Super Real Ronaldo wrote:Real Madrid and Barcelona have always been spending quite a bit more then the others but the likes of Valencia/Deportivo managed to push the teams over several seasons. Even Real Sociedad raised their game one season against the best Real Madrid side I have seen and they probably should have won the league that season. I don't worry too much because both Barcelona and Real Madrid have inbuilt selfdestruction buttons.
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Breaking news...Benzema to Madrid for 35m euros!!!
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Torrente wrote:Nutwing, would you want Robinho to replace Ronaldo in United?
Dont ask stupid bloody questions!!!
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As I walk this land with broken dreams
I have visions of many things
Love's happiness is just an illusion
Filled with sadness and confusion,
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
Maybe.
The fruits of love grow all around
But for me they come a tumblin' down.
Every day heartaches grow a little stronger
I can't stand this pain much longer
I walk in shadows
Searching for light
Cold and alone
No comfort in sight,
Hoping and praying for someone to care
Always moving and goin to where
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
Maybe.
I'm searching though I don't succeed,
But someone look, there's a growing need.
Oh, he is lost, there's no place for beginning,
All that's left is an unhappy ending.
Now what's become of the broken-hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
I'll be searching everywhere
Just to find someone to care.
I'll be looking everyday
I know I'm gonna find a way
Nothings gonna stop me now
I'll find a way somehow
I'll be searching everywhere
I have visions of many things
Love's happiness is just an illusion
Filled with sadness and confusion,
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
Maybe.
The fruits of love grow all around
But for me they come a tumblin' down.
Every day heartaches grow a little stronger
I can't stand this pain much longer
I walk in shadows
Searching for light
Cold and alone
No comfort in sight,
Hoping and praying for someone to care
Always moving and goin to where
What becomes of the broken hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
Maybe.
I'm searching though I don't succeed,
But someone look, there's a growing need.
Oh, he is lost, there's no place for beginning,
All that's left is an unhappy ending.
Now what's become of the broken-hearted
Who had love that's now departed?
I know I've got to find
Some kind of peace of mind
I'll be searching everywhere
Just to find someone to care.
I'll be looking everyday
I know I'm gonna find a way
Nothings gonna stop me now
I'll find a way somehow
I'll be searching everywhere
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How very fitting
Move bitch, get out the way
Get out the way bitch, get out the way
Move bitch, get out the way
Get out the way bitch, get out the way
OH NO! The fight's out
I'ma 'bout to punch yo...lights out
Get the FUCK back, guard ya grill
There's somethin' wrong, we can't stay still
I've been drankin' and bustin' two
and I been thankin' of bustin' you
Upside ya motherfuckin' forehead
And if your friends jump in, "Ohhh gurrlll", they'll be mo' dead
Causin' confusion, Disturbin Tha Peace
It's not an illusion, we runnin the streets
So bye-bye to all you groupies and golddiggers
Is there a bumper on your ass? NO NIGGA!
I'm doin' a hundred on the highway
So if you do the speed limit, get the FUCK outta my way
I'm D.U.I., hardly ever caught sober
and you about to get ran the FUCK over
[Chorus]
BITCH! Watch out, watch out, watch out
BITCH! Watch out, watch out, watch out, move
Here I come, here I go
UH OH! Don't jump bitch, move
You see them headlights? You hear that fuckin' crowd?
Start that goddamn show, I'm comin' through
Hit the stage and knock the curtains down
I fuck the crowd up - that's what I do
Young and successful - a sex symbol
The bitches want me to fuck - true true
Hold up wait up, shorty
"Oh wazzzupp, get my dick sucked, what are yoouu doin'?"
Sidelinin' my fuckin' bussiness
Tryin' to get my baby child support soon
Give me that truck and take that rental back
Who bought these fuckin' T.V.'s and jewelry bitch, tell me that?
