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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:15 pm

    Kimbo, he quite clearly is worth the £55m+ because two clubs have offered that amount.

    A player is only worth what somebody is willing to offer, and currently two clubs have offered £55m+ ergo, Kaka is a £55m+ footballer, whether you agree / like it or not.
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:20 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Kimbo, he quite clearly is worth the £55m+ because two clubs have offered that amount.

    A player is only worth what somebody is willing to offer, and currently two clubs have offered £55m+ ergo, Kaka is a £55m+ footballer, whether you agree / like it or not.

    So Owen was worth £17m and Denilson £23m? scratch I see your point, Kaka may be worth that much to Real and Chelsea(2 clubs who have unlimited funds) but to me? No way, if i was them i wouldn't pay it, that's my point really.
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    Post by TM Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:21 pm

    £70M for a player is really excessive for a player, regardless of his quality. That's insane money...Yikes
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    Post by Jaime Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:22 pm

    Inflation ok

    People used to think £15m was insane money...
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:22 pm

    You're talking about value for money, and that is opinion.

    I agree there are better investment opportunities available for £55m+, such as land for example as a medium to long term investment.

    However this is football, and then investment is looking to bring in instant reward, be it footballing.
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:23 pm

    Jaime wrote:Inflation ok

    People used to think £15m was insane money...

    No.

    There is just tons more money in football now then there was 15-20 years ago.

    Nothing to do with inflation.
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:24 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Inflation ok

    People used to think £15m was insane money...

    No.

    There is just tons more money in football now then there was 15-20 years ago.

    Nothing to do with inflation.

    Rosicky, tons of money is a key contributor to inflation you know..
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:25 pm

    Football Genius wrote:You're talking about value for money, and that is opinion.

    I agree there are better investment opportunities available for £55m+, such as land for example as a medium to long term investment.

    However this is football, and then investment is looking to bring in instant reward, be it footballing.

    Yes and they could do better for their money, for the money we're talking you could probably get Villa and Aguero, i rate the former higher than Kaka.

    BUT i suppose Kaka is one of the more marketable players out there so that is probably a big factor.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:31 pm

    Chelsea have made an astonishing £73.5million bid for AC Milan superstar Kaka, according to Sky Sports News sources.

    The brilliant Brazilian, widely regarded as one of the finest players on the planet, was targeted by Manchester City in the winter transfer window but elected to remain with the Serie A giants.

    Kaka went on record as recently as Tuesday to insist that he was happy with the Rossoneri and had no plans to move on this summer.

    But further speculation emerged that Real Madrid were planning a swoop following Florentino Perez's appointment as president, with the returning supremo eager to make another 'Galactico' signing.

    And Sky Sports News sources now understand that Chelsea have tabled a bid which trumps the reported offer of £56million from Santiago Bernabeu.

    Former AC Milan coach Carlo Ancelotti was installed as the new Blues manager on Monday and he could now be set to link up again with the talented playmaker.

    Chelsea's £73.5million bid is reported to be backed up by an offer of £10million-a-year in wages after tax for Kaka in a bid to lure him to Stamford Bridge.
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    Post by Jaime Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:34 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Inflation ok

    People used to think £15m was insane money...

    No.

    There is just tons more money in football now then there was 15-20 years ago.

    Nothing to do with inflation.

    Rosicky, tons of money is a key contributor to inflation you know..

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    Post by Torrente Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:34 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:You're talking about value for money, and that is opinion.

    I agree there are better investment opportunities available for £55m+, such as land for example as a medium to long term investment.

    However this is football, and then investment is looking to bring in instant reward, be it footballing.

    Yes and they could do better for their money, for the money we're talking you could probably get Villa and Aguero, i rate the former higher than Kaka.


    BUT i suppose Kaka is one of the more marketable players out there so that is probably a big factor.

    This is exactly what I was about to point out. Remember that in Real Madrid players are asked to give 50% of their image rights to the club. When you consider shirt sales, tv deals, etc., the transfer money spent on such players is easily recouped.
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:35 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Inflation ok

    People used to think £15m was insane money...

    No.

    There is just tons more money in football now then there was 15-20 years ago.

    Nothing to do with inflation.

    Rosicky, tons of money is a key contributor to inflation you know..

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    Post by L r dd Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:35 pm

    Portsmouth have put in a 120 million bid but Kaka will only go to them on the condition they get Wim something as director, according to Tony Adams.
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:03 pm

    http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~1686025,00.html

    Chelsea are apparently NOT in the running for Kaka

    CHELSEA STATEMENT ON KAKA

    Posted on: Wed 03 Jun 2009

    Chelsea Football Club has issued the following statement in response to reports that we have made a world record transfer offer for Kaka.
    'We have never made an offer to AC Milan for Kaka and therefore not one at this extraordinary level. As a consequence we have not discussed a salary with the player either. Any reports to the contrary are totally untrue.'
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    Post by Luis Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:07 pm

    Breaking news: Both Chelsea and Madrid set to miss out on Kaka as new bid is made

    An Unknown club has this evening made an offer of

    100 BILLION DOLLARS

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    Post by Jaime Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:07 pm

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:13 pm

    Berlusconi: "I don't know how the Kaka' saga will end. One thing is for sure: I will talk with him on Monday to find out what he wants."
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    Post by fcb Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:18 pm

    Clever from Berlusconi, now he'll say that it's what Kaka wanted.

