly failed to break up the play which led to attacking opportunities.

However, how many other AMs could, if requested, play DM against Kaka and Ronaldinho, in front of a makeshift defence, and manage to a) be reasonably effective and b) not get sent off. Kaka? Lampard? Scholes? I don't think so.

He even managed to get forward a bit.

Playing out of his usual position he did OK, not brilliantly.

Team for estonia???

....................robinson

neville.......terry........king.....bridge

beckham...gerrard...flump...cole

................crouch.....owen


pretty much nailed on I would say

should be great

Looks like a boring 0-2 both goals from Beckham set pieces

L.r.d wrote:Looks like a boring 0-2 both goals from Beckham set pieces

I hope so. If he's not scoring from set pieces he's certainly not offering any other attacking threat.

Roger Hunt wrote:

L.r.d wrote:Looks like a boring 0-2 both goals from Beckham set pieces

I hope so. If he's not scoring from set pieces he's certainly not offering any other attacking threat.

Bizarre, Look at Rauls goal the other day, the through ball Owen almost got, i would say he is England's greatest attacking threat, on form the best player, off form great from set pieces

L.r.d wrote:

Roger Hunt wrote:

L.r.d wrote:Looks like a boring 0-2 both goals from Beckham set pieces

I hope so. If he's not scoring from set pieces he's certainly not offering any other attacking threat.

Bizarre, Look at Rauls goal the other day, the through ball Owen almost got, i would say he is England's greatest attacking threat, on form the best player, off form great from set pieces

agh how fickle england fans are . from the limited, enemy number one a few months ago to hero now

he had just as many misplaced passes as gerrard the other night but nobody mentioned it because he created the goal

you know exactly what roger means however he isn't helped by england never getting him into the right positions high enough up the pitch that he has been getting into for real recently

I didn't say he wasnt an attacking threat for RM - just not for England. Just as Lampard is undeniably an attacking threat for Chelsea but not for England.

The through ball for Owen was about the only example of a real threat created from open play. In fairness, it's not Beckham's fault he's only got a couple of dwarfs to aim at, and if Crouch starts then he could have some joy against Estonia.

But a good international team can pin him back around the halfway line so all he's doing is lumping up hopeful long balls. We've got no width on the left - we need some on the right.

Play SWP.

Is this thread a joke?

Gerrrd was asked to play the defensive midfielder role on Saturday - about as unnatural position as you could imagine for him

And yet he still did ok. Lampard is just plain $h!t.

Mcclarens retarded comments after the game v brazil just confirmed to me what a pile of $h!t of a manager he is (the comment about Lampard and his doubters. wanker)

Tweedle wrote:Is this thread a joke?

SP will get back to you


Gerrard getting MOTM was 'a dagger to the heart of the team'

gerrard out

jenas in

As I've said before, I'm really not that bothered if Gerrard plays for England or not. I'm quite happy for him to be wrapped in cotton wool when not playing for Liverpool.

By all means play

----Carrick--Hargreaves--
SWP----Lampard----J Cole
--------Rooney

or

------Hargreaves--------
SWP---Lampard----J Cole
-----Crouch---Rooney----

Liverpool are in

FREEFALL

obviously

BENITEZ, aka

the GOAT

has a lot to do with it

BUT

keen observers will have noticed that GERRARD is

NOT GOOD ENOUGH

for a club of Liverpool's ambitions



I suppose

as long as he is still valued at 10 million + x Dollars

Pool should sell him to Inter

wahre G

Indeed and they should buy Der Kapitän in his place !

Supertollesgeil

With Ballack instead of Gerard, Liverpool are instant champions !

ballack and gerrard, when chelsea will not offer him a new contract

but i think he will then join mancity