No, I ain't bitter, I don't give a fuck
But i'ma tell you like this bitch
You better not walk in front of my tour bus
[Chorus]
Bring it, get 'em
Too bad I'm on the right track
Beef, got the right mack
Hit the trunk, grab the pump pump, I'll be right back
We buyin' bars out, showin' scars out
We heard there's hoes out, so we brought the cars out
Grab the pills cuz we poppin tonight,
Beat the shit outta security for stoppin' tha fight
I got a fifth of the remy, fuck the Belve and 'cris
I'm sellin' shit up in the club like I work in the bitch
Fuck the dress codes, it's street clothes, we all street niggaz
We on the dance floor, throwin' bows, beatin' up niggaz
I'm from the D.E.C., tryin' to disrespect D.T.P.
And watch the bottles start flyin' from the V.I.P.
Fuck this rap shit, we clap bitch, two in your body
Grab ya four, start a fight dog, ruin the party
So move bitch, get out the way hoe
All you faggot motherfuckers make way for 2-0
So...
Move bitch, get out the way
Get out the way bitch, get out the way
Move bitch, get out the way
Get out the way bitch, get out the way
OH NO! The fight's out
I'ma 'bout to punch yo...lights out
Get the FUCK back, guard ya grill
There's somethin' wrong, we can't stay still
I've been drankin' and bustin' two
and I been thankin' of bustin' you
Upside ya motherfuckin' forehead
And if your friends jump in, "Ohhh gurrlll", they'll be mo' dead
Causin' confusion, Disturbin Tha Peace
It's not an illusion, we runnin the streets
So bye-bye to all you groupies and golddiggers
Is there a bumper on your ass? NO NIGGA!
I'm doin' a hundred on the highway
So if you do the speed limit, get the FUCK outta my way
I'm D.U.I., hardly ever caught sober
and you about to get ran the FUCK over
[Chorus]
BITCH! Watch out, watch out, watch out
BITCH! Watch out, watch out, watch out, move
Here I come, here I go
UH OH! Don't jump bitch, move
You see them headlights? You hear that fuckin' crowd?
Start that goddamn show, I'm comin' through
Hit the stage and knock the curtains down
I fuck the crowd up - that's what I do
Young and successful - a sex symbol
The bitches want me to fuck - true true
Hold up wait up, shorty
"Oh wazzzupp, get my dick sucked, what are yoouu doin'?"
Sidelinin' my fuckin' bussiness
Tryin' to get my baby child support soon
Give me that truck and take that rental back
Who bought these fuckin' T.V.'s and jewelry bitch, tell me that?
No, I ain't bitter, I don't give a fuck
But i'ma tell you like this bitch
You better not walk in front of my tour bus
[Chorus]
Bring it, get 'em
Too bad I'm on the right track
Beef, got the right mack
Hit the trunk, grab the pump pump, I'll be right back
We buyin' bars out, showin' scars out
We heard there's hoes out, so we brought the cars out
Grab the pills cuz we poppin tonight,
Beat the shit outta security for stoppin' tha fight
I got a fifth of the remy, fuck the Belve and 'cris
I'm sellin' shit up in the club like I work in the bitch
Fuck the dress codes, it's street clothes, we all street niggaz
We on the dance floor, throwin' bows, beatin' up niggaz
I'm from the D.E.C., tryin' to disrespect D.T.P.
And watch the bottles start flyin' from the V.I.P.
Fuck this rap shit, we clap bitch, two in your body
Grab ya four, start a fight dog, ruin the party
So move bitch, get out the way hoe
All you faggot motherfuckers make way for 2-0
So...
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When blood starts coming out, you know its time to stop Nutters
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Madrid are getting the money for all this via 2 bank loans of around 75m euros each (at least, could be more...Jaime keeps telling us that La Caixa has also loaned them money)
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_spanish_government_surprised&prov=goal&type=lgns
The Spanish government have voiced their surprise about Real Madrid's huge loans from two banks at a time when the country's economy is in recession and smaller companies are unable to borrow money.
Finance Minister Elena Salgado expressed her concern that Caja Madrid had managed to lend €76.5 million to Los Merengues at such a delicate time.
Banco Santander have also agreed to loan Madrid a similar quantity and that is reported to have allowed the club to make their huge offers for Kaka and Cristiano Ronaldo.
"It surprises me, and what I would ask banks is that: if they have liquidity, that they also make loans to small and medium-size companies and families," Salgado is quoted as saying by USA Today.