    I think it's pretty obvious he's a goner...spokeperson for the Brazilian team has said "Kaka will not be allowed to go to Madrid for his presentation"
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    Post by bluenine Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:28 pm

    Laugh

    Galliani has made a 100 billion dollar offer for Kaka?? That doesn't make sense Razz

    Luis wrote:Breaking news: Both Chelsea and Madrid set to miss out on Kaka as new bid is made

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    100 BILLION DOLLARS

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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:29 pm

    Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore.

    On the one hand I think Berlusconi is odious. But on the other, I do think that Kaka' is not innocent in all of this. There are some reports that suggest he only said "I am staying at Milan" to get some "breathing room" (Sid Lowe).

    Anyway, it will all be over in a week I guess. If Kaka' is the one who asks to leave, then I think, as in the case of Sheva, they will hold a press conference in which he will clearly say so.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:37 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:You're talking about value for money, and that is opinion.

    I agree there are better investment opportunities available for £55m+, such as land for example as a medium to long term investment.

    However this is football, and then investment is looking to bring in instant reward, be it footballing.

    Yes and they could do better for their money, for the money we're talking you could probably get Villa and Aguero, i rate the former higher than Kaka.

    BUT i suppose Kaka is one of the more marketable players out there so that is probably a big factor.

    You rate David Villa higher than Kaka ?!?!?!?!

    Kaka has been one of the Champions League's best players over the last 5 years - what the fuck has Villa ever done ?
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:39 pm

    Has been very impressive at club and international level. Obviously not at Kaka level because he is playing at club which aren't as good and have many issues which need resolving.

    Seems you do have a vendetta against him though.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:41 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:Has been very impressive at club and international level. Obviously not at Kaka level because he is playing at club which aren't as good and have many issues which need resolving.

    Seems you do have a vendetta against him though.

    Well he needs to step up then doesn't he.

    I have no vendetta against him - he is a fantastic player, very dynamic but he can't be put at the same level as Kaka etc until he proves it at a big club.

    It drives me nuts when people say he's better than Eto'o.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:59 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Has been very impressive at club and international level. Obviously not at Kaka level because he is playing at club which aren't as good and have many issues which need resolving.

    Seems you do have a vendetta against him though.

    Well he needs to step up then doesn't he.

    I have no vendetta against him - he is a fantastic player, very dynamic but he can't be put at the same level as Kaka etc until he proves it at a big club.

    It drives me nuts when people say he's better than Eto'o.

    From the guy who said jones > Ronaldo and even Priskin > Bendther i find that logic bizarreish
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:03 pm

    L-r d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Ray Parlour wrote:Has been very impressive at club and international level. Obviously not at Kaka level because he is playing at club which aren't as good and have many issues which need resolving.

    Seems you do have a vendetta against him though.

    Well he needs to step up then doesn't he.

    I have no vendetta against him - he is a fantastic player, very dynamic but he can't be put at the same level as Kaka etc until he proves it at a big club.

    It drives me nuts when people say he's better than Eto'o.

    From the guy who said jones > Ronaldo and even Priskin > Bendther i find that logic bizarreish

    Ronaldo rivals Henry and Lampard as the most inefficient footballer ever (these 3 average a goal every 875,643 shots approx)

    Priskin is just a lot more talented than Bendtner and will prove so - neither of them are near their peak years unlike Kaka and Villa.
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:08 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:You're talking about value for money, and that is opinion.

    I agree there are better investment opportunities available for £55m+, such as land for example as a medium to long term investment.

    However this is football, and then investment is looking to bring in instant reward, be it footballing.

    Yes and they could do better for their money, for the money we're talking you could probably get Villa and Aguero, i rate the former higher than Kaka.

    BUT i suppose Kaka is one of the more marketable players out there so that is probably a big factor.

    You rate David Villa higher than Kaka ?!?!?!?!

    Kaka has been one of the Champions League's best players over the last 5 years - what the fuck has Villa ever done ?

    Bit of a bizarre question.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:46 pm

    Kaka' >>>>>>>>>>>>> Villa.

    If I was picking a world XI i'd have to go through more players to get to picking Villa than I would Kaka'.

    Villa > Torres though Ale
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:53 pm

    Villa over Torres everyday of the week though Torres attributes suit the premiership.

    Don't think it would matter if Villa played for Arsenal though Very Happy
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:55 pm

    Inieto'o™️ wrote:Kaka' >>>>>>>>>>>>> Villa.

    If I was picking a world XI i'd have to go through more players to get to picking Villa than I would Kaka'.

    Villa > Torres though Ale

    Who would you go through?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:09 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Inieto'o™️ wrote:Kaka' >>>>>>>>>>>>> Villa.

    If I was picking a world XI i'd have to go through more players to get to picking Villa than I would Kaka'.

    Villa > Torres though Ale

    Who would you go through?

    For Kaka's position at AM, probably only Gerrard & Iniesta right now.

    For Villa's position as CF (Eto'o, Drogba, Torres, C.Ronaldo Razz) or SS (Messi, Rooney, Zlatan & Van Persie at a stretch, it's hard to choose between the two)

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