Is The EPL overrated??

tonigol wrote:
rso calcopoli is bad, but the mass murders you poms did is nothing i guess??? ohh and the poms just liek to sweap it under the rug, just liek they did with the bungs, etc

What mass murders?

If you're talking about the War then I think you'll find that it was your lot killing the jews

tonigol wrote:im quite sure there have been many rigged ones, including 2 or the 3 WC wins for germany

Whatever you have been smoking, can I have some of that also, please?

tonigol wrote:

rooney is 100% over rated ... has never done anything

Last season he scored more in all comps that Ronaldo, not to mention what he's done for Ud in seasons before that

tonigol wrote:

robert wrote:Typical argument, everyone stretching the truth way too far.

Rossi scored on his pl debut for Man utd and was never given much of a chance to prove he could or couldn't hack it. He was not kicked out by SAf and chose to go despite SAF not wanting to let him go, hence the buy back clause/

By the same token to say he will be bigger than Rooney might be true or not true and at this stage not true, he hasn't even played CL football let alone represent his country.

rooney is 100% over rated ... has never done anything

Ronaldo was ripping it up all last season for man U, and if you had taken him out of the team, man u wouldn’t have come close to winning the title .. yet before every EPL and Cl game, i had to hear the pom commentators blow there load over rooney, and how he would be the key man, yet who would score or set up a goal and save the day .. RONALDO!!! Rooney = 100% overrated

Why don't you check how many goals and assists Rooney scored last season before opening your mouth and falling flat on your face once again.

Tweedle wrote:

tonigol wrote:

rooney is 100% over rated ... has never done anything

Last season he scored more in all comps that Ronaldo, not to mention what he's done for Ud in seasons before that

the season before that he won them how many titles ... umm a big fat ZERO

Ronaldo won the league for Man U

Im quite sure most ppl were talking about player of the yr between kaka and Ronaldo, not kaka ronaldo and rooney .. wow you poms are deluded

blutgraetsche wrote:

tonigol wrote:im quite sure there have been many rigged ones, including 2 or the 3 WC wins for germany

Whatever you have been smoking, can I have some of that also, please?

do you want me to get the clips for you????????

No, I just wantt the stuff you have been smoking, that will be sufficient. Thanks.

Do you know what a 'pom' is....

Do you know anything..... every so called 'fact' you've posted has been countered with an actual fact.

Rooney has done nothing, apart from score twice against the Champions of Europe? what was it 4 goals in international knock out competitions, 20odd goals in the EPL last season, won the EPL and league cup with Man Utd and is only 21...

I'd probably wait untill hes nearer the end of his career before saying hes done nothing... hes already achieved and 'done' more than the vast majority of footballers at his tender age.

dear me, what a cunt this Tonigol guy appears to be.

borocooper wrote:dear me, what a cunt this Tonigol guy appears to be.

Football Genius wrote:Do you know what a 'pom' is....
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A British person - or close equivalent to the species. Specialise in inventing sports and timing themselves on how long it takes before all of their former colonies can defeat them at it. Spelt P-O-M: the "Prisoner of Her Majesty" explanation is an urban legend, as is "Prisoner of Mother England", the other version of this common myth.

Football Genius wrote:Do you know what a 'pom' is....

Do you know anything..... every so called 'fact' you've posted has been countered with an actual fact.

Rooney has done nothing, apart from score twice against the Champions of Europe? what was it 4 goals in international knock out competitions, 20odd goals in the EPL last season, won the EPL and league cup with Man Utd and is only 21...

I'd probably wait untill hes nearer the end of his career before saying hes done nothing... hes already achieved and 'done' more than the vast majority of footballers at his tender age.

A pom is what Australians call the English

wow 4 goals in the Cl ... before them 4 goals last season, how long was it when he last scored ... 2 yrs ???

How many goals has he scored for his national team since euro .. something like 3 ... wow 3 goals in 3 yrs

Yes, and is used to refer to the Australians, not the English

Football Genius wrote:Yes, and is used to refer to the Australians, not the English

wow you are stupid

tonigol wrote:

Football Genius wrote:Yes, and is used to refer to the Australians, not the English

wow you are stupid

Shouldnt you be on you're own forum?

Yes, i live in England and don't know how we use the term 'pom' Prisoner of Her Majesty.

Allow me to elaborate, we sent our 'prisoners of her majesty' to Australia, thus POM.

Is that clear enough for you...

Probably not a good idea to try and tackle something you obviously have ZERO idea about, a bit like your comical football knowledge, you appear to be an rounded idiot, not just your lack of footballing knowledge.

Football Genius wrote:Yes, i live in England and don't know how we use the term 'pom' Prisoner of Her Majesty.

Allow me to elaborate, we sent our 'prisoners of her majesty' to Australia, thus POM.

Is that clear enough for you...

Probably not a good idea to try and tackle something you obviously have ZERO idea about, a bit like your comical football knowledge, you appear to be an rounded idiot, not just your lack of footballing knowledge.

sure ... so how about you come here, and tell that to 20 million Australians

ohh does it also hurt that Australia, convicts from you nation, are better than you at just about everything?????

tonigol wrote:

Football Genius wrote:Yes, i live in England and don't know how we use the term 'pom' Prisoner of Her Majesty.

Allow me to elaborate, we sent our 'prisoners of her majesty' to Australia, thus POM.

Is that clear enough for you...

