South American WC Qualifiers

Are underway.

Uruguay beating Bolivia 2-0 at halftime, Suarez (Ajax) and Forlan with the goals.

Make that 3-0. Abreu scored.

BTW What time's the Argentina match?

In about 45 mins from now.

Final score was 5-0 to Uruguay. Argentina-Chile about to begin...lineups are:

Argentina - Abbo, Zanetti, Demichelis ( ), Milito, Heinze, Cambiasso, Mascherano, Riquelme, Maxi, Messi, Tevez

Chile - Bravo, Alvarez, Ponce, Riffo, Estrada, Matias Fernandez, Fierro, Mark Gonzalez, Iturra, Rubio, Salas

How did Suarez do ??!

Wasn't watching, but the 1st goal was his only goal.

Wow !

5-0 without their best striker - Uruguay mean business !

It may only be Bolivia but its a good start !

So are Brasil playing?

Colombia-Brazil is tomorrow.

0-0 so far in the Argentina match. I really don't understand their system, its' very unbalanced. Riquelme as usual controlling things, but that leaves Maxi completely isolated on the right. Messi hasn't got in the game much either, so basically we're seeing Riquelme continually pass it to Tevez, but the ball gets stripped off him by the defenders.

kas wrote:Final score was 5-0 to Uruguay. Argentina-Chile about to begin...lineups are:

Argentina - Abbo, Zanetti, Demichelis ( ), Milito, Heinze, Cambiasso, Mascherano, Riquelme, Maxi, Messi, Tevez

Chile - Bravo, Alvarez, Ponce, Riffo, Estrada, Matias Fernandez, Fierro, Mark Gonzalez, Iturra, Rubio, Salas

Demichelis is awesome this season. Absolutely solid in the back.

kas wrote:Colombia-Brazil is tomorrow.

0-0 so far in the Argentina match. I really don't understand their system, its' very unbalanced. Riquelme as usual controlling things, but that leaves Maxi completely isolated on the right. Messi hasn't got in the game much either, so basically we're seeing Riquelme continually pass it to Tevez, but the ball gets stripped off him by the defenders.

i think they should drop messi or use him in riquelmes role because i dont think they get anything out of him and it ends being him dribbling into a wall even though i think he is their best player right now. i thought pekerman was crazy when he used saviola instead of messi in the world cup but i get it now. another solution could be using the tactic from the olympics which was a 3-4-3 which allow messi to play the same role as he does for barca. it worked great in the olympics and i think they would the most out of messi in such a system.

1-0 to Argentina,

Riquelme, freekick.

Effenberg wrote:

kas wrote:Final score was 5-0 to Uruguay. Argentina-Chile about to begin...lineups are:

Argentina - Abbo, Zanetti, Demichelis ( ), Milito, Heinze, Cambiasso, Mascherano, Riquelme, Maxi, Messi, Tevez

Chile - Bravo, Alvarez, Ponce, Riffo, Estrada, Matias Fernandez, Fierro, Mark Gonzalez, Iturra, Rubio, Salas

Demichelis is awesome this season. Absolutely solid in the back.

Has he always played CB? I thought he is a DM, hence the confusion.

btw, Riquelme gave Argentina the lead with a beautiful free kick.

Argentinian fans chanting "Ole" already. Great play by Messi a few moments earlier, he could have fallen at least 2 or 3 times but stayed up and protected the ball under pressure from 2/3 defenders.

2-0 to Argentina,

Riquelme scores another freekick.

ANOTHER free kick goal from Riquelme. Class.

The goal came about through some brilliant play from Messi - the ball was cleared out of defence and went v. v. high up in the air close to the touchline. Messi brought it down, somehow controlled it and kept it in play, then turned past 2 Chilean defenders, ran for about 40-50 yards, and laid it off to Riquelme, who got fouled. Then he scored from the resulting free kick.

2-0 at halftime, but as expected, it's individual quality making a difference from Argentina. A very inefficient system, we aren't seeing many team moves.

Re: Demichelis

Yeah, I can see how that might confuse you.

He is always been a CB, but in the past (much to my chagrin) coaches mostly used him as DM. He's much happier with his role now. And so am I.

Word.

I invite all of you to watch Perú-Paraguay later on tonight. It should be a cracking match. Conmebol saved the best match of the day for last.

Demichelis has been a CB since his time with River.

Well our team sucks but we've got a lead of two goals through two(truly great) free kicks from Riquelme. I don't give a $h!t I still don't like this system and I still don't want Riquelme on the national squad, he's being assigned a role that no one else can assume(at least with the players Basile has called up)

Puro wrote:I invite all of you to watch Perú-Paraguay later on tonight. It should be a cracking match. Conmebol saved the best match of the day for last.

It's the one we have all been waiting for.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:Wow !

5-0 without their best striker - Uruguay mean business !

It may only be Bolivia but its a good start !

forlan was playing i believe

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Demichelis has been a CB since his time with River.

Well our team sucks but we've got a lead of two goals through two(truly great) free kicks from Riquelme. I don't give a $h!t I still don't like this system and I still don't want Riquelme on the national squad, he's being assigned a role that no one else can assume(at least with the players Basile has called up)

I'm sure Basile will work things out for Argentina. Three points in the bag today was the most important thing. Argentina will only improve as time goes on. I'm cautiously optimistic about beating Paraguay by two goals clear.

Puro wrote:

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Demichelis has been a CB since his time with River.

Well our team sucks but we've got a lead of two goals through two(truly great) free kicks from Riquelme. I don't give a $h!t I still don't like this system and I still don't want Riquelme on the national squad, he's being assigned a role that no one else can assume(at least with the players Basile has called up)

I'm sure Basile will work things out for Argentina. Three points in the bag today was the most important thing. Argentina will only improve as time goes on. I'm cautiously optimistic about beating Paraguay by two goals clear.

not sure about that. the system has obvious flaws and it ends up being dependent on indviduels and thats fine when you average teams but against big teams it will take a team effort.

Chile had a man sent off, and now their keeper gets a yellow for a foul on Messi, who has become more and more influential as the game has gone on. He basically has a free role, and the last few attacks have all gone to him.

Gago comes on for Maxi Rodriguez. Argentina in cruise control.

Aguero comes on for Tevez. Let's see what the Aguero-Messi partnership can do.

Cr@p game...hope Puro is right and the best comes last


Messi out, Saviola in...the "atomic flea" has failed again to show what the fuss is all about before his countrymen in Buenos Aires...

It's so nice to watch Mascherano play for Argentina...favourite player along with Tevez from this team(special mention to "el pupi")

Saviola on for Messi, who gets a standing ovation (Tevez did too).

After the red card Chile gave up. Argentina must be having something like 90% possession in the last 10 mins.

anyone got the Suarez goal ?

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Cr@p game...hope Puro is right and the best comes last


Messi out, Saviola in...the "atomic flea" has failed again to show what the fuss is all about before his countrymen in Buenos Aires...

It's so nice to watch Mascherano play for Argentina...favourite player along with Tevez from this team(special mention to "el pupi")

Yeah Mascherano and Zanetti have been excellent.

I thought Messi did well though? Late in the game Riquelme has disappeared (probably out of fatigue) and Messi took over the play in the centre.

Raifael wrote:anyone got the Suarez goal ?

Here:
http://www.rojadirecta.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=27574&sid=e992d0bb38bde563e0a4e2cea3e9e8bc

Good goal.