Nani and Anderson are overated?

Both these guys are talented they may or may not make it , we are hopeful about it you probably didnt bother to find out but Nani was top of assists charts for us last season despite sparing appearances.

@ DS

Are Nani and Anderson world beaters capable of running a game on their own at this moment, in your opinion?

Glenn Hysén wrote:

DS wrote:Did they rated Vidic , Evra by the way , Park or Carrick werent public choices either.

you realise you're just listing players now?

Yup our recent transfers that is and you may or may not agree they were/are successful.

Why are we comparing Anderson and Nani to Kleberson and Djemba Djemba?

citing the fact that people didn't rate Carrick or Anderson is hardly a convincing argument as to why Anderson will become world class.

If Nani or Anderson are capable of running a game on their own it certainly isn't at the highest level.

borocooper wrote:Why are we comparing Anderson and Nani to Kleberson and Djemba Djemba?

Because Liverpool fans believe it's their year.

OOhh I see


Babel


A piece of poo.

Seems about as fair.

borocooper wrote:OOhh I see


Babel


A piece of poo.

Seems about as fair.

No, its not..poo can come in different forms..it can be surprising even. Babel on the other hand...so predictable!

Glenn Hysén wrote:citing the fact that people didn't rate Carrick or Anderson is hardly a convincing argument as to why Anderson will become world class.

If Nani or Anderson are capable of running a game on their own it certainly isn't at the highest level.

I dont know if you remember Arsenal game last year where they tried to kick him out of game , surely that means he was a major threat.

Anderson had several very good games last year this year against Celtic he ran the game and one two other occasions (dont really remember but he was paired with Fletcher if I am not mistaken).

Well people didnt rate Carrick still he was vital for us winning the league twice and CL once if Anderson can become as vital I dont think anyone will complain not everybody is world class or can become one even Steven Gerrard probably isnt world class even though he is one hell of a player.

Ade Alves wrote:@ DS

Are Nani and Anderson world beaters capable of running a game on their own at this moment, in your opinion?

At this moment probably not but it isnt that they cant do it , they have done it a few times so hopefully will add consistency and as they are 20,21 etc they have time even RVP who is 25ish lacks consistency to his at times brilliant performance he still has time.
They have potential to do it dont they ? Hopefully they will fulfill their potential , maybe they wont.

DS wrote:

Glenn Hysén wrote:citing the fact that people didn't rate Carrick or Anderson is hardly a convincing argument as to why Anderson will become world class.

If Nani or Anderson are capable of running a game on their own it certainly isn't at the highest level.

I dont know if you remember Arsenal game last year where they tried to kick him out of game , surely that means he was a major threat.

He did pawn Justin Hoyte.

It wasnt Hoyte who tried an assault.

DS wrote:It wasnt Hoyte who tried an assault.

Sorry, i'm just not in the habit of gauging a player's ability by the amount of "assaults" they receive on a football pitch.

My point was that whilst Nani gave a good performance, it was only Justin Hoyte who he was turning inside out.

That was just a reference to a very good game he had even it was Justin
Hoyte it wasnt his fault Arsene decided Hoyte was good enough to face
him.

2ndly he had alot more decent performances last season a few eye
catching ones showing his potential but consistency he does lack and as
I said before he can become a very good player or he may not but has
the potential to be the former , havent seen any evidence why he should
be lampooned yet

DS wrote:That was just a reference to a very good game he had even it was Justin
Hoyte it wasnt his fault Arsene decided Hoyte was good enough to face
him.

2ndly he had alot more decent performances last season a few eye
catching ones showing his potential but consistency he does lack and as
I said before he can become a very good player or he may not but has
the potential to be the former , havent seen any evidence why he should
be lampooned yet

Of course it wasnt his fault, but equally obviously, the standard of oppostion must be taken into account of.

I wasnt lampooning him, just saying that the performance against Arsenal was against Justin Hoyte, which undoubtedly helped him.

I wasnt talking about you I was just indicating the obvious hes shown potential and can become a very good player he has shown in flashes some brilliance , same with Anderson they may or may not make it too early at the moment.

Both Anderson and Nani will turn out to be great players, you can trust me on this.

When people were saying:

Reyes > Ronaldo,
Robben > Ronaldo,
Robinho > Ronaldo,
Joaquín > Ronaldo,
Mark González > Ronaldo,
RVP > Ronaldo,
Ronaldo is a one trick pony, etc...

I said Ronaldo would be a great player and i wasn't wrong.

The HuddFather™ wrote:

borocooper wrote:Why are we comparing Anderson and Nani to Kleberson and Djemba Djemba?

