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    Post by Roger Hunt Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:28 pm

    Snowbispo wrote: Or... You could have said Garcia, Agger and Kuyt for under £20million... Or... Momo, Garcia, Agger and josemi for under £20mil

    Rafa's a genius.

    Truth is, all managers make some good and some bad signings.

    Where Rafa really impresses me is with the josemi, krompkamp, nunez, types, that don't make it and get shipped off quickly. He doesn't protect his mistakes the way Houllier did.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:29 pm

    L r d wrote:
    You have some inside info?

    none whatsoever. An educated gamblers selection, of all the 'fringe' candidates he is the only viable option. At 30-1 alongside the likes of O'Leary, Robson, Keegan and McLeash he is the only one with any real world pedigree. I fancy him to be backed into 10-1 in the next few days. The chairman's unlikely to go for a mediocre mid table manager, he has already stated his ambition. Ranieri would take the job no doubt and as soon as Erikson/Curbishly rule themselves out he'll easily become a frontunner. Not a done deal but at 30-1 well worth a tenner.
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    Post by L r d Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:29 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:
    Snowbispo wrote: Or... You could have said Garcia, Agger and Kuyt for under £20million... Or... Momo, Garcia, Agger and josemi for under £20mil

    Rafa's a genius.

    Truth is, all managers make some good and some bad signings.

    Where Rafa really impresses me is with the josemi, krompkamp, nunez, types, that don't make it and get shipped off quickly. He doesn't protect his mistakes the way Houllier did.

    Yeah. I like that about him. Plus, the only player I think we've lost money on (that Rafa's bought) is Nando and let's be honest, people would have thought us crazy if we passed up the opportunity to sign him at the time.
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:32 pm

    Christmas Glenn Hysén wrote:
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    Tinseldum wrote:Did Gardner cost over £9m? Yikes
    Never.


    Anthony Gardner cost £1m.

    He means Dean Richards for £8m Embarassed


    Thanks for that, by the way...

    where did all that money go?

    Walcott, Davies, Beatie, Richards to name a few big sales.....


    Don't forget Crouch to Liverpool for 7 million.

    Well, a lot of that money went to paying off the loan we took out for the new stadium, and towards keeping us afloat. But this summer just gone we spent a fair bit of money - 1.6 million on Skacel for example, which has significantly strengthened our team. And we've only had 7 million of the possible 12 for Walcott.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:32 pm

    Yeah, he looked nailed on as a good buy didn't he.

    Having said that, do you remember all the Toffees crowing that at £6.5m Beattie was a better buy than Nando? Tee-hee... at least we got some cash when we sold him...
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:35 pm

    Obi - Lets find common Ground Wink


    £10m on Albert Luque
    £17m on Michael Owen
    £6.5m on Scott Parker
    £8m for Jean-Alain Boumsong
    £6m for Titus Bramble.


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    Post by L r d Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:35 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:Yeah, he looked nailed on as a good buy didn't he.

    Having said that, do you remember all the Toffees crowing that at £6.5m Beattie was a better buy than Nando? Tee-hee... at least we got some cash when we sold him...

    Speaking of the bitters...

    EVERTON Football Club have signed an exclusive deal towards the building of a new stadium in Kirkby.

    The Blues have agreed that the move four miles from Goodison is now their preferred option, and have reached formal agreement with Knowsley council and Tesco to start the project.

    The news of the deal will be formally announced to shareholders tonight at the club's AGM at Goodison Park, the Blues home for 114 years.

    If the scheme goes ahead it would not only provide Everton with a world-class venue but would also mean a multi-million pound regeneration of Kirkby.

    It is hoped the three-way partnership with Tesco and Knowsley will keep costs of building the venue to an absolute minimum.


    However,the club, which has made no comment on today's agreement, will tonight emphasis the fact that no final decision on moving has been taken.

