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    John Terry dropped as England captain

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    Post by fcb Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:07 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:
    110% wrote:
    blutgraetsche wrote:Italy had a very decent qualification, a new coach with a positive philosophy and a number of exciting players. The injuries of Cassano and Rossi might have brung down the mood a bit, but generally speaking, there are a lot of reasons to be positive these days, it's looking much better for them than it did in WC 2010. The same more or less applies to France, too. That's two international heavyweights who clearly are on a upswing, it's not just about Spain and Germany.

    I agree with the first part of your post, it is of course more difficult to be cheerful when your team is doing badly. But what about those posts in the African Cup thread? You can't tell me that there are many on here who actually support (or even follow) one of those teams, yet half of the thread is nothing but moaning and bitching. I have no interest in those teams to be perfectly honest, even if I do enjoy African teams in the WC, so I don't watch the tournament. Simple as.

    Agree with what you say about the unnecessary bitching and moaning in the ACON thread, but there are a lot of bitches and moaners on the board.

    During tonight's liverpool-spurs game I predict several examples of bitching and moaning: caroll's uselessness (kimbo), dalglish's spending AND dodgy refereeing (puro), rednap's dodgyness (everyone), asian gloryhunting fans AND the shitness of the league (mes que un gloryhunter from his armchair in front of the tv), lucas's injury and how suarez didn't deserve his 8-match ban (luis), arsene wenger (rosicky)

    Don't forget the following additions for tonight: Bale being a one-trick facking runner (Fey/Kroos), references to Khazars/jews (Fey/Puro), Spurs being overrated in the media (Fwy/Fade out, if he's still alive), Newcastle being better than Spurs (Fey), VDV being a Fat Jew (Fey), the lack of technique in Premier League (Puro/Mes Que Worms), the media trying to sell this as the best league in the World, LOL (Mes Que Worms / Kroos), winning CA$$$$$$$$$$HHHHHHHHH (guess), Suarez isn't a racist, he's a victim (Luis/COTR), and general quirkily amusing leftfield observations which would be impossible to predict, ever (Glenn).

    Or no one will bother posting and it'll be dead. Which is far worse than any of the above Ale

    And even though it has nothing to do with Liverpool-Spurs I will also probably mention that MOURINHO CAN F*CK OFF BACK TO ENGLAND, David Silva >>>>>>> Mesut Ozil, Kaka is sh!t, and Pepe is a DISGRACE!!!!!


    Barcelona's squad is too small and we're going to draw 2-2 against Valencia on Wednesday. And Arsenal's physios are awful.
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    Post by Pras_tama Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:17 pm

    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.



    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better
    than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    Well put

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    Post by worms. Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:22 pm

    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.



    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:17 pm

    what the hell is Capello playing at? Surely he can't have any sympathy/loyalty towards Terry? Is he trying to get himself sacked before the Euros?
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    Post by 110% Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm

    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.



    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.

    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.
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    Post by worms. Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:30 pm

    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.



    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.



    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.

    Nope,Liverpool are my main team who are also my local team so your "logic" fails yet again.

    Plus I actually understand football unlike a lot of them tourists who just support the brand.

    Get over it mate,you seem pretty obsessed with me lately.
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    Post by S4P Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:27 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Is calling someone "black c**t" worse than beating up a DJ because he refused one of your requests (presumably Phil Collins as its a footballer) ?!

    You know he will give it to Stevie G.

    * Its good that we learn from our mistakes in England - Terry, Rio, Gerrard and Lampard will almost certainly go to Euro 2012 Doh and now we are calling for an 18yo with a handful of EPL appearances to be included Rolling Eyes

    When you go through the team and look at the potential options for captain, it doesn't look that promising.

    Johnson - Steals toilets from B&Q.
    Terry - Public urinator, womaniser, racist, drug-dealing father and shop-lifting mother.
    Rio - Drug lord. Enjoys making films with 50 Cent.
    Ashley Cole - Womaniser (cheated on the nation's sweetheart at the time), likes posting naked pictures of himself to women.