"I would ask that they make an effort for them."
The minister also put her message across without saying too much when she was asked for her thoughts on the €94 million outlay to sign Ronaldo from Manchester United.
"It goes beyond the dimensions of what I would have imagined," she added.
After ten years of boom time in Spain due mainly to the construction industry, there is now a recession and many banks are in trouble because of their exposure to the real estate sector.
Caja Madrid's annual profits fell by 71 per cent last year and that is one of the reasons why some people have raised their eyebrows at the agreement on Monday to lend Madrid the money.
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=goal_spanish_government_surprised&prov=goal&type=lgns
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I haven't slept at all in days
It's been so long since we've talked
And I have been here many times
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
There's only so much I can take
And I just got to let it go
And who knows I might feel better
If I don't try and I don't hope
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
No more waiting, No more aching
No more fighting, No more trying
Maybe there's nothing more to say
And in a funny way I'm calm
Because the power is not mine
I'm just gonna let it fly
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
Love me..
It's been so long since we've talked
And I have been here many times
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
There's only so much I can take
And I just got to let it go
And who knows I might feel better
If I don't try and I don't hope
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
No more waiting, No more aching
No more fighting, No more trying
Maybe there's nothing more to say
And in a funny way I'm calm
Because the power is not mine
I'm just gonna let it fly
What can I do to make you love me
What can I do to make you care
What can I say to make you feel this
What can I do to get you there
Love me..
TITO- Number of posts : 3155
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Goal.com is reporting that u got Albiol.
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TITO wrote:Goal.com is reporting that u got Albiol.
Yup, it's official - 15m euro. On the website and everything.
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What's next? Since Villa app is not coming.
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TITO wrote:What's next? Since Villa app is not coming.
Villa could still very easily come. Obviously when he returns from South Africa he will deal with things. But supposedly we are looking into Benzema if he doesn't come.
Earlier in the week the rumours about Ribery were going strong but that story has cooled in the last day or two. Also still lots of rumours that a deal for X. Alonso and Arbeloa is in the works.
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Do you have any back-up for Alonso in case he doesn't come or he does not fulfill the expectations? I know u have Lass, but somehow i doubt that he will be able to cary on that duty.
And i'm mentioning Alonso's case just because i have my doubts that he will deliver what u expect from him.
And i'm mentioning Alonso's case just because i have my doubts that he will deliver what u expect from him.
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Oddly there haven't been a lot of other names mentioned in the rumours for the position of mediocentro. Not in the press anyhow.
But exactly what do you think we expect from him and why do you think he won't deliver?
But exactly what do you think we expect from him and why do you think he won't deliver?
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Maybe you'll just pair the Diarras together
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kas wrote:Maybe you'll just pair the Diarras together
Or maybe we'll get Cesc after his comments in the....Sun.
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the two diarras could work, but they won't be keeping much possession, madrid will have to play a predominantly counter attack game, but those two would protect the defense wonderfully well and give the attacking players the freedom to attack.
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Messiah wrote:the two diarras could work, but they won't be keeping much possession, madrid will have to play a predominantly counter attack game, but those two would protect the defense wonderfully well and give the attacking players the freedom to attack.
This is exactly why it won't work. The attacking players can't attack if we don't have the ball.
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Jaime wrote:Oddly there haven't been a lot of other names mentioned in the rumours for the position of mediocentro. Not in the press anyhow.
But exactly what do you think we expect from him and why do you think he won't deliver?
I just feel that he will get a lot of pressure to maintain the balance in the middle, keep the ball and feed the forwards. He can't do that on his own. And he needs somebody to pair with him, and both Diarra's can't do that, at least not from what we have seen so far.
Maybe i'm a little bit biased, but i always take as a point of view our midfield and the way it's organized.
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Jaime wrote:Messiah wrote:the two diarras could work, but they won't be keeping much possession, madrid will have to play a predominantly counter attack game, but those two would protect the defense wonderfully well and give the attacking players the freedom to attack.
This is exactly why it won't work. The attacking players can't attack if we don't have the ball.
You would win the ball back more and the transition play would be more dangerous though.
