Breaking news...Benzema to Madrid for 35m euros!!!

When the news about Kaka' first came out I said that there's a chance that Berlusconi is attempting to pull the same stunt as last January. Now word coming out of Berlusconi's political party is that the whole thing is a bluff orchestrated by the master manipulator for obvious reasons(elections on Sunday so he needs to appear as the almighty savior once again, plus if Kaka' stays he has a perfect excuse for not buying anybody).

Dunno what will happen in the end, whatever happens though it is obvious that B&G have no respect for the fans and they should get the F out ASAP.

Have Madrid signed him yet?

I doubt there'll be anything official till Monday. Till then, I think most people are assuming that yes, it's a done deal. Especially now that Chelsea have confirmed they are not in the running.

Tweedle wrote:Have Madrid signed him yet?

We'll find out on Monday whether he stays or leaves.

The Milan chief executive, Adriano Galliani, has described the club's decision to sell Kaka to Real Madrid as "solely economic" and insisted the player would never have signed for Chelsea as he only ever wanted to play in Spain.

The Brazilian is expected to complete a £56.2m move to Madrid on Monday after agreeing personal terms with the Spanish giants. The move will be met by anguish and anger by Milan supporters but Galliani insisted the offer was simply too good to turn down.

"The reasons for the departure of Kaka are solely economic," he told Gazzetta dello Sport. "Even a great heart must confront the situation and make choices. Milan can not go on losing €70 million year.

"Kaka has behaved very professionally with us, he has never asked for his deal to be revised or his contract extended. He has been here six years and won everything there is to win. But we can't afford to miss out on €70 million."

Chelsea had offered almost £20m more for the 27-year-old but, like Manchester City before them, have had to accept defeat in their attempts to lure the player to England.

"An agreement with Chelsea could not exist," insisted Galliani. "Kaka goes to Real or he remains at Milan. That is his will and we are doing everything in complete agreement."

The saga continues...

Galliani: "Para Kaká no existe el Chelsea, va al Madrid o se queda en el Milán"

El vicepresidente del Milán, Adriano Galliani, aseguró que Kaká no considera la posibilidad de marcharse al Chelsea y que "va al Real Madrid o se queda en el Milán".

En una entrevista publicada hoy por el diario deportivo italiano "La Gazzetta dello Sport", el dirigente milanista admitió que existe una negociación con el presidente del Real Madrid, Florentino Pérez, pero que no se ha llegado a un acuerdo.

"No existe la solución Chelsea; Kaká va al Real (Madrid) o se queda en el Milán. Esta es su voluntad y estamos haciendo todo de total acuerdo", apuntó Galliani.

Respecto a por qué el Milán rechazó la oferta del Manchester City, que en enero de este año había ofrecido 100 millones de euros por Kaká, y está dispuesto a aceptar ahora una sustancialmente más reducida del Madrid, el vicepresidente del Milán afirmó que Kaká "no quería" jugar en este equipo inglés, mientras que "a Madrid sí se iría".

Sobre su reunión con Pérez en la sede de ACS, Galliani explicó que se trataba de una comida "para celebrar su nombramiento" como nuevo presidente del Madrid. "Después, no lo niego, hemos hablado de Kaká", agregó.

Preguntado por la posibilidad de que el Milán renunciase a los casi 70 millones de euros que ofrece el Real Madrid si Kaká decidiera de nuevo "con el corazón", como hizo en enero ante su posible marcha al Manchester City, Galliani respondió que se está hablando "de fichajes".

"El corazón lo tenemos todos. Pero los números son tales que incluso un gran corazón tiene que enfrentarse a ellos y echar cuentas", indicó el dirigente del club milanés. Para Galliani, el Milán no puede permitirse "perder 70 millones cada año".

Asimismo, quiso tranquilizar a la afición del Milán, una parte de la cual se manifestó ayer ante la sede del club por la marcha del jugador brasileño. "No estamos redimensionando; no es que vendamos a Kaká y no compremos a nadie. Si se marcha Kaká, llegará un gran atacante", precisó, y añadió que será "un media punta".

Sin embargo, dijo que no serán ni el togolés del Arsenal Emmanuel Adebayor ni el brasileño del Juventus Amauri, y excluyó asimismo que se tratase de un jugador del Madrid.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/galliani-kaka-existe-chelsea-va/dasftb/20090604dasdasftb_7/Tes

Chelsea never made an offical bid. It was just Kaka's dad spreading false rumours to get more money. Greedy bastard

Kaka's alleged move to Real Madrid was well on the way of being wrapped earlier today as AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani publicly declared that the Brazilian is most likely to leave Italy, whereas president Silvio Berlusconi said that the move was up to the player himself.