    Parker - Good choice, but few caps and doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
    Barry - John Terry dropped as England captain - Page 9 300px-QE2_leaving_southampton_water
    Lampard - Womaniser, slow, big boned. John Terry dropped as England captain - Page 9 South_park_cartman-1045
    Gerrard - Thug, injury prone.

    Rooney - Suspended for most of the group stages. Thug. Unlike JT, he's more likely to go after Capello's missus than one of the WAGs.

    Which basically leaves Joe Hart. I think goater would be happy with that.
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    Post by 110% Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:56 am

    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.

    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.



    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.

    Nope,Liverpool are my main team who are also my local team so your "logic" fails yet again.

    Plus I actually understand football unlike a lot of them tourists who just support the brand.

    Get over it mate,you seem pretty obsessed with me lately.

    I welcome your stupidity/hypocrisy on an otherwise quite period at work, and I enjoy taking the piss out of you. You seem to be the one getting upset as you want me to leave you alone.

    If you want logic, what you have in common with Asians, and EPL followers/supporters from around the world:
    - you both watch matches on tv
    - you both support successful teams
    - once in a while you travel abroad and go to a match
    - you have the same level of understanding of football, bitching and moaning about your team on a forum does not equate to better understanding of football (if you have some UEFA coaching badges etc I'd give you the benefit)
    - you both pay towards the EPL just by watching tv

    The differences between you:
    - they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL
    - they have no problem with other fans supporting any team
    - you live locally but cannot be arsed to go to the stadium, they would travel around the world to go to it.

    It is pretty clear that they are better fans than you.

    Why do you particularly pick on Asians though? Bad breakup?

    BTW Remember what you said for the African cup? If you don't like the EPL don't watch it. Simples Wink
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    Post by Pras_tama Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:23 am

    110% WPOTY (World Poster Of The Year) cheers cheers cheers

    I'm still offering you the free accomodation whenever you come to Bali mate Wink
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    Post by 110% Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:37 am

    Pras_tama wrote:110% WPOTY (World Poster Of The Year) cheers cheers cheers

    I'm still offering you the free accomodation whenever you come to Bali mate Wink

    Thanks but I've been to Bali twice already. Nice place but I rather go to new places than visit again, plus the 2nd time was after they introduced 600% tax on alcohol!!

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    Post by worms. Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:11 pm

    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.

    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.



    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.

    Nope,Liverpool are my main team who are also my local team so your "logic" fails yet again.

    Plus I actually understand football unlike a lot of them tourists who just support the brand.

    Get over it mate,you seem pretty obsessed with me lately.

    I welcome your stupidity/hypocrisy on an otherwise quite period at work, and I enjoy taking the piss out of you. You seem to be the one getting upset as you want me to leave you alone.

    If you want logic, what you have in common with Asians, and EPL followers/supporters from around the world:
    - you both watch matches on tv
    - you both support successful teams
    - once in a while you travel abroad and go to a match
    - you have the same level of understanding of football, bitching and moaning about your team on a forum does not equate to better understanding of football (if you have some UEFA coaching badges etc I'd give you the benefit)
    - you both pay towards the EPL just by watching tv

    The differences between you:
    - they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL
    - they have no problem with other fans supporting any team
    - you live locally but cannot be arsed to go to the stadium, they would travel around the world to go to it.

    It is pretty clear that they are better fans than you.

    Why do you particularly pick on Asians though? Bad breakup?

    BTW Remember what you said for the African cup? If you don't like the EPL don't watch it. Simples Wink

    Sleep Rolling Eyes

    You're the one who seems pretty upset bro,writing essays and that Laughing My post about glory hunters in this thread was clearly a joke...sorry if I offended you.

    And you're only taking the piss out of yourself as it looks like you don't know the difference between quite and quiet. Doh


    "you both support successful teams" I don't only support successful teams,also my main team is my local team .

    "you have the same level of understanding of football" Laugh The vast majority of them are sheep and just support the brand which is advertised the best over there and they don't have any knowledge of football history or have any tactical understanding of the game what so ever.

    "they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL" When did I say I hate myself? O wait I didn't.

    Calm down.


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    Post by Pras_tama Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:46 pm

    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.

    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.



    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.

