can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Tweesus Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:44 pm

Glenn Johnnsonn wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Defoe I'd take over Anelka and Owen too. Owen just doesn't have the pace nowadays. Anelka is very hot and cold. His record last season was impressive but I'd be very surprised if he'd score anything like that this season.

If I were to grade the Spurs first team...

Gomez - 6
Assou-Ekotto - 6
King - 8
Woody - 6
Hutton (?) - 5
Modric - 8
Huddlestone - 6
Palacios - 7/8
Lennon - 7
Defoe - 7
Keane - 6

Woodcock is a 7 at least and a high one at that. Lennon too. I'd swap pretty much all of Sppppppppppuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs' fringe players for ours, except for the left side. Don't think much of the Arsenal bench either.

I did think about giving Woody higher but then I couldn't be arsed so I didn't.

The important issue is that Spurs DO have some very good players though (I count 7 as the cusp for good players)

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Hlebagone Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:53 pm

Tweedle wrote:Defoe I'd take over Anelka and Owen too. Owen just doesn't have the pace nowadays. Anelka is very hot and cold. His record last season was impressive but I'd be very surprised if he'd score anything like that this season.

If I were to grade the Spurs first team...

Gomez - 6
Assou-Ekotto - 6
King - 8
Woody - 6
Hutton (?) - 5
Modric - 8
Huddlestone - 6
Palacios - 7/8
Lennon - 7
Defoe - 7
Keane - 6

Let's all grade the first teams to definitevly find out where they will finish.
cheers

Tottenham:

Gomez - 6
Assou-Ekotto - 6
King - 8
Woody - 7
Corluka - 7
Modric - 8
Huddlestone - 6
Palacios - 7.5
Lennon - 7.5
Defoe - 7
Keane - 6

Total: 76

Arsenal:

Almunia - 6.5
Clichy - 7
Vermaelon - 7
Gallas - 8
Sagna - 7
Song - 7.5
Cesc - 9
Nasri - 7.5*
Eduardo - 7
Van Persie - 8.5
Arshavin - 8.5

Denilson would get 6.
Total: 83.5

Liverpool:

Reina - 8.5
Johnson - 7.5
Skrtel - 7.5
Carragher - 6
Insua - 6.5
Mashcherano - 8
Lucas - 6
Gerrard - 9
Kuyt - 6.5
Benayoun - 7
Torres - 9

80

Chelsea

Cech - 8
Boswinga - 8
JT - 8.5
Carvalho - 8.5
Cole - 8
Mikel - 6.5
Essien - 9
Ballack - 8
Lampard - 8
Drogba - 9
Anelka - 7.5

88.5

Man City:

Given - 6
Toure - 7
Lescott - 7
Richards - 6
Bridge - 6.5
Barry - 8
Robinho - 8
SWP - 7.5
Ireland - 7
Tevez - 8
Adebaoyor - 8

78.5

Man Utd's starting line up confuses me - whats their best choice midfield?

But thta was definitely completely worth my time. To conclude, the big 4 have a better starting XI than those not in the big 4. Shock horror.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Fey Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:57 pm

Vermeulen a 7 Laughing

And that already after 2 whole games!

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by L r dd Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:58 pm

Alumunia > Gomes im not so sure Laughing

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by Hlebagone Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:59 pm

Three actually. Razz

Gomes is the better shot stopper, but i havent been wholly convinced by his reliability so marked him down slightly. His potential is far higher than Almunia's. If he can continue playing as he has been recently then hes definitely the better keeper.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:59 pm

Hlebagone wrote:

MadVillain wrote:Van Persie's better than anything we have

Drogba & Anelka are better than anything we have

Gerrard & Torres are better than what we have

Owen, Rooney & Berbatov are better than what we have

Robinho, Adebayor & Tevez are better than what we have

At the moment we don't have any 9/10 players, just a healthy bunch of 7-8's. King is the only one who comes close. Somebody will have to make the leap for us like Keane & Carrick did for us in 2005-06 to seriously challenge.