    Above all, the Blues will stress their supporters will be fully involved during negotiation and discussion, and well before any final decision to quit Goodison.

    Although the project is only in its infancy, if it was to be adopted and completed, the centrepiece would be a state-of-the-art stadium for the Blues, a world class venue which would hold at least 50,000 people.

    Though they would ideally have preferred to have remained within the Liverpool city boundary, it is believed the as-yet undisclosed potential stadium site stands less than four miles from Goodison as the crow flies.

    Despite recent talk of a move to Kirkby, Everton have always maintained there were three options open - a new, stand-alone stadium, a shared stadium with Liverpool FC, or the rebuilding of Goodison.

    With Liverpool now close to concluding a huge investment deal with Dubai and the cost of regenerating Goodison believed to be prohibitively high, Blues chairman Bill Kenwright and his fellow directors arethought to have opted for a move away from the club's much-loved home.
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    Post by L r d Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:37 pm

    TeamTurtleDoves™️ wrote:Obi - Lets find common Ground Wink


    £10m on Albert Luque
    £17m on Michael Owen
    £6.5m on Scott Parker
    £8m for Jean-Alain Boumsong
    £6m for Titus Bramble.


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    Don't forget Martins, Marcelinho, Robert, Dyer, Duff, Carr etc etc...

    Even their 'bargains' are shit Laugh
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    Post by Deano Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:41 pm

    Pardew will be the new manager of Crystal Palace....have some money on that!

    I hope we nick George Burley from Southampton....hes a great manager at a small mediocre club
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:01 pm

    Deaño-Good Luck Pards! wrote:Pardew will be the new manager of Crystal Palace....have some money on that!

    I hope we nick George Burley from Southampton....hes a great manager at a small mediocre club


    Fuck off.
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    Post by Football Genius Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:03 pm

    santagoingmarching wrote:
    Deaño-Good Luck Pards! wrote:Pardew will be the new manager of Crystal Palace....have some money on that!

    I hope we nick George Burley from Southampton....hes a great manager at a small mediocre club


    Fuck off.

    You got one part right Deano, the mediocre club bit Laugh
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:05 pm

    You can fuck off as well. Call yourself a genius...
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    Post by Deano Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:05 pm

    Its a true point...he is a premiership standard manager IMO...

    done great with Ipswich..without him they've failed
    done great with Derby...they now have a decent replacement
    done great at Hearts..they are now in the shit...
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:52 am

    Apparently Curbishley has put himself forward for the West Ham job:

    http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=434686&CPID=8&clid=21&lid=4161&title=Curbs+keen+on+Hammers+return
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    Post by Mistletoe. Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:09 am

    Some unknown Icelandic biscuit shop manager will take over. Leading Wstaaammmm on a downward spirral into oblivion, when they can fold up the club, demolish the stadium and build some desent council housing for the good old cockney working class.
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    Post by Deano Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:33 am

    Mistletoe. wrote:Some unknown Icelandic biscuit shop manager will take over. Leading Wstaaammmm on a downward spirral into oblivion, when they can fold up the club, demolish the stadium and build some desent council housing for the good old cockney working class.

    you mean the downward spirla like Millwall are on? that never ends..

    @sheffield-he's the only candidate I can really see for the job to be honest.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:02 am

    No offence to Pardew but Curbs is a much better manager than him IMO and will take West Ham to a new level ok
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    Post by Deano Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:05 am

    Tinseldum wrote:No offence to Pardew but Curbs is a much better manager than him IMO and will take West Ham to a new level ok

    well I disagree...BUT I hope that Curbs is appointed as he is the best manager out there available..and he has the potential to bring us to that next level
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    Post by L r d Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:06 am

    Actually, if you look at his club record, Sven is easily the best available.

    Shame the press and half the fans would likely be out for him from the moment he arrived.
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    Post by Mistletoe. Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:07 am

    Tinseldum wrote:No offence to Pardew but Curbs is a much better manager than him IMO and will take West Ham to a new level ok

    What, the conference?

