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    C Ronaldo the best player in the world?

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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:00 pm

    El Tiki Taka wrote:He probably will end up winning world player of the year, but we shouldn't forget that this season neither he, Rooney nor Tevez track back as they normally would in a 4-4-2.

    Rooney was doing a lot of track-backing yesterday and Ronaldo has this season remember one example being the home games against Kiev (This is one side of his game hes improved). Plus one of Tevez's best attributes he brought to the team was the wiliness to track back.
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    Post by L.r.d Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:12 pm

    El Tiki Taka wrote:He probably will end up winning world player of the year, but we shouldn't forget that this season neither he, Rooney nor Tevez track back as they normally would in a 4-4-2.

    Not following you here.....? its not a 4-3-3. A winger plays on the left be it nani or giggs. I think Ronaldo may benefit from having two strikers who track back a fair bit but im not sure if thats what you meant.
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    Post by Arnaud loves Catherine Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:27 pm

    Incredible player...I always thought Ronaldinho was a class ahead everyone technically but C.Ronaldo is as good if not better.

    Just imagine them in the same team!wow...

    I voted yes cos Ronaldo is really amazing this season.Will be player of the year without doubt <Ale>
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:32 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Only 2 goals against a reserve defence could stop him being WPOTY.

    still bitter Parky? Razz
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:35 pm

    @ Bobo

    Did you manage to catch Rio's elegant deafening last night? Cappelo was at the game and was drooling, hes worked with Baresi and now he will work with Ferdinand.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:52 pm

    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...
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    Post by TM Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:54 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.
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    Post by shazlx Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:54 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:55 pm

    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.
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    Post by TM Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:56 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player Wink
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:57 pm

    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale
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    Post by TM Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:58 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale

    World cup winning Maradona?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:58 pm

    Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:59 pm

    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale

    World cup winning Maradona?

    Nah, the singer. Who do you think.
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    Post by shazlx Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:59 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
    Who said he lacks technique?
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:59 pm

    Gotta love this "if he was playing in spain or italy", "if he was brazilian", blah, blah...Anyway I prefer "if he had played better than Kaká in the UCL semifinal". It sounds more realistic to me.
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    Post by TM Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:59 pm

    Technique differs from player to player, CR hits the ball with the instep of his foot, Juninho laces it etc.

    Also CR had a hunched body shape for last nights Freekick, some strange technique but brilliant end product.
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    Post by L.r.d Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:00 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well

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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:00 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
    Who said he lacks technique?

    I thought someone questioned it back at the start? If not then fair play
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    Post by TM Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:00 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale

    World cup winning Maradona?

    Nah, the singer. Who do you think.

    I think that's a ridiculous comment.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:01 pm

    sheva7 wrote:Gotta love this "if he was playing in spain or italy", "if he was brazilian", blah, blah...Anyway I prefer "if he had played better than Kaká in the UCL semifinal". It sounds more realistic to me.

    Well Utd have a reserve defence playing. I'm sure Ronaldo would have done better if Milan hadn't had Maldini, Nesta, Oddo and Jankulovski
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:02 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well

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    I'm just being honest.
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    Post by L.r.d Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:02 pm

    sheva7 wrote:Gotta love this "if he was playing in spain or italy", "if he was brazilian", blah, blah...Anyway I prefer "if he had played better than Kaká in the UCL semifinal". It sounds more realistic to me.

    We have two examples.

    We have Beckham, who wins 3 trophies, has a great cl and wins it. Yet Rivaldo wins the wpoty.
    Now we have c.ronaldo, has an amazing season better than everybody, but kaka has a better cl wins cl, and wins wpoty.

    So? Thats where the argument comes in. If Kaka deserved it then Beckham should have won it right?
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:03 pm

    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale

    World cup winning Maradona?

    Nah, the singer. Who do you think.

    I think that's a ridiculous comment.

    Well the way people go on about him I’m sorry if I was misled. Reckon Van Persie will be on the same level, if he gets back onto the football pitch.
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    Post by shazlx Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:03 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
    Who said he lacks technique?

    I thought someone questioned it back at the start? If not then fair play
    He has good technique, not great technique like Scholes, Nani or Tevez.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:04 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:@ Bobo

    Did you manage to catch Rio's elegant deafening last night? Cappelo was at the game and was drooling, hes worked with Baresi and now he will work with Ferdinand.

    Capello has worked with Zebina too.

    Anyway, whats this got to do with this thread?
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    Post by L.r.d Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:04 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
    Who said he lacks technique?

    I thought someone questioned it back at the start? If not then fair play
    He has good technique, not great technique like Scholes, Nani or Tevez.

    Excuse me?
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    Post by shazlx Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 pm

    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Nummer 14 wrote:
    TM wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Ibra-cadabra

    No way. Ronaldo's spent most of his season as a winger and STILL has outscored Ibrah.

    The only other players that could be regarded as close to Ronaldo are Kaka and Messi, and IMO both aren't producing the goods like Ronaldo is at the moment.

    To put it another way, if he played for Barca, Real or Milan and had the season he had last season and this season, he'd be winning the WPOTY award for the second year running next December.

    Best player on the planet?

    Yep...

    Messi has recently come back from an injury that has kept him out for a month, and had other minor injuries this season. So it's been pretty start - stop season thus far, but still has managed 12 goals.

    He reminds me of Wayne Rooney this season.

    But Messi is a decent player :Wink:

    He is already better than Maradona Ale

    World cup winning Maradona?

    Nah, the singer. Who do you think.

    I think that's a ridiculous comment.

    Well the way people go on about him I’m sorry if I was misled. Reckon Van Persie will be on the same level, if he gets back onto the football pitch.
    I have a feeling Aguero will be better than Messi. I already prefer him.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 pm

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    Nummer 14 wrote:@ Bobo

    Did you manage to catch Rio's elegant deafening last night? Cappelo was at the game and was drooling, hes worked with Baresi and now he will work with Ferdinand.

    Capello has worked with Zebina too.

    Anyway, whats this got to do with this thread?

    Sorry, you think Ronaldo is one of the inform players currently in European Football?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Oh and the 'Ronaldo lacks technique' arguement is pure bull.

    Footballing brain, maybe, but the guy has fantastic technique, and his footballing brain IS improving.

    His crossing has also improved greatly as well
    Who said he lacks technique?

    I thought someone questioned it back at the start? If not then fair play
    He has good technique, not great technique like Scholes, Nani or Tevez.

    He has 'great' technique. Miles better than Tevez's anyway.

    Technique normally refers to the way that you strike a ball

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