TS is systematically downplaying his chances so he cannot be accused of hyping up his players, thiss may be a realistic approach but it would also deprive him of his favourite hobby of hyping up Arsenal hype.

Anyway - Woodgate is at least the equal to Vermaelon and thats not even mentioning King.
Palacios would get into Arsenal or Man Utds Midfield.
Modric would slot into our midfield no problem, would be an improvement on Benayoun or Valencia.

There are definite weak points to all of the top 4 this year.
But yeah, it is unlikely.

There's no need to hype up Arsenal hype - not when Wilshere's going to the World Cup off the back of a pre-season performance against Rangers.

King's only an 8 because of his injury record.

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by Fey Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:00 pm

L r dd wrote:Alumunia > Gomes im not so sure

Was about to mention that!

Grading system is all very well Kevin, but not like this Biggrin

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by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:00 pm

Fey wrote:Vermeulen a 7

And that already after 2 whole games!

He was an 8 whilst he was at Ajax though Shocked

Ajax HYPE + Arsenal HYPE Ale

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Tweesus Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:03 pm

Hlebagone wrote:[SWP - 7.5
Ireland - 7

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Hlebagone Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:03 pm

Fey wrote:

L r dd wrote:Alumunia > Gomes im not so sure

Was about to mention that!

Grading system is all very well Kevin, but not like this

I rated 55 players off the top of my head. I'm not surprised there's some discrepancies. By all means, make your own and i'll wait for people to shoot you down when yolu give Kuyt a 10.
6 for Gomes does seem harsh in hindsight though - i gave the same to Given. I think i got more lenient as i went on.

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by Hlebagone Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:04 pm

Assou-Ekotto - 6
Woody - 6

Right back at ya Tweeds.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Kimbo Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:05 pm

Hlebagone wrote:

Fey wrote:

L r dd wrote:Alumunia > Gomes im not so sure

Was about to mention that!

Grading system is all very well Kevin, but not like this

I rated 55 players off the top of my head. I'm not surprised there's some discrepancies. By all means, make your own and i'll wait for people to shoot you down when yolu give Kuyt a 10.
6 for Gomes does seem harsh in hindsight though - i gave the same to Given. I think i got more lenient as i went on.

So in hindsight it was generous? scratch

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by Hlebagone Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:08 pm

MadVillain wrote:

Fey wrote:Vermeulen a 7

And that already after 2 whole games!

He was an 8 whilst he was at Ajax though

Ajax HYPE + Arsenal HYPE

I have a soft spot for Belgians too. Smile

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by Tweesus Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:08 pm

Hlebagone wrote:Assou-Ekotto - 6
Woody - 6

Right back at ya Tweeds.

Woody was a bit shite at Boro though and I still hold that against him.

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by Axeslammer Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:16 pm

Hlebagone wrote:
Kuyt - 6.5

Auto-disqualification : you are the weakest link.....goodbye Ale

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by fcb Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:23 pm

Manchester United:
VDS - 7
? - 5 (6 if it's Brown)
Rio - 9
Vidic - 9
Evra - 10
Valencia - 7
Scholes/Carrick - 5
Fletcher - 6
Nani - 7 (5 if it's Park or Giggs)
Rooney - 9
Berbatov - 7
Total = 81

Liverpool:
Reina - 9
Johnson - 7
Carragher - 6
Skrtel/Agger - 7
Insua - 6
Mascherano - 8
Lucas - 4 (Aquilani's probably better but I can't really rate him just yet)
Kuyt - 7
Riera/Benayoun - 6
Gerrard - 10
Torres - 9
Total = 79

Chelsea:
Cech - 7
Bosingwa - 8
Terry - 8
Carvalho/Alex - 8
ACole - 8
Essien - 9
Lampard - 8
Ballack - 7
Deco - 6
Drogba - 9
Anelka - 7
Total = 85

Arsenal:
Almunia - 6
Sagna - 7
Gallas - 7
Vermaelen - 6
Clichy - 6
Denilson/Song - 6
Fabregas - 8
Nasri - 7
Arshavin - 9
Van Persie - 8
Eduardo/Bendtner - 6
Total = 75

Spurs:
Gomes - 6
Corluka - 7
King - 9
Woodgate - 8
Assou-Ekotto - 6
Palacios - 7
Huddlestone - 6
Lennon - 7
Modric - 8
Keane - 6
Defoe - 8
Total = 78

Manchester City:
Given - 7
Richards - 7
Lescott - 7
Toure - 6
Bridge - 6
Barry - 8
Ireland - 9
SWP - 7
Robinho - 8
Adebayor - 8
Tevez - 7
Total = 80

So based on this highly accurate rating scheme, the league table this season will be:

1. Chelsea
2. Man. Utd.
3. Man. City
4. Liverpool
5. Spurs
6. Arsenal

Ale

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by Parks lives Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:29 pm

Can't agree with all the rating but if you swap Arsenal and Liverpool's placings around I think that could be an accurate prediction.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Tweesus Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:35 pm

I think you've rated our squad too harshly Kas.

I'd give Cesc a 9, and Song and Vermeulen a 7.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Kimbo Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:36 pm

kas wrote:
Reina - 9

Fuckin hell! Yikes

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by fcb Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:38 pm

Tweedle wrote:I think you've rated our squad too harshly Kas.

I'd give Cesc a 9, and Song and Vermeulen a 7.

Sure.

You're now tied 5th Ale

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:40 pm

I'll have a go:

Man Utd

VDS - 8

O'Shea - 6.5
Vidic - 8
Rio - 9
Evra - 8.5

Valencia - 7
Fletcher/Carrick - 7
Scholes - 7.5
Nani - 7

Rooney - 8.5
Berbatov - 8

*Park JS should be in this, he's a 7.5, Anderson 7, Giggs 7.5.

Liverpool

Reina - 8.5

Johnson - 8
Carragher -7
Skrtel - 7.5
Aurelio - 7.5

Mascherano - 8
Lucas - 6

Kuyt - 8
Gerrard - 9
Riera/Benny - 7.5

Torres - 9

*Agger 8, Babel 6

Chelsea

Cech - 8

Bosingwa - 7.5
JT - 7.5
Ricky - 8.5
Cashley - 8

Mikel - 6.5
Essien - 9
Ballack 8
Lampard - 8.5

Drogba - 9
Anelka - 7.5

*Alex 8.5, Zhirkov - 7, Joe Cole, 7.5

Arsenal

Almunia - 7

Sagna - 6.5
Vermy - 7
Gallas - 8
Clichy - 7.5

Song - 7
Denilson - 6.5
Cesc - 8

Bendtner - 7
RVP - 8.5
Arsharvin - 8.5

*Djourou 6.5, Diaby 6, Eduardo 7.5, Nasri 7.5, Walcott 2.5.

Man Citeh

Super Shay - 10 Erm

better subtract 4 from that

Richards - 6
Dunne - 5 (Lescott 7)
Toure - 7
Bridge - 6.5

Barry - 7.5
De Jong - 6.5
Ireland - 8

Tevez - 8
Robinho - 8.5
Adebayor - 8.5

*SWP 7, Bellamy 7, Garrido 6, RSC 7, Zabaleta 6.5, Petrov 7.

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by L r dd Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:42 pm

insane

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by Fey Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:43 pm

Good list TS, though Almunia cant be more then a 6.5

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by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:45 pm

L r dd wrote:insane

What is Lardy?

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by Tweesus Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:46 pm

Walcott 2.5 lol!

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by Fade out Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:47 pm

In Kas' list,

Agger, Kuyt, Gallas, Sagna, Anelka, Ballack, Berbatov, Tevez, and Nasri are all 7. Same as Lennon, Richards, Lescott, and Corluka.

Tard.

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Re: can anyone stop Tottenham winning the EPL?

by L r dd Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:48 pm

MadVillain wrote:

L r dd wrote:insane

What is Lardy?

Pool and Chelsea ratings. Agger is just hilarious