    I look forward to Millwall playing them in 2/3 years time, another easy 4/6 points.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:10 am

    Sven IS the best available on records...

    But Curbs has the club link and Deano I think you're wrong.

    Curbs kept a damn small team in the premiership for 7 years with virtually no investment and it wasn't like they were ever struggling with relegation either!

    Pardew almost got sacked in the Championship did he not? then he sneaks in the back door to the premiership and suddenly hes the Hammers hero! has a good season then slumps the second, can't remember Curbs doing that, in fact all i remember is him being constantly linked to the egnaldn job and being praised pretty much non-stop scratch

    Curbs is easily better than Pardew
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:13 am

    Sven is not a West Ham manager imo - he's far too tactically conservative. WHU fans like attacking, attractive football.

    Also he'll want stupid money.
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    Post by L r d Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:15 am

    His Lazio team were attacking Ale He tried to play Veron, Crespo, Stankovic, Nedved and Lopez all in the same side where possible in his last season.

    His England side was shocking to watch but apart from 2 games at the start of his reign, McClaren's has been exactly the same.

    He may want alot of cash but I'd be alot more confident in the Argies and Ashton producing the goods for Sven than for any of the others mentioned.
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    Post by Deano Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:16 am

    Tinseldum wrote:Sven IS the best available on records...

    But Curbs has the club link and Deano I think you're wrong.

    Curbs kept a damn small team in the premiership for 7 years with virtually no investment and it wasn't like they were ever struggling with relegation either!

    Pardew almost got sacked in the Championship did he not? then he sneaks in the back door to the premiership and suddenly hes the Hammers hero! has a good season then slumps the second, can't remember Curbs doing that, in fact all i remember is him being constantly linked to the egnaldn job and being praised pretty much non-stop scratch

    Curbs is easily better than Pardew

    erm Pardew took over a depleted squad...and rebuilt it..took us into the premiership..to an FA Cup final etc..so yeha he is a hammers hero which is why 99% of our fans will be chanting his name Sunday and are disgusted with the decision....
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    Post by L r d Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:18 am

    Pardew will probably end up at Charlton in 2 months time and restore some pride to them before they go down. Then he'll end up nicking some of the over-looked West Ham players and take Charlton back up by 2008.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:19 am

    Snowbispo wrote:He may want alot of cash but I'd be alot more confident in the Argies and Ashton producing the goods for Sven than for any of the others mentioned.

    I still think Curbishley is the safer and better value-for-money option, he's got Prem experience which Sven hasn't, and certainly for the rest of this season it's about scrapping with the lower end teams and avoiding relegation.

    Sven would be OK coming in in June when he had a fat pile of cash and the transfer window ahead of him.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:20 am

    Well I agree you should be disgusted with the decision and yes, it is the players fault that you are not doing well - but at the end of the day is it not the managers responsibility to motivate the players?

    things can become stale at a club and sometimes it is just the best decision to change managers, just to freshen things up if anything.

    So at present it looks like a bad decision but being honest, I could see the problems getting worse before getting better if Parew had stayed.

    I think at the end of the season you're be considerably better off than you would have been with Pardew at the club and at the end of the day this Magnessen bloke has invested a lot of money in your club so will want the best outcomes rather than having a dead horse to flog at the end of it.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:22 am

    Obi does raise a valid point - I don't think Curbs will be able to get the best out the Argies whereas IMO Sven would - it seems he is prefect for working with Argies in fact and to ge tthe best out of them he would be a good option.

    Dire football is guaranteed though and if they leave at the end of the season and the decision to employ him purely on the grounds of getting the best out the argies would seem a flawed one
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    Post by Deano Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:26 am

    The Argies will be gone in the summer...its a shame as Tevez has started to show his class...among a bunch of underperforming twats...
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:27 am

    Still hasn't scored though Razz

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