After the two clubs agreed a fee of €65 million, conflict has now arisen between Real Madrid and Kaka's representatives, who are making astronomical demands.

According to British paper The Mirror, Kaka's agent and father, Bosco Leite, is supposedly asking for a personal commission of €11.5 million, a sum that Real Madrid president Florentino Perez thinks is much too high.

Leite is also demanding a signing-on-fee of an additional €11.5 million, plus a transfer and €1.5 million for Kaka's younger brother Digao. This would make Real Madrid pay a total €89.5 million, a sum that would break the bank as the highest transfer in history.

Real Madrid have been taken aback after receiving these outrageous demands, and are unlikely to accede to the terms of the deal. Should this be the case, then Kaka will remain at Milan, having already declared earlier this week that he wants to stay put at his current club.

Kaka is in Brazil with the national team preparing for a World Cup Qualifier against Uruguay, and has not been given permission to leave the country to sign any deals.

He has also refused to make any comments about his situation, but the Spanish press are adamant that Kaka indeed wants Madrid, declaring to his friends, "Everything is almost done. I know that I will be going to Madrid. I am very happy."

The final decision concerning Kaka's future is expected to be revealed on Monday.

AS point out that Milan have removed the photo of Kaka posing in the new Milan kit from the website.

He's definately Madrid bound.

You must be delighted Jaime.

Getting there mate. Trying to contain myself till I seem him holding our shirt but it's been a long long time since it actually seemed possible we might sign a genuinely world class player.

Jaime wrote:Getting there mate. Trying to contain myself till I seem him holding our shirt but it's been a long long time since it actually seemed possible we might sign a genuinely world class player.

Oh diddums.

Kimbo wrote:

Jaime wrote:Getting there mate. Trying to contain myself till I seem him holding our shirt but it's been a long long time since it actually seemed possible we might sign a genuinely world class player.

Oh diddums.

You act like Newcastle have never had top class players.

Who else are the priorities after Kaka?

Do you think there might still be foundation to the CR rumours.

Tweedle wrote:Who else are the priorities after Kaka?

1. Kaka
2. David Villa
3. CR


Along with that 3 other players will be signed: David Silva, Xabi Alonso and a defender. With 6 players leaving the club.

Tweedle wrote:Who else are the priorities after Kaka?

Do you think there might still be foundation to the CR rumours.

I think generally speaking Cristiano Ronaldo is the sort of player Florentino would be interested in; however, unlike Milan, I don't think Man U are willing to negotiate and he's not going to pay 100m euros or anything like that.

Plus, as we've discussed in other threads, Ramon Calderon has been going on ever since he was forced to resign that Cristiano Ronaldo was going to come to RM thanks to a deal he negotiated. I think Florentino is keen to distance himself from CR for that reason, he doesn't want a player that Calderon could take credit for.

The rest of the priorities in no particular order are the following:

1. Centre midfielder (e.g. Xabi Alonso)
2. Attacking midfielder (Silva, Ribery)
3. Striker (Villa or Forlan)
4. Left back (Canella, Clichy)
5. Centre back (Albiol)

Reckon they need a few more for sure. I mean in bad times good players can look better than they are due to the rest being even worse. For example im not fan of Higuain he is a good player but to me he is not someone who will stand out anymore, got some important goals but i think he'll figure less and less to be honest. Ruud is gone Raul is crap so they need two strikers at least.

All six players could cost you well over 200m Euros. You're not getting much for whoever you're selling either. That's insane.

How do you have that kind of money after going out of the CL early for 5-6 years. Is it all from TV?

The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

Effenberg wrote:All six players could cost you well over 200m Euros. You're not getting much for whoever you're selling either. That's insane.

How do you have that kind of money after going out of the CL early for 5-6 years. Is it all from TV?

So we spend 200m euro, I think it's pretty realistic for us to ingress 50-60m euro for outgoing players. That puts the net summer spending at around 150m euros and we've spent between 100-150m euro each of the first two years under Ramon Calderon. We have pretty good revenues right now in spite of us being sh!t.

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

At least in public Florentino has consistently said that he hasn't seen anything about the supposed pre-contract.

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

There's no pre contract and everybody knows that. It's simply not how Man Utd would work and it would be illegal for Ronaldo to do so himself. I read Perez said he read somewhere there was a pre contract where did he read it on here? Marca? It's silly. Of course Ronaldo wants to play for Madrid sometime but no way is there a contract. And to be honest 75 mill probably would do it.

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

That's crazy.