    Nope,Liverpool are my main team who are also my local team so your "logic" fails yet again.

    Plus I actually understand football unlike a lot of them tourists who just support the brand.

    Get over it mate,you seem pretty obsessed with me lately.

    I welcome your stupidity/hypocrisy on an otherwise quite period at work, and I enjoy taking the piss out of you. You seem to be the one getting upset as you want me to leave you alone.

    If you want logic, what you have in common with Asians, and EPL followers/supporters from around the world:
    - you both watch matches on tv
    - you both support successful teams
    - once in a while you travel abroad and go to a match
    - you have the same level of understanding of football, bitching and moaning about your team on a forum does not equate to better understanding of football (if you have some UEFA coaching badges etc I'd give you the benefit)
    - you both pay towards the EPL just by watching tv

    The differences between you:
    - they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL
    - they have no problem with other fans supporting any team
    - you live locally but cannot be arsed to go to the stadium, they would travel around the world to go to it.

    It is pretty clear that they are better fans than you.

    Why do you particularly pick on Asians though? Bad breakup?

    BTW Remember what you said for the African cup? If you don't like the EPL don't watch it. Simples Wink

    Sleep Rolling Eyes

    You're the one who seems pretty upset bro,writing essays and that Laughing My post about glory hunters in this thread was clearly a joke...sorry if I offended you.

    And you're only taking the piss out of yourself as it looks like you don't know the difference between quite and quiet. Doh


    "you both support successful teams" I don't only support successful teams,also my main team is my local team .

    "you have the same level of understanding of football" Laugh The vast majority of them are sheep and just support the brand which is advertised the best over there and they don't have any knowledge of football history or have any tactical understanding of the game what so ever.

    "they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL" When did I say I hate myself? O wait I didn't.

    Calm down.



    You're the one who seems pretty upset bro,writing essays and that Laughing My post about glory hunters in this thread was clearly a joke...sorry if I offended you. Oh I see, as soon as someone has pawned you with great 'essay', it is all about joke Erm and why are you sorry for 110%? it was us, Asians, that you have to sorry for

    I don't only support successful teams,also my main team is my local team . Doh

    When did I say I hate myself? O wait I didn't.
    You're from England yet you refer EPL as Donkey PL Whistle see the logic, mate?

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    Post by worms. Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:14 pm

    Pras_tama wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Més que un club wrote:
    Metta World Peace wrote:Unless you pay for MUTV or buy Newcastles shirts, then you are not supporting them. It makes no difference to any if those clubs unless you go to their games or buy their merchandise. So you're a follower or fan, but not a real supporter. Real support benefits the club in some way- financially, or by you screaming abuse at opposition players on match day. Sitting in your armchair at home criticising the manager's tactics doesn't make you a supporter. True story for all, and free of charge Ale

    So lets get this straigt,these guys in this video are bigger supporters than me just because they buy more Merchandise than me? Even though I was born in Liverpool,have lived here all my life and all my family supports them?I rarely go the game though because it's hard to get tickets and it's a waste of money imo when you can just watch it on the T.V.I've probably been to about 10 - 15 Liverpool games in my life.

    If Carlsberg made fans.......

    RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL! RIVERPOOL!

    I think we had a long debate about supporters, fans etc a while ago on here. The issue isn't 100% clear because there is no accepted definition that fits all scenarios. Although the supporter/follower concept has its merits, if anyone paid for the SKY package you have all supported manu over the last 20 years since they got the most money out of it Wink.

    Anyway you seem to have a different problem, in that you have an issue with people in other countries watching football on tv because they cannot get to the stadium, yet you sit within travel distance of the stadium of one of the teams you claim to support and still watch the matches on TV. Not only that you then follow barca on tv and claim not to be a gloryhunter because you also like a few other smaller teams Doh

    The fact that you cannot see the hypocrisy is funny, and the only one with a problem is you. For some reason you think you are better than those in Asia because you live nearer one of the teams you claim to support? Most people have realised the game in global and don't really care where supporters/fans come from and a huge majority of fans now watch the games on tv or via the internet.