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So you rate him, I really dont, he is decent and all that but not worth 15 m specially as a defender.Jaime wrote:TITO wrote:Goal.com is reporting that u got Albiol.
Yup, it's official - 15m euro. On the website and everything.
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Take the prices with a pinch of salt DS...Madrid have self-inflated the transfer market.
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Still, they could have gotten someone like Carvalho, proven player, an organizer of defence, which neither Albiol, Pepe or Garay are.
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Im not interested in playing on the break or direct play. At least not as the foundations of the team. The team should be about keeping the ball.Six wrote:Jaime wrote:Messiah wrote:the two diarras could work, but they won't be keeping much possession, madrid will have to play a predominantly counter attack game, but those two would protect the defense wonderfully well and give the attacking players the freedom to attack.
This is exactly why it won't work. The attacking players can't attack if we don't have the ball.
You would win the ball back more and the transition play would be more dangerous though.
It was possible to do it with side passers like Makelele-Flavio only because Zidane-Figo-Raul were excellent in keeping the ball.
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They still have problems at fullback position, Ramos time and time again gets done by winger/wingforwards and they dont have a decent LB, and Ramos isnt likely to get much help from Ronaldo.
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RC is 31 and becoming very injury prone, I'm one of RC biggest fans but if we were going to sign him it should have been the year he went to Chelsea.
Raul Albiol is a good purchase, he's a solid defender and still young so will have time to futher improve. Just out of curiosity how many Valencia games did you watch last season?
Raul Albiol is a good purchase, he's a solid defender and still young so will have time to futher improve. Just out of curiosity how many Valencia games did you watch last season?
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but ronaldo and kaka aren't great ball keepers, which is why i'm sure pellegrini hasn't had a say in their signings, they don't fit is philosophy at all, unless he is going to change his style of play completely.
so for me its going to be more are less a on the break, direct sort of play, or kaka and ronaldo will have to learn every quickly.
so for me its going to be more are less a on the break, direct sort of play, or kaka and ronaldo will have to learn every quickly.
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TITO wrote:Jaime wrote:Oddly there haven't been a lot of other names mentioned in the rumours for the position of mediocentro. Not in the press anyhow.
But exactly what do you think we expect from him and why do you think he won't deliver?
I just feel that he will get a lot of pressure to maintain the balance in the middle, keep the ball and feed the forwards. He can't do that on his own. And he needs somebody to pair with him, and both Diarra's can't do that, at least not from what we have seen so far.
Maybe i'm a little bit biased, but i always take as a point of view our midfield and the way it's organized.
What I think Alonso will be very good at doing for us (IF he comes, of course) will be to get the team moving forward. That is the problem with Gago and Lass playing together. They are both fairly competent at playing short passes to the side and backwards but when it's time to go forward Lass lacks the vision and Gago lacks the accuracy to make the pass from the middle third into the final third. Alonso can do this. Once we get into the final third then Kaka will be there to play the final ball to the forwards. At least that is how I see it happening.
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Quite a decent amount, how many games do you need to watch to form an opinion ?TM wrote:RC is 31 and becoming very injury prone, I'm one of RC biggest fans but if we were going to sign him it should have been the year he went to Chelsea.
Raul Albiol is a good purchase, he's a solid defender and still young so will have time to futher improve. Just out of curiosity how many Valencia games did you watch last season?
He is a decent defender but that is it for me, he may improve who knows but for me he isnt what I would class among top level defenders out there.
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For me, you are expecting too much from Alonso Jaime.
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DS wrote:So you rate him, I really dont, he is decent and all that but not worth 15 m specially as a defender.Jaime wrote:TITO wrote:Goal.com is reporting that u got Albiol.
Yup, it's official - 15m euro. On the website and everything.
kas wrote:Take the prices with a pinch of salt DS...Madrid have self-inflated the transfer market.
Says the geezer whose club paid 17m euro for Martin f*cking Caceres last year. Albiol is still learning but he still the best young centre back in the country. He struggled last year because he was playing with the likes of Helguera, Maduro, and Marchena (who I don't rate). He's good in the air, a good man marker, good playing the ball from the back and not great pace but not slow like Pique either.
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