Because Liverpool fans believe it's their year.

Liverpool fans didn't start this thread. I'd say the exact same thing if you started saying Lennon and Huddletone were world class, or going to be. The difference is, if you said it you'd be joking. A lot of the Unoited fans are serious.

People said Rafa couldn't spot an attacking player, then he signed Riera and Torres. Now ever attacking player Rafa signs is going to be awesome?

No! And just because people apparently didn't rate Ronaldo it means Anderson and Nani are going to become world class? Please! Do you people realise how stupid that sounds?

And for the record people always rated Ronaldo, it's just that he dived too much and you couldn't tell if he was crossing or shooting half the time.

Oh for gods sake what a worthless thread, these kids are what 19odd? give them 5 / 6 years.... they clearly have talent in abundance, they are no Djemba Djemba for christs sake.

Are they good enough now? yes... are they consistant enough? probably not... hence why Scholes and Giggs still feature.

If they continue wanting to learn, and progress... i'm sure they'll both become fantastic players.

:closetunitedfan:

Glenn Hysén wrote:

The HuddFather™ wrote:

borocooper wrote:Why are we comparing Anderson and Nani to Kleberson and Djemba Djemba?

Because Liverpool fans believe it's their year.

Liverpool fans didn't start this thread. I'd say the exact same thing if you started saying Lennon and Huddletone were world class, or going to be. The difference is, if you said it you'd be joking. A lot of the Unoited fans are serious.

People said Rafa couldn't spot an attacking player, then he signed Riera and Torres. Now ever attacking player Rafa signs is going to be awesome?

No! And just because people apparently didn't rate Ronaldo it means Anderson and Nani are going to become world class? Please! Do you people realise how stupid that sounds?

And for the record people always rated Ronaldo, it's just that he dived too much and you couldn't tell if he was crossing or shooting half the time.

I am not a professional football manager but even i knew Torres was a good attacking player, nothing hard to spot there.

Batman wrote:

I am not a professional football manager but even i knew Torres was a good attacking player, nothing hard to spot there.

meanwhile no one had heard of Ronaldo?

what were you saying about Riera when we signed him? If I recall correctly you laughed at him and suggested we should have gone for Giovanni dos Santos.

Your opinion is always welcome, if not respected

I dont think anyone would say that due to Rafa signing Riera people will say every attacking Rafa signs will be class.

"Nearly as good as the ones Fergie signs" maybe.

Rafa's chest of gold.... has never had the same depth at any one period of time, that SAF has during the correlating tenures.

Rafa does have a question mark held against his attacking signings... however when hes spent the cash, hes done OK

Torres 20odd mill, Babel.. 10odd mill, Riera 8mill,

We have the jury out on Keane, whilst Kuyt has looked to turn around the doubters this season.

borocooper wrote:I dont think anyone would say that due to Rafa signing Riera people will say every attacking Rafa signs will be class.

"Nearly as good as the ones Fergie signs" maybe.

Yes but fergie likes to blow his load on every new attacking signing. I think he holds something like 7 of the top ten transfer fees spent in the EPL

COTR wrote:

borocooper wrote:I dont think anyone would say that due to Rafa signing Riera people will say every attacking Rafa signs will be class.

"Nearly as good as the ones Fergie signs" maybe.

Yes but fergie likes to blow his load on every new attacking signing. I think he holds something like 7 of the top ten transfer fees spent in the EPL

Fair enough as long as he keeps winning the league and whatever else they can manage though isnt it?

Glenn Hysén wrote:

Batman wrote:

I am not a professional football manager but even i knew Torres was a good attacking player, nothing hard to spot there.

meanwhile no one had heard of Ronaldo?

what were you saying about Riera when we signed him? If I recall correctly you laughed at him and suggested we should have gone for Giovanni dos Santos.

Your opinion is always welcome, if not respected

Some people had heard of Ronaldo but back then the star player for Sporting was Quaresma.

Can you find any quotes of me laughing at the signing of Riera? I didn't think he was $h!t at Man City and i knew he had improved as a player since then. I suggested the signing of Giovanni dos Santos because he was cheap. You could have always signed both, play Riera on the left and Giovanni dos Santos on the right (super sub).

Riera was obivously going to be an improvement on these players playing LW:

Kewell - always injured
Leto - who?
Lucas - CM player
Babel - he is a striker, he wants to be played as a striker
Pennant - RM player
Benayoun - AM player
Kuyt - forward

Batman wrote:

Can you find any quotes of me laughing at the signing of Riera?

can you find any quotes of Liverpool fans saying we're going to win the league this year?

I think Liverpool will win the Premiership title this year

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Mutiny.