    BTW I once lived near Milan and became a season ticket holder at the San Siro as I liked going to the stadium on match days. Although I liked Milan I was never a big fan, and even went the alternate weekends when Inter were playing as their games were more exciting in those days. People on here such as Bluenine followed Serie A on tv, and knew far more than I ever did about what was going on in the league. He was a far bigger supporter/fan/follower than I ever was of Serie A, even though I lived near a stadium and he lived in another country. I would never consider myself better on the basis of geography as you seem to do.

    I think you're taking this far too seriously Laughing

    Anyway I am going to the Barca vs Valencia league game in 2 weeks time.



    So what, I bet some of those Chinese guys have been to Anfield, all you're doing is trying to be like them.

    Nope,Liverpool are my main team who are also my local team so your "logic" fails yet again.

    Plus I actually understand football unlike a lot of them tourists who just support the brand.

    Get over it mate,you seem pretty obsessed with me lately.

    I welcome your stupidity/hypocrisy on an otherwise quite period at work, and I enjoy taking the piss out of you. You seem to be the one getting upset as you want me to leave you alone.

    If you want logic, what you have in common with Asians, and EPL followers/supporters from around the world:
    - you both watch matches on tv
    - you both support successful teams
    - once in a while you travel abroad and go to a match
    - you have the same level of understanding of football, bitching and moaning about your team on a forum does not equate to better understanding of football (if you have some UEFA coaching badges etc I'd give you the benefit)
    - you both pay towards the EPL just by watching tv

    The differences between you:
    - they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL
    - they have no problem with other fans supporting any team
    - you live locally but cannot be arsed to go to the stadium, they would travel around the world to go to it.

    It is pretty clear that they are better fans than you.

    Why do you particularly pick on Asians though? Bad breakup?

    BTW Remember what you said for the African cup? If you don't like the EPL don't watch it. Simples Wink

    Sleep Rolling Eyes

    You're the one who seems pretty upset bro,writing essays and that Laughing My post about glory hunters in this thread was clearly a joke...sorry if I offended you.

    And you're only taking the piss out of yourself as it looks like you don't know the difference between quite and quiet. Doh


    "you both support successful teams" I don't only support successful teams,also my main team is my local team .

    "you have the same level of understanding of football" Laugh The vast majority of them are sheep and just support the brand which is advertised the best over there and they don't have any knowledge of football history or have any tactical understanding of the game what so ever.

    "they don't hate themselves for following a team in the EPL" When did I say I hate myself? O wait I didn't.

    Calm down.



    You're the one who seems pretty upset bro,writing essays and that Laughing My post about glory hunters in this thread was clearly a joke...sorry if I offended you. Oh I see, as soon as someone has pawned you with great 'essay', it is all about joke Erm and why are you sorry for 110%? it was us, Asians, that you have to sorry for

    I don't only support successful teams,also my main team is my local team . Doh

    When did I say I hate myself? O wait I didn't.
    You're from England yet you refer EPL as Donkey PL Whistle see the logic, mate?


    So I must hate myself because I think the Pl is overrated? Sorry I don't see the logic at all.

    If you look at the above posts I didn't actually comment on Asian fans at all before 110 percent replied to me.I just made a joke about it(The If carlsberg did fans one with the video)

    Also when I said "sorry if I offended you" that was said tongue in cheek because he seems to be taken this too seriously.This discussion is getting boring now but at least his emotional responses are keeping me slightly entertained.
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    Post by 110% Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:14 pm

    oooh I made a typo, I do know the difference between quite and quiet, I thought that would be obvious. You have several times not been able to tell the difference between their, there and they're, which is not a typo Wink.

    I would hate to see your essays, if my post is what you think an essay is. It is not that I wanted to write a lot, but you were wrong on so many points that I had to write a lot.

    I guess the video is not about asians and the joke with Riverpool was not about asians either Doh
    You have several times made the same comments about asians as a "joke", upsetting the likes of pras. Far from getting emotional I am calling you on it, and making you look stupid at the same time. It is win-win for me. Pleading for me to leave you alone, and now saying you are getting bored is basically admitting it.