L-r d wrote:

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

There's no pre contract and everybody knows that. It's simply not how Man Utd would work and it would be illegal for Ronaldo to do so himself. I read Perez said he read somewhere there was a pre contract where did he read it on here? Marca? It's silly. Of course Ronaldo wants to play for Madrid sometime but no way is there a contract. And to be honest 75 mill probably would do it.

No Perez said that he keeps hearing there is pre-contract but he hasn't seen it and nobody has shown him evidence that it exists.

Effenberg wrote:All six players could cost you well over 200m Euros. You're not getting much for whoever you're selling either. That's insane.

How do you have that kind of money after going out of the CL early for 5-6 years. Is it all from TV?

Image rights for the players.

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

There's no pre contract and everybody knows that. It's simply not how Man Utd would work and it would be illegal for Ronaldo to do so himself. I read Perez said he read somewhere there was a pre contract where did he read it on here? Marca? It's silly. Of course Ronaldo wants to play for Madrid sometime but no way is there a contract. And to be honest 75 mill probably would do it.

No Perez said that he keeps hearing there is pre-contract but he hasn't seen it and nobody has shown him evidence that it exists.

Not sure how eithers claim would stand up in court, considering its illegal.

L-r d wrote:

Super Ribery wrote:The rumor I heard is that Perez has indeed stumbled upon the pre contract that Calderon made with Ronaldo. The problem for Perez is that amount being talked about is 120M which includes all fees with agents etc. Perez wants that fee down to 75M. Another problem is that Perez wasn't that keen on Ronaldo in the start and it seems some of the interest is also down to the pre contract which says one of the two parties will have to pay 30M to the part who doesn't hold up his part in the deal and Perez is trying to figure out Real Madrid is obligated to follow through or it is Calderon.

There's no pre contract and everybody knows that. It's simply not how Man Utd would work and it would be illegal for Ronaldo to do so himself. I read Perez said he read somewhere there was a pre contract where did he read it on here? Marca? It's silly. Of course Ronaldo wants to play for Madrid sometime but no way is there a contract. And to be honest 75 mill probably would do it.

Im not sure of any of this since it is built on Calderon being able to get some deal out of Man Utd which I have a hard time seeing happen. What could be true is a deal with Ronaldo and his agent. That it is illegal doesn't mean much really because nobody is really going to confirm it anyway.
However it would be a great great present for me if somehow Calderon trying to get Ronaldo means Perez can't do it since Calderon would get the credit. I would be quite grateful to Calderon for that one.

200m euros. Jesus wept. I know I've said it before, but where the fuck is all that money coming from?

Well i'd say being illegal means something. Surely either side could pull out and the other side couldn't do fuck all about it. I think Calderon was just talking shit as usual and some people seem to believe him god knows why. But logic suggests there's nothing in it, but from what Perez has been saying he clearly does want Ronaldo. And he compared him to Zidane saying what seems the most expensive may be the cheapest, i hope you like that comparison

Tweedle wrote:200m euros. Jesus wept. I know I've said it before, but where the fuck is all that money coming from?

We sold Franco's pijamas for about 100m euro. Plus we're still selling Beckham t-shirts. I think there might be some tv money too. And a lemonade stand.

L-r d wrote:Well i'd say being illegal means something. Surely either side could pull out and the other side couldn't do fuck all about it. I think Calderon was just talking shit as usual and some people seem to believe him god knows why. But logic suggests there's nothing in it, but from what Perez has been saying he clearly does want Ronaldo. And he compared him to Zidane saying what seems the most expensive may be the cheapest, i hope you like that comparison

I think this is the most likely scenario.

Perez has said that CR is the sort of player that he wants at Madrid (i.e. world class) but he's said the same of Kaka, Messi, etc. It doesn't mean we're signing him. Although I wouldn't rule anything out.

Jaime wrote:

L-r d wrote:Well i'd say being illegal means something. Surely either side could pull out and the other side couldn't do fuck all about it. I think Calderon was just talking shit as usual and some people seem to believe him god knows why. But logic suggests there's nothing in it, but from what Perez has been saying he clearly does want Ronaldo. And he compared him to Zidane saying what seems the most expensive may be the cheapest, i hope you like that comparison

I think this is the most likely scenario.

Perez has said that CR is the sort of player that he wants at Madrid (i.e. world class) but he's said the same of Kaka, Messi, etc. It doesn't mean we're signing him. Although I wouldn't rule anything out.

Man United turnover about £250m a year (the exact figure was in another thread)

I refuse to believe Real make a significant amount more than this.

Now take half of this away for wages and then consider every other cost of running a football club

It all adds up to colossal debt