Probably not a good idea to try and tackle something you obviously have ZERO idea about, a bit like your comical football knowledge, you appear to be an rounded idiot, not just your lack of footballing knowledge.

sure ... so how about you come here, and tell that to 20 million Australians

ohh does it also hurt that Australia, convicts from you nation, are better than you at just about everything?????

and here is rossis debut goal for parma

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xu5cWh347U

Super goal

(cant find the one for villareal, if any one has it, post it pls)

is the EPL overrated

SURE

that's not the problem though

you can increasingly read and hear that Englanders are getting disenchanted with the whole game (league as well as national team)

I bumped into an old university chum the other day

had not seen him for two years

Spurs and fanatical England fan

top bloke

he did not even know that England were about to play Germany soon

he had effectively given up following the game, he was so fed up with the Lions in Germany; the other reason was that everything these days was about money; he could not sit together with his mates at Spurs..., price increases...

if you can disgruntle somebody like good old Richard, you really HAVE a problem

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as for Seria A:

once upon a time I really loved it

with all the corruption scandals going on, I'll give Italian football a well-deserved break (unless we Teutons play them)

this serie A season will be one of the best for years ... any way about the money its true .. most people cant afford to take there whole family to games any more ... its becoming a rich mans game. I mean they increased prices so the scum would stop coming, but it just keeps going up

season tickets for arsenal was something like 1300-1900 pounds!

I think the price for the season ticket at The Emirates is £1295

But if you consider where they are based (London) the fact they are attempting to reclaim the cash they have invested into the stadium and will proclaim they play lavish football, then this in some way explains the cost.

Comparatively speaking i believe Man Utd season tickets are approximately half the price of Arsenals.

EPL is better than Serie A right now - simply because they have the most money.

Likewise Serie A was the best league when they had the most money. La Liga was the undisputed no.1 when it had the most money.

EPL top 4 >>> La Liga top for, but La Liga top 10 >>> EPL top 10.

Serie A will come back, traditional giants like Napoli & Genoa, not even mentioning Juve are now back in the leeague and that makes it more spicy. Likewise EPL would be even better if Leeds & Nottingham Forest, for instance were in it instead of teams like Wigan & Reading.

As for there being few *gifted* footballers outside the EPL top 4 - are you kidding me?

Berbatov
Keane
Arteta
McFadden
Viduka
Rozehaal
Solano
Dyer
Elano
Tuncay
Bentley
Tugay
Ashton
Valencia
Diouf
Anelka

So what if not many on my list aren't English - there's still a good depth in talent

Football Genius wrote:I think the price for the season ticket at The Emirates is £1295

But if you consider where they are based (London) the fact they are attempting to reclaim the cash they have invested into the stadium and will proclaim they play lavish football, then this in some way explains the cost.

Comparatively speaking i believe Man Utd season tickets are approximately half the price of Arsenals.

sure you want to make your money back .. but i think they need to slow down a bit .. any way arsenal is not really affected .. they get full games just about every week .. Same with man U and chelski … but most other teams have seen a decline in season membership

TeamJenas wrote:not even mentioning Juve are now back in the league and that makes it more corrupt.

1300 quid to watch a side no better than fourth in the league. I suppose when you pay 295 quid a week in rent and only go to the stadium to show off your new iphone or blackberry then it seems like a bargain...

TeamJenas™ wrote:. La Liga was the undisputed no.1 when it had the most money.

When was this? La Liga has built itself up since the signings of the super signings of Real (Zidane, Figo, Beckham) and Barcelona (Ronaldinho, Henry), prior to that I don't think anyone was particularly interested.

Now that they're proclaiming themselves as 'La Liga de las estrellas' I see it, unfortunately, going the way of the EPL with it's over-commercialization

Samba de Baiano wrote:

TeamJenas wrote:. La Liga was the undisputed no.1 when it had the most money.

When was this? La Liga has built itself up since the signings of the super signings of Real (Zidane, Figo, Beckham) and Barcelona (Ronaldinho, Henry), prior to that I don't think anyone was particularly interested.

Now that they're proclaiming themselves as 'La Liga de las estrellas' I see it, unfortunately, going the way of the EPL with it's over-commercialization

I don't get this line, more money in the game will ultimately mean more money filtering its way down the chain, lower leagues, youth academies, new stadia. We have witnessed this over the course of the last few years in the UK.

In terms of the in your face advertising, you don't have to accept it as a given, as SKY Sports may wish you to, that's why we each have our own minds, to make them up for ourselves. If you can see past the glossy cover, you'll notice the money is a huge benefit for the game as a whole

Samba de Baiano wrote:

TeamJenas™ wrote:. La Liga was the undisputed no.1 when it had the most money.

When was this? La Liga has built itself up since the signings of the super signings of Real (Zidane, Figo, Beckham) and Barcelona (Ronaldinho, Henry), prior to that I don't think anyone was particularly interested.

Now that they're proclaiming themselves as 'La Liga de las estrellas' I see it, unfortunately, going the way of the EPL with it's over-commercialization

You were unquestionably the best/highest spending league when Gaspart Spent crazy money at Barca (so much so that Saviola was left as the highest earner at your club under the more efficient Laporta), Real were buying Galacticos Left Right & Center, Deportivo almost doing a Basque version of Leed by nearly spending themselveds into oblivion (awesome team though) all the problems with Jesus Gil & Athletico etc, etc.

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@ Coops.

After the whole West Ham/Tevez thing, we really can't point any fingers...
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@ FG

You say this, but to me even though the lower tams are getting a bit more cash, it's made irrelevant by the undeniable fact that the gap between the richer/bigger clubs and the rest is growing, almost daily.

In theory it should mean that. But look at Southampton. They've sold Beattie, Crouch, Walcott, Bale in recent years, and now have had to sell their best players to stave off administraction. Why is that? The same applies to other Championship signs who have received huge EPL fees but aren't spending it.

The EPL in a few years will become a league of haves and have nots. With recently promoted sides having no chance of staying up.