    But tell me on what basis have you made your judgement about "the vast majority of them" not knowing anything about football history or tactics? Do you know the vast majority of them? Have you even been to Asia? Do you know even one of them? You sound like one of those internet warriors, like otto, puro etc who think they know everything, but whose opinions are based on what they read online because they have never actually been anywhere or done anything.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:25 pm

    This has got to be one of the most boring conversations going.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:32 pm

    The Easter Bunny wrote:This has got to be one of the most boring conversations going.
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    Post by debaser Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:35 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:
    The Easter Bunny wrote:This has got to be one of the most boring conversations going.
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    Post by worms. Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:32 pm

    Of course it was a typo ok

    This guy is hilarious when he's all angry and emotional.

    He thinks I'm scared of him and that's the reason I was "pleading" with him to stop talking to me.Na you're just boring me lol!


    "I guess the video is not about asians and the joke with Riverpool was not about asians either"

    Ye that was just a joke,don't cry.No need to write essays to me getting ya knickers in a twist lol.

    "I am calling you on it, and making you look stupid at the same time. It is win-win for me."

    NOOOOOOO! Please don't make me look stupid on the internet. Rolling Eyes Razz

    "But tell me on what basis have you made your judgement about "the vast majority of them" not knowing anything about football history or tactics? Do you know the vast majority of them? Have you even been to Asia? Do you know even one of them?

    Common knowledge.

    "You sound like one of those internet warriors"

    The amazing thing is I don't think he sees the irony here Laughing



    I will try not to make anymore jokes 110% because you obviously are a very sensitive being.

    Now calm down dear.
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    Post by Pras_tama Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:28 am

    A long long time ago, I said to this worms guy that this banter about 'gloryhunter shit' should be stopped, (IIRC please read the Calcio Mercato January 2012 thread) but this mothafucka just keep bitching about 'Asians gloryhunter know shit about football bla bla bla' while he keep referring his own football league as Donkey Football League

    Don't know with you guys but I smell racism + constant wind-up (on Asians and English football) so IMO this guy should be banned from this forum, if not forever, maybe for 8 weeks. How does that sound?
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    Post by worms. Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:42 am

    Pras_tama wrote:A long long time ago, I said to this worms guy that this banter about 'gloryhunter shit' should be stopped, (IIRC please read the Calcio Mercato January 2012 thread) but this mothafucka just keep bitching about 'Asians gloryhunter know shit about football bla bla bla' while he keep referring his own football league as Donkey Football League

    Don't know with you guys but I smell racism + constant wind-up (on Asians and English football) so IMO this guy should be banned from this forum, if not forever, maybe for 8 weeks. How does that sound?

    lol!

    What do you mean this banter should be stopped? You're not even a moderator,I don't care what you say.If I want to make a joke I will.

    I've only mentioned it once or twice,it only seems like I've said it more because you and that 110% guy keep crying about it.

    And I will refer to the PL as the DPL all I want.Stop trying to be the thought police around here.If anyone should be banned it's you because you don't even talk about football.

    CBA wasting my time arguing with you and 110 anymore anyway,so I won't be posting in this thread anymore.

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    Post by 110% Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:27 am

    Més que un club wrote:
    Pras_tama wrote:A long long time ago, I said to this worms guy that this banter about 'gloryhunter shit' should be stopped, (IIRC please read the Calcio Mercato January 2012 thread) but this mothafucka just keep bitching about 'Asians gloryhunter know shit about football bla bla bla' while he keep referring his own football league as Donkey Football League

    Don't know with you guys but I smell racism + constant wind-up (on Asians and English football) so IMO this guy should be banned from this forum, if not forever, maybe for 8 weeks. How does that sound?

    lol!

    What do you mean this banter should be stopped? You're not even a moderator,I don't care what you say.If I want to make a joke I will.

    I've only mentioned it once or twice,it only seems like I've said it more because you and that 110% guy keep crying about it.

    And I will refer to the PL as the DPL all I want.Stop trying to be the thought police around here.If anyone should be banned it's you because you don't even talk about football.

    CBA wasting my time arguing with you and 110 anymore anyway,so I won't be posting in this thread anymore.


    You can write what you want, as can we all. So if you write about gloryhunters, don't be surprised if you find out that you yourself are one.

    I have never been upset about anything written in these forums. You can call it the DPL as much as you want I have no problem with that, I was only further highlighting your own stupidity that elsewhere you say don't watch something you don't like Wink.

    I apologise to the rest for boring you and now back to the great JT. Lionheart is still willing to play for the country who is treating him so badly. But who should be captain? DJ beater Gerrard, World's best keeper Hart, or Scot "doesn't get the recognition he deserves" Parker?


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    Post by Jaime Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:00 am

    110% wrote:I apologise to the rest for boring you and now back to the great JT. Lionheart is still willing to play for the country who is treating him so badly. But who should be captain? DJ beater Gerrard, World's best keeper Hart, or Scot "doesn't get the recognition he deserves" Parker?


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    Post by Fey Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:39 pm

    Both Liverpool fans and Asians are utter cretins, I think we all agree on that!

    BUT at least Asians wont buy the SUN for sure! So one can argue who the better supporter is!
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:27 pm

    Not sure "world's best keeper Joe Hart" isn't needlessly sarcastic; England have an excellent opportunity to make a clean break and make the right long-term decision now rather than later. Not that there's any chance of that happening as long as they remain unwilling and/or unable to cut their losses with Capello (and admit he was a mistake in the first place).
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:36 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:Not sure "world's best keeper Joe Hart" isn't needlessly sarcastic; England have an excellent opportunity to make a clean break and make the right long-term decision now rather than later. Not that there's any chance of that happening as long as they remain unwilling and/or unable to cut their losses with Capello (and admit he was a mistake in the first place).

    Well, these days the reality is that as soon as an English player garners mainstream media attention, they become subject to a backlash, particularly on these boards. Even if they happen to be genuinely decent players (and individuals) like Hart or Scott "when will he get the credit he deserves" Parker. Phil Jones is another, and I imagine - very soon - Oxlade Chamberlain.

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    Post by Fade out Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:14 pm

    Hart won me over.. Ale But Parker, Phil Jones hype won't stand the test of time..
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    Post by 110% Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:50 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:Not sure "world's best keeper Joe Hart" isn't needlessly sarcastic; England have an excellent opportunity to make a clean break and make the right long-term decision now rather than later. Not that there's any chance of that happening as long as they remain unwilling and/or unable to cut their losses with Capello (and admit he was a mistake in the first place).

    All my labels were needlessly sarcastic.

    Scott Parker has been recognised time and again, more recently for being kicked in the stomach by Suarez and then booed by Liverpool fans. He is on the point of being recognised too much.

    Was Gerrard found not-guilty? I don't remember, in any case I don't hold it against him that he hit a Dick Jockey whose occupation is to press play on a CD player

    Joe Hart: maybe it is just me but keepers seem to be shitter these days than they used to be not that long ago, who/where is the equivalent of schmichael, buffon, kahn etc.
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    Post by debaser Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:44 pm

    Capello would be best to just say Parker for this tournament as he's first choice in the team at the min, uncontroversial and respected. Then whichever Tom, Dick or 'arry is Capello's successor will have chance to change captain if they like & go from there.

    The very last thing I'd do is give it to Hart - not because I don't like/rate him, I'm a big fan - but because he is our only option in goal. Do we really want to saddle him with a poisoned chalice like the captaincy ffs?!
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:52 pm

    Fade out wrote:Hart won me over.. Ale But Parker, Phil Jones hype won't stand the test of time..

    Brilliant Laughing

    Parker has been very good to excellent for a number of seasons now, whether at West Ham, Newcastle and now Spurs. What exactly classes as standing the test of time if not exactly that?

    Naturally, if he played for Newcastle and were French, he'd be considerably higher rated on here but less so perhaps in the media. This place loves a backlash against the mainstream.

    Phil Jones, who knows. But evidence so far is that he's young and raw but possesses the natural footballing qualities to excel as a ball playing centre half. Certainly no reason not to become as good as or better than a David Luiz or Fabricio Coloccini, the latter once more being considerably higher rated on here but less so perhaps on the mainstream media. This place loves a backlash